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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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TimbuktuTimbuktu · 27/10/2017 19:36

Nah Mariah is actually queen of the witches. The singing is just a front to lure people to evil.

LadyWithLapdog · 27/10/2017 20:04

OldPony 😂 and good luck tonight. A friend found two of his wives on GS. I mean one after the other, not that they were also lurking on GS.

badbadhusky · 27/10/2017 20:20

Two of his wives? How many has he had, Lady?

LadyWithLapdog · 27/10/2017 21:21

That was cack-handed. I meant both his first and second (current) wife Grin

MortalEnemy · 27/10/2017 23:47

Hope you are ok with the dentist disappointment, Old, and that GS turned up trumps, otherwise I will feel bad about laughing so much at the pentangles and cardboard Mariah Carey.

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badbadhusky · 28/10/2017 01:07

I’m loving Mortal and Pony’s thread-within-a-thread peer support for catching (and releasing) unobtainable men.

I am now going to bed having binge watched Wanted on Netflix. Highly recommended, 2 really great Aussie series about 2 women (initially strangers at a bus stop) on the run together, which takes in the Outback and beyond (I cannot say more without spoilers but v v scenic as well as gripping). So fantastic to have a tv series with 2 strong, nuanced female characters leading.

UkuleleRose · 28/10/2017 03:58

I can't wait the weekend to know what happens next!

OldPony · 28/10/2017 10:35

Can I just say guys, the only thing helping with my heartbreak and loneliness is that we're all laughing so much on this thread!

Anyway, date wasn't great. It started off well but after we had a couple of drinks he moaned about his ex and her nagging him over lack of money. I immediately thought cocklodger alert!
Went home, had a cheese sandwich and went to bed.

Thanks so much for the Wanted recommendation. I desperately need something to watch and I'm fed up with Strictly. It's just not working for me this year.

badbadhusky · 28/10/2017 11:06

Do watch Wanted - it had a Thelma & Louise vibe which I really enjoyed.

MortalEnemy · 28/10/2017 11:54

Oh, I'm sorry, Pony, genuinely. About the dentist and the whiny dud date. If it's the slightest consolation and I suspect it's not I have my very low moments about RumpledColleague too, when it looks to me like I'm deluding myself about someone who isn't interested or isn't capable of the emotional risk of forming an attachment.

And my office move to a distant floor is definitely now happening soon, and will, I suppose reveal whether this is purely an accidental proximity thing for him. I've been burnt that way before by a couple of people I believed were close friends who, when something meant we were no longer in immediate proximity on a daily basis, simply never got in touch again, or responded to my efforts to contact them -- and it's given me Abandonment Issues. Sad

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badbadhusky · 28/10/2017 12:06

(((Gentle hugs for Pony & Mortal)))

OldPony · 28/10/2017 15:32

Oh darling, you're not alone. I have similar issues too so let's just remember that we have each other! And all our friends on this thread.

You have all been wonderful.

OldPony · 28/10/2017 16:25

Right! In effort to cheer up the thread, I shall raise another situation:

A while ago I had several phone chats with a lovely man I met on guardian soulmates. Apparently he is an actor (his photos verify this) and lives in London which is a couple of hours away from me and has 2 teenage children.

We got on very well on the phone and laughed a lot. We arranged to meet, but at the last minute I cancelled, saying that I have a history of falling for inappropriate men who ultimately can't give me the relationship that I need (basically a life partner) and that understandably his foreseeable future will be living in London and bringing up his children.

He was very gallant in his response but said if I changed my mind he'd love to meet.

Anyway, we have exchanged a few texts about our disastrous dates and he seems genuinely lovely. So, should I throw caution to the wind and meet him? Or should I follow my instincts and hold out for someone local?

I shall go with the majority vote!

NurseButtercup · 28/10/2017 16:41

De-lurking to say two things.

Reading this thread has taught me that maybe I need to be patient. I have a situation that has been quietly simmering for approx 5months. I'll come back and share details another time.

@oldpony yes vote here! I think you should agree to meet the actor, but go with the expectation of having a fun night out in good company x

OldPony · 28/10/2017 16:47

Thanks Buttercup. Do share!

eddielizzard · 28/10/2017 17:56

mortal: he might actually be waiting for you to move so that he can make his move. there is no way i'd be asking someone out i see every day. way too risky. so the move may work in your favour.

pony: go on the date with no expectations. give it a chance.

LadyWithLapdog · 28/10/2017 18:46

OldPony, a yes from me too.

TJ2503 · 28/10/2017 19:58

OldPony - it’s a yes from me

CraftyYankee · 28/10/2017 20:25

OldPony yes, as long as you give us an update afterwards.

Mortal, I'm looking forward to hearing the excuses he comes up with to wander by your office. "Oh really, this isn't where the green boardroom is? Grin

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 28/10/2017 20:26

OldPony Do it!

ferriswheel · 28/10/2017 20:46

This thread is amazing. A much needed boost for a 41 year old single Mum with three very young children.

Pony, I vote yes. Definitely yes. I can't think why you wouldn't say yes after the dentist story.

Op, I think you are being amazingly patient and that that's what's going to win you the long game. I'm so excited for your Christmas trip away.

OldPony · 28/10/2017 21:38

Husky and co. I have just watched the first episode of Wanted and I am enthralled! Thank you so much. I'm about to watch another.

I shall text the actor and agree to a date. Apparently he had a scene in Titanic but it was cut hahaha!

badbadhusky · 28/10/2017 21:42

Keep going Pony. Both seasons are only 6 eps. It’s so good - the relationships definitely develop and there is something inherently likeable about Lola & Chelsea. There are some really fuuny bits too. I wasn’t sure where it would go in S2, but it did not disappoint.

ohfourfoxache · 28/10/2017 22:56

I've just read your coffee update with my chin on the floor at his awkwardness - I bet he's kicking himself that he asked you at such a busy time. But perhaps this will be the first coffee of many?

Pony I'm so glad you're going to go for it!

OldPony · 29/10/2017 14:53

I texted the actor! He was an absolute darling saying what a lovely message to receive but he feels I might have been right with my previous response and that he's going through a hideous time right now.

To be fair, his wife only requested a divorce early this summer and he's still in the family home until they manage to sell it. I'm very happy at his honesty and also think he won't be ready for a relationship for at least a year.

Back to the drawing board for me! At least I have Wanted. I watched 3 episodes last night and shall do the same tonight!

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