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How do I accept I’ll never be told why?

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CleanerhousekeeperPA · 15/01/2018 08:33

Together 11 years. Last time we were together we had some proper ‘from the belly’ laughs & we even joked about whether we’d still be like this in another 10 years time.

All was fine when I was at his place. As I
left, pulled me in for a kiss & hug & I told him I’d see him soon, all was good. No negative body language, nothing for me to pick up on.

A few days later I asked him on text if we could see each other before the next arranged date to which he replied yep. I asked him to send dates over along with (ahem Blush) 2 videos of himself that he owed me. He suggested that if I send pictures of my boobs (his favourite part of me) he would reciprocate.

He clearly had no intention of reciprocating. After 6 days of silence (spoke many times daily) I texted to him that I guess no answer is my answer.

His reply eventually basically was that I should fuck off Confused

I emailed that as he obviously despises me I would appreciate him deleting the pictures of me that he has on his phone. He ignored so a week later I forwarded on the same message- also ignored.

He also owes me some money, I gave him my details twice so he could BACS it to me. Hasn’t been done.

How could I have died with no explanation? Really struggling with him not confirming that he’d rather dump me after 11 years with no emotion than admit he won’t return the gesture of his own damn idea. Angry

He has blocked me on Whatsapp since telling me to go away as well.

How do I NOT take this personally?

It has become all-consuming & my head is spinning with the last time I saw him with nothing but fun.

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MissTeBe · 15/01/2018 19:04

That isn’t what most people would describe as a relationship

Your poor friend

cloudchaos · 15/01/2018 19:07

Sounds like the wife has got hold of the phone and was replying on his behalf.

waterrat · 15/01/2018 22:17

11 years is marriage type length of relationship. If I was your friend I would a) get round to his house pronto and try to get a face to face chat. There is no shame in wanting closure after 11 years! B) start having some serious therapy to talk about how I ignored the red flags for 11 years and what it said about my self esteem

Your friend must not feel ashamed about wanting answers
The fact that she so quickly assumed it was over and his wierd behaviour really makes it sound like a dysfunctional set up that she allowed to fester for too long

Gotthetshirt23 · 16/01/2018 00:33

I had a relationship end in similar circs .
I met ex online - after 19/20 months he went on our holiday with another woman (he had paid me for my Half of the holiday which was Christmas and NY) typical biggest mistake he's ever made etc .
A week or so after his return I found out about his friend - he often spoke about her and her (imaginary ) partner . He had been with "the friend " about 10 years - through the last years of his marriage and all relationships since including mine .
The "friend " and I did message - she in 10 years had never met his parents / holidayed with him / met his friends / been to his (our ) house .
He was a very clever mind game player .
I managed to track down one other . I'm sure there were more . Wish I'd had MN then ......

Mxyzptlk · 16/01/2018 00:54

I suspect he had a mate whose house he borrowed occasionally.

Or he's taken the gf round in between relationships.

PancakeInMaBelly · 16/01/2018 01:02

I think your friend knows that she is the OW she just really doesn't want to think of it that way. But she knows. She is trying to convince you/herself that if she's never BLATENTLY been told about the wife or seen physical evidence of her, then surely she's not doing anything wrong? Right?

PancakeInMaBelly · 16/01/2018 01:20

Listen if she even thought there might be a CHANCE that she's NOT the OW she would go round there and find out for sure.

She is staying away because she knows exactly what she would find if she goes there unarranged.

Vernazza · 16/01/2018 03:25

Eleven years. Eleven Christmases, 11 New Year's Eves, 11 birthdays . . .

I'd say she was definitely the OW and hasn't told you because she knows how you'd feel about it.

Advice to her: and I say this with absolute kindness: it's probably time to get a real life with an available non-plonker.

The one she has lost sounds hideous.

OnionKnight · 16/01/2018 06:47

If this is true then it's obvious that she was the OW, unless she's as thick as two planks she is aware and she's lying to you because she knows how you feel about affairs.

I can't get over going to his house 8 or 9 times and you thinking that wasn't a red flag.

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BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 16/01/2018 08:07

After 11 years, I'd expect to have met most of his friends and family multiple times and vice versa. Plus know where he works

CleanerhousekeeperPA · 16/01/2018 10:08

She’s in hospital. Self-harm. She really is hurting physically now as well as emotionally. I am finding this hard, wasn’t expecting any of this.

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whiskyowl · 16/01/2018 10:17

I agree.

I've seen this happen to friends who have affairs. The amount of suffering involves on all sides is horrific. It's such a dysfunctional thing to do, almost a form of slow motion self harm. I'm therefore not totally surprised your friend is really suffering. I hope she and all those others who are hurting as a result of this situation find peace and security soon.

Sullabylullaby · 16/01/2018 11:51

Poor girl. A broken heart is a very painful thing. I hope she receives some support now and come to terms with it

Worrynot1 · 16/01/2018 12:01

I had this after 3 years, some people are cowards and won't confront.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 16/01/2018 12:40

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CleanerhousekeeperPA · 16/01/2018 12:56

I have asked MNHQ to remove my previous post.
She doesn’t have that name, Faith. That means this is happening elsewhere to someone else too.

It’s been a weird week.

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Angelf1sh · 16/01/2018 12:59

I hope your friend is ok op. Hopefully the hospital will be able to give her some much needed support.

Emmageddon · 16/01/2018 13:38

Poor woman, what a horrible time for her. Hopefully she will get support from healthcare professionals to deal with what has happened. As her friend, just be there for her. Be a shoulder to cry on and don't judge her for being the other woman.

Mxyzptlk · 16/01/2018 22:18

Could you introduce the idea of the guy having a wife or girlfriend that your friend didn't know about?
If she was an OW, and knew it, she might feel pressured to keep it secret because you, and others, would disapprove. And that would make her feel very alone with her distress.

CleanerhousekeeperPA · 16/01/2018 22:29

Thankyou. I am having to think long & hard about this and feel like I’m damned with whatever I do/don’t do.

I don’t want to push her away, yet I know she needs closure from him which I cannot offer.

It’s going to be a long ride.

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Teabay · 16/01/2018 22:37

Has he just been released after serving his 11 year sentence?

Maybe she visited him on his parole days...

Lifechallenges · 16/01/2018 23:35

I think whiskeyowl is spot on. Victim had issues and has been taken for a ride