DW won't allow me to take DS fishing as she says it's animal cruelty.

[MichaelJamesP]

DS knows about fishing, etc. and asked if we could go. I fished when I was his age.

DW has said absolutely not. Saying she doesn’t want to encourage him to injure animals.

Surely fish don’t feel pain?

It’s ridiculous, surely? Would you just take him when she is at work?

Act it's fine, I'm just stuck at home waiting for the plumber so not exactly invested. You think the poster is a she?

You think the poster is a she?

I never crossed my mind that she was anything else to be honest.

I was thinking they were a wee boy messing about.

Fish DO feel pain.

I agree with your wife. Tormenting any animal and calling it 'sport' is just grim.

Give a man a fish... Teach a man to fish....

I actually don't have a problem with fishing for food, although I do have a problem with the fish not being very rapidly dispatched and left to gasp in agony.
But honestly, to haul the poor thing out of the water with a hook in it's mouth as an entertainment form before tossing the maimed, shocked and suffocated creature back to probably die?

If that's your thing, perhaps your boy would enjoy some nice cock fighting or badger baiting as well.

If you're going to cook the fish then fine, but if you're just doing it for sport then no I don't agree with it.

Genuinely confused as to why what you do to fish matters, why is it okay to hurt for food and not for sport? Neither are necessary. It's not like it makes a difference either way to the fish, like they mind or suffer less ending up as food.

They don't suffer less but at least there's a reason. If you're just hooking a fish and then throwing it back into the water for a laugh then that's cruel.

I really don't get how fishing is a life skill either?. But maybe that's because I'm a woman.

not some plank on the internet
Oh twatty can't you get your point across without hurling insults around?
Yes, I 100% know that all animals feel pain, and you are the one sounding arrogant by believing that human beings have the monopoly on feeling pain. Scientists do not, shock horror, know everything despite what you may think.

But sport is a reason too. Walking by a pond and scooping a fish out and stamping on it is a 'reason' if it provides some kind of benefit to the psycho doing it. They're all reasons. What makes eating the fish a more valid reason than harming it the exact same amount for entertainment?

Scientists do not, shock horror, know everything despite what you may think

Newsflash for you: scientists who are experts in animals and pain do actually know more about it than you do. Fact.
You "100% know" nothing.

the arrogance of people on here is shocking, You've got the feels for fish so you think you know better? welcome to the endarkenment, where expertise, qualifications and experience are worthless, because some internet randomer thinks they know better.
We're all fucking doomed.

welcome to the endarkenment, where expertise, qualifications and experience are worthless, because some internet randomer thinks they know better.

Oh the irony!

Surprised you can spell irony.

Why?

you couldn't spell IS earlier. Or term, I think was the other word you groped for.
Then there's the fish/babies mix up you have going on....

Oh yes because we all proof text written on a social media board don't we?

Heaven forbid anyone makes a typo! Oh my god, the sky will fall in! Lawyers will get involved. The world will end!

Do grow up - or have you not been on here long enough to know that it's bad form jump on typos? Hmmmmm?

Must be so hard to be do all-knowing and have perfect typing. The rest if us can only bow to your superiority.

And I do appreciate that there was a typo there.

I disregard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "FACT!" at the end of a paragraph.
It's invariably drivel.

Some of my best memories ever are fishing with my dad. The OP is robbing her son of something special.

The OP is the dad who wants to take the child fishing. The mum doesn't want him to and he isn't sure if he should go behind the mums back, which won't end well - kids and secrets!

You can't really compromise on something like this, and I'm sure there are loads of other things they can do together. It's not 'robbing' anyone really.

I'm glad you have nice memories of something special with your dad but it's not for everyone.

I'm sure they can make many more memories. My DH has never took ds fishing and they have lovely memories together. If you want to do something that's a life skill op why not go camping, teach him how to cook his own food, put up a tent, make. a fire etc?

Some of my best memories ever are fishing with my dad.
And that's nice but good memories could just as easily have been made bird watching, hiking, geocaching, camping etc without the need for distressing living creatures.
Op you need to respect your dw's wishes, even if you don't agree with them, and find some other hobby to do your father/son bonding.

Surprised you can spell irony
You're being very rude today twat, are you alright?