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Are mil and dh being unfair?

90 replies

Blinkingblimey · 29/10/2017 11:54

Just back from a half term holiday in the U.K. on which we took elderly mil with us. To be fair it was a bit of a disaster - not great weather, dh worked almost the entire time which meant I was doing my day job of sorting young kids, getting them out & about and full housekeeper & cook etc (& I made an effort to make really good meals) so it wasn't exactly an all inclusive break! However, we very very rarely go away and I was happy to be somewhere different. Mil is on the frail side so on the whole stayed at home when I took the dc out - though did take on one big day trip & out for a few meals etc. Kids spent some time doing crafty stuff & chatting with her. Once I'd finished cooking, clearing in the evenings I was generally knackered so prob not great company. So, to the point....Dh has returned from dropping mil home and has had a proper go about how unwelcome I made her feel, how little effort I made, how unpleasant I was...I've now ruined Christmas because she doesn't want to come.... if I was that bad (which I don't think I was!) surely he or she might've said something WHILST we were away?! I've offered to call and apologise in order to keep the peace (I always capitulate for the sake of calmer waters) but apparently this isn't good enough. FFS😞...hand hold please.

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codswallopandbalderdash · 29/10/2017 14:26

OH FFS - if it is any consolation I expect I will be accused of this too when MiL arrives next month for her visit. DH is busy with stuff the weekend she is here and I will be expected to listen to all the chat (which I am really not good at). Oh well

TheweewitchRoz · 29/10/2017 14:27

He’s a dick - how have you not told him to fuck off already?

NataliaOsipova · 29/10/2017 14:28

To make it easier on everyone, you won't make them undergo a painfully inadequate Christmas with you in charge

Fizzy has it. Spot on.

diddl · 29/10/2017 14:29

"how unwelcome I made her feel, how little effort I made, how unpleasant I was."

Even if that were true-her son & GC were there too-so why would it all be up to you, Op?

".I've now ruined Christmas because she doesn't want to come..."

What-his Christmas will be ruined without Mummy there?

Tell him to piss off to her then!

Pumpkintopf · 29/10/2017 14:32

*Tell him that's fine. All noted.

You're sorry that you are so incapable.

To make it easier on everyone, you won't make them undergo a painfully inadequate Christmas with you in charge.*

This. Suggest he goes to hers and you have Christmas at home with the kids. As it doesn’t sound like he helps at all with them anyway. What an absolute waste of space your husband sounds.

GreenTulips · 29/10/2017 14:33

Seriously he's taking the piss

Tell him if she doesn't want to come for Christmas tats her choice but as you did all the looking after meals food kids entertainment and didn't actually get a break then next time it's his turn and see how much 'conversation' he has left

sizenines · 29/10/2017 14:34

It's MIL's tendency to bitch about you behind you back to DH and getting him to have a go at you with her gripes that would get my goat. If she wanted to be entertained and waited on hand and foot she should have gone to a hotel. Benidorm, perhaps.

She doesn't want to come for Christmas? A result, surely! [grin}

AnneLovesGilbert · 29/10/2017 14:36

I'm livid for you. But this isn't just about the holiday is it? He's a sexist bully who expects you to do everything for everyone while he ducks out of being a husband, father or son then dares to criticise you. What a douche bag. Giving you the silent treatment?! What is he, 15?

You deserve so much more. And you don't want your children growing up thinking this is normal or fair.

But you know what he's like. What can you do to change the dynamic?

Please start standing up for yourself. If your husband doesn't like it that's his problem.

Aeroflotgirl · 29/10/2017 14:38

What an arse, why diden't he take time off to be with her! I would have reminded him of what exactly you were doing and that next time, he is to take time off and entertain her! Silly sod.

thecatsthecats · 29/10/2017 14:39

I agree that the mother's of men who don't bother to keep in touch with them seem to be redirecting anger and hurt onto the wife instead. That way they don't have to admit that their sons either don't care or are feckless anyway.

Aeroflotgirl · 29/10/2017 14:39

Be assertive and put your foot down, you don't deserve to be treated in such and appealling way. Nasty shite he is.

Aeroflotgirl · 29/10/2017 14:41

I would tell him to feck off and have Christmas with her, and you will stay at home with the kids and have a jolly good time. What an arse.

LiveLifeWithPassion · 29/10/2017 14:41

How dare he talk to you like that after all the hard work and effort you put in? I would be livid and tell him so.
It doesn’t matter if you or him win the argument, he needs to be reminded that you put every effort you could whilst he didn’t.
I agree, you need to start standing up for yourself.

RhiannonOHara · 29/10/2017 14:41

He's being a cunt, OP. You don't have to stand for it. I'd tell my DP where to go if he did this; but then again he never would, because he's not an arsehole.

I'd bugger off for a few days and leave him to look after the kids and house. See how he gets on with making conversation with his mother.

As for you having ruined Christmas because she doesn't want to come, the obvious answer is 'Splendid! I assume you'll be taking the kids to hers instead then? I'll get myself some new pyjamas and line up that new Netflix series.'

NataliaOsipova · 29/10/2017 14:41

She doesn't want to come for Christmas? A result, surely! [grin}

Would be in my house..... Grin

You know what, OP? Your other option - especially if you’re always the one who capitulates - is to go, if I may put it so bluntly, fucking apeshit with the pair of them. How dare they sit André bitch about you behind your back when you’ve spent your holiday cooking and cleaning for them? How can they be so rude and ungrateful- makes you feel like a skivvy. If they think you plan to spend your Christmas on a repeat performance only to be slagged off, then they have another thing coming. And so on and so on.....until you get the apology you deserve.

NataliaOsipova · 29/10/2017 14:42

André bitch? WTF? And bitch. And!

MrsBertBibby · 29/10/2017 14:42

Tell him next time he can hire a nanny, a chef and a maid, and then you'll sit and make gracious conversation with his mum for him.

NataliaOsipova · 29/10/2017 14:43

Tell him next time he can hire a nanny, a chef and a maid, and then you'll sit and make gracious conversation with his mum for him.

Definitely add this to your rant too!

ElephantsandTigers · 29/10/2017 14:44

I don't think for one minute your MIL said any of this. For whatever reason your H is pissed off with you so he needs to squash you back down again.

idea888 · 29/10/2017 14:47

Don't apologise, because why should you? You worked hard, your DH didn't help, so why are you supposed to feel bad that the holiday didn't go well? If you want to be diplomatic maybe send MIL a polite card/note along the lines of "sorry to hear you didn't enjoy the holiday. I found it hard work managing the cooking, housekeeping and entertaining the children especially with the bad weather, so apologies if you felt ignored. I had hoped that you and dh would enjoy the chance to spend time together and with the children, so am sorry it didn't work out as planned..."

Maybe (hopefully) she will have noticed the effort you put in and might be embarrassed to think that DH has complained on her behalf. Maybe he felt bad about spoiling the holiday by working and is trying to pin the blame on you? Or what Purplepip says.

Or maybe one or both of them is just being ungrateful and unkind - in which case it's probably just as well if your MIL doesn't come for Christmas.

AcrossthePond55 · 29/10/2017 14:49

Ask him exactly HOW you did this? And what you should have been doing. I mean it. Tell him to give you verbatim examples. I expect he can't, it's just vague 'mumbles' about 'not being welcome'.

If he can do it, I bet it'll turn out that she expected you (and DC) to sit with her the entire time rather than going out, that you should have neglected the 'domestic side' to bring her cups of tea and listen to her natter, and that you didn't listen to obey her suggestions commands regarding what to serve for meals and/or where to go (or not go).

Is this a one-off or a continuing saga of 'unwelcomeness'.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 29/10/2017 14:49

Don't take his word for it that she said anything like that. Talk to her yourself. If he's 'never wrong' about anything then she may have said something like it was a pity that he was so busy and she feels like she didn't see him and he is subverting his own guilt into anger towards you.

ivykaty44 · 29/10/2017 14:52

resignation is the way forward and look for a better paid hostess job

Didiusfalco · 29/10/2017 14:53

Op, you should be furious with him for not appreciating all the effort you made - not apologising!

mikeyssister · 29/10/2017 14:53

At least if he's giving you the silent treatment you're not having to listen to him!!