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I have to leave don’t I?

111 replies

brokeninmoreways · 07/12/2017 20:58

My husband. Tonight, kicked me three times and called me names.

I have bruises and a gash,

It’s two hours later and he hasn’t apologised. I locked myself in another room but he made a point of using it.

I’m broken. He is normally nice but this was a kickboxing attack over portion control on oven control. I’ve lost sense of what is reasonable but I’m fairly sure he isn’t the person to tell me what is.

Did I cause this? Criticising him for putting out 6 fish fingers, and 13 chicken dippers and two waffles for one person? Even if I did, and was being unreasonable, should I get kicked?

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Bettydownthehall · 07/12/2017 22:17

That 95% of the time you hold it together is because you are walking on eggshells, scared of being attacked.

He is only nice when you behave and play by his rules. That is no life.

Applesandpears23 · 07/12/2017 22:20

Not normal at all. Please don't put up with this. If you said something about his good it would be reasonable for him to tell you to mind your own business. Kicking you is completely unreasonable.

ChunkyPunky · 07/12/2017 22:20

Please call the police and protect you and your boy.

callkiki · 07/12/2017 22:21

You don't have to leave your home, you have been assaulted. Call the police, go to the hospital & document any injuries. If you have no money, go to the Citizens Advice or Legal Aid. You can apply for a court order of protection and non molestation and occupation order.

You can get an emergency hearing and he won't be notified until after that first hearing but another will be scheduled to determine if he wants to get a solicitor or try and prove he didn't do it.

Mine admitted he did it but said it was only a broken wrist and a couple broken teeth....so instead of the 6 months protection my Legal Aid was asking for I got 12 months.

There is all kinds of help out there and I wasn't on the title to our property but as we were married I was able to register my home rights so he could not sell, rent, re-mortgage or do anything with the home.

Also, your rights to your home and assets are protective if you leave the home due to domestic violence.

I went to a friends the night it happened, we called the police who were wonderful and well trained in domestic abuse and the journey to living violence free started. I left the first time but found out after I left that he had battered and abused his first wife and children.

You can get a friend or family member to take photos tonight, call them now, tell them you need a place to stay and help. If you don't want to leave now, see if you can get someone to come to you. Again, the police will come anytime day or night.

AboutAGallonofDietCoke · 07/12/2017 22:25

Call the police they will arrest him; you and your son can then get out of the house!

expatinscotland · 07/12/2017 22:26

Call the police. He needs removed.

Jux · 07/12/2017 22:26

Please call the police. Please get your injuries seen to by them, please protect your child by having the crime logged by the police.

At some point your child will be alone with this monster, without you to protect him. You need everyone to know what the shitbastard is like, including officialdom.

Call the police. If not tonight then tomorrow. Asap.

becotide · 07/12/2017 22:27

I made the call with my child in my arms, and my back against my kitchen door with my feet braced against the washing machine. Is there somewhere in your house that you can do that?

callkiki · 07/12/2017 22:30

I wanted to add that I know it's scary and you worry about the future but it's more important to be safe than anything else.

When I said occupation order, he owned the house before I ever met him and was shocked when the courts initially removed him temporarily until the hearing where he got a chance to defend his actions. It was an even bigger shock when he was given 3 hours supervised to pack up his life and move out. He was not only not allowed in the house but not on the estate or to contact anyone on the estate or make any contact with me directly or by 3rd parties.

Not talking to or seeing him will give you time to think clearly if this is the life you want for yourself and your son.

Bumbelinadance · 07/12/2017 22:32

Please from my heart I beg you to call the police
They are trained in de- escalating and he will be removed to protect your Ds . They will advise you and protect you .
My own experience is they were great .

I understand how it feels to " want it to go away " but it won't .
It gets worse and worse.

If your sister or a girlfriend rang you now and told you this had happened what would you tell them to do ? You would want them out of danger immediately .
No matter what the argument , stress he may be under his behaviour is inexcusable .... this is a serious assault .

Please let us know how you are .
Please don't wait for it to happen again to find the strength .
Can a friend or family member be called also ? I would drop everything for my daughter or sister or friend in the situation .. 11pm or 11am .

Thinking of you .

shakingmyhead1 · 07/12/2017 22:37

Call the police right now, they will come and remove him from the house, and most likely arrange a temporary protection order for you until you can make arrangements for a permanent one!

lololove · 07/12/2017 22:45

He may wake up angry - or you may 'do something wrong' in the morning (his opinion - not mine) or you may talk yourself out of rocking the boat by the morning.

You and your son are the most important part in all of this and you need to by safe my darling. The police will help you do that! Good luck!

BertieBotts · 07/12/2017 22:57

Hi OP. So sorry it has come to this, hope you are OK as can be.

If you feel able to, as others have said the best course of action currently would be to phone the police and report this violent assault. It doesn't matter that he's now asleep or how many hours ago it happened.

If you do not feel able to contact the police tonight, which is totally understandable, I will warn you that you're likely to go through the following process.

In the morning you will wake up and for a blissful moment you won't remember. When you remember it will hit you like a gut punch of fear. But this feeling will fade. You'll get up and start to go about your day feeling heavy, this weight of what must be done playing on your mind - and the day will pass. You will notice that in the morning he will act normal, perhaps even nicer than he usually does, and you will start to feel unsure. You'll be going through the daily routine with your son, and everything will begin to seem unsettlingly normal. If you notice small reminders of the events of last night around the house, they will jolt you for a moment and then it will be back to the everyday. Life continues, the world didn't stop. You will begin to ask questions in your mind - do I really need to make any call today, why not just give it some more time. It's never happened before (or it's never happened like this before). Maybe I caused it. Maybe he's ill. Maybe it wasn't as bad as I remember. Maybe, maybe...

You wish you could go back to normality, wish it had never happened. And now it's the day after and everything still is so normal in many ways and so maybe... maybe you wish it so hard that you simply convince yourself that it didn't really count. Or that it was a one off. As long as you don't bring it up, he usually won't either, but he'll be playing the part, best behaviour, the version of him you wish he would always be. It's cruel, really. The relationship and normal life you wish you had is being dangled in front of you and it is so, so hard to resist that bait when it is everything you have wanted.

By the time the bruises and pain have faded away you convince yourself that nothing happened, just an argument, and everything is ordinary. However these events are rarely one offs and the day to day abuse and control will come back into play over time. Often worse, because he knows he can push you that far and you won't leave.

Months down the line you'll know the real truth, but it will seem impossible to react to so late on. You'll feel as though nobody will believe you about something which happened months ago. You'll feel as though you can't bring it up as a reason or justification for leaving, because if it was that important, you would have left at the time. Your memory of the event might be shaky and you will struggle to recall details, which makes you self doubt. You'll feel simultaneously guilty for not leaving and angry because you feel you have missed your chance. Perhaps you'll promise yourself next time, you will act. (I would say never wait for the next time.)

None of this means you are weak. It is an entirely natural and normal human reaction, and one which is incredibly difficult to fight.

If you would like to give yourself the best chance at acting on this now, do any or all of the following.

  • Tell somebody. Tell a friend or somebody you trust. Tonight or tomorrow or at any time. Silence makes it easier to disappear.
  • Record how you feel right now somehow - writing this post was a brilliant start. Whether on here, or somewhere private, write down a description of exactly how you feel, how this incident has made you feel and what you believe it means right now.
  • Record your injuries - take photographs if there are any marks. You don't have to use the photos for anything but you might want them later.
  • Record the events exactly as you can remember them while they are fresh. Again, on the post is OK or somewhere private.
  • Look up what practical steps to take next so that you know what to do and do not feel paralysed or blindsided by normal life happening around you. Remain in crisis mode - this is a crisis!
  • Get angry. Get really really angry, and ride that wave. This is a justified situation for anger. (Don't hurt anybody).
  • Keep reminding yourself this is NOT normal, this is fucked up.
  • Tell somebody else. Tell as many people as you can stomach.

If you do nothing else, start reading about abuser cycles, controlling behaviour, emotional abuse, red flags, and observe. Lurk on emotional abuse support threads or go and read through old ones.

I so wish you the strength to deal with this swiftly but if not - don't give up. All is not lost. You are allowed to react at any time. It will be easiest now but you will still need to force yourself. Good luck. x

JaneEyre70 · 07/12/2017 22:57

If nothing else, OP, please get your injuries checked. You may have internal bleeding.

Bumbelinadance · 07/12/2017 23:05

Bertibotts
That's a great post

We aren't judging you for staying if you do op
I did for years
We just don't want you to 🌺

LemonMousse · 07/12/2017 23:06

Bertie so much sense and reality in that post - please OP read this one and take it in x

KarmaStar · 07/12/2017 23:07

OP,
Bless your heart,you are definitely not to blame.
This is domestic abuse.
Call the police,get him arrested,make sure he is given bail conditions(if he gets bail that is and should automatically include no contact directly or indirectly ,no going to home)that include the children's school (if you have children).
Not only has he physically attacked you but he has been emotionally abusing you.
The problem is with him.
Your local women's aid will help .
Take action now to stop this.
And please,please,do not listen to him ever again.
He will try apologizing,begging,crying,all sorts of emotional blackmail just to get you back under his control.
I know it is hard.all sorts of problems arise but with the support of the police,the women's aid,your family and friends and mumsnet,you are not alone.
Be strong.make your first steps towards freedom.
You are welcome to pm me anytime.I know exactly what you are going through.
It will get better.
Please make that call right now.
Hugs 💜💜💜🌼🌼

ilovepixie · 07/12/2017 23:11

Think of your child. Do you really want him to grow up in that atmosphere. Being scared all the time, wondering if the next time daddy hits mummy will it kill her? Do you want him growing up believing it's normal to hit people. Leave him now, if not for you then for your child.

BifsWif · 07/12/2017 23:12

Sweetheart this is not your fault. You are not to blame.

It’s frightening reading all of this advice, I know. It can be overwhelming but just take it one step at a time. The first step needs to be calling the police. They will help you I promise.

allthesnowmen · 07/12/2017 23:37

Are you ok OP?

Oxcheeks · 08/12/2017 00:37

,KarmaStar your post says it all. OP please call the police and have your husband arrested, you don't need this shit, the police domestic abuse department will help you and you will not have to leave your home, look after yourself and you son, sending you big (((hugs))) xxx

ApplesTheHare · 08/12/2017 09:40

Morning OP, how's it going today? How are you feeling?

PasDeDeux · 08/12/2017 10:43

Thinking of you OP; I really hope that you and your son are safe.

showmewhatyougot · 08/12/2017 12:45

Hope your safe OP Thanks

brokeninmoreways · 03/01/2018 23:10

I’m the op

Thank you everyone for your responses. You don’t know what it means and hopefully will continue to mean but thank you for you support

I know it will seem weird doing after so long but I have read and re read this thread

Hq -don’t get how to contact you but can you move it somewhere I will always have access to?

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