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Hand holding really needed. I am waiting to hear if my DH is parepared to try to fix our marriage

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Tearsofthemushroom · 16/09/2017 16:40

DHleft me out of the blue two months ago. It was a huge shock although once I had time to think about it I could see that things had been not good for about a year. He came back after couple of days and we had been working to make things better. He finds it really difficult to talk about the past as it is so painful for him so I had been focussing on the small stuff, trying to make life more fun, talk more, listen better etc.
Anyway, until last weekend I thought that it was working well and we felt much closer. I mentioned to him that it was getting better and he obviously didn't feel the same way. I got upset and he went off in the car for a few hours.
For the past week I have been feeling more and more anxious and he has gradually started to pull away from me. I talked to him on Thursday night, asking him to think about counselling and pointing out that we both need to want to marriage work to recover. I was devastated when he said that he isn't sure if He wants it badly enough.
He had to work last night and messaged me this morning that he needs some space to think things through and hopefully he will come home this evening. I am desperate to call him but trying really hard not to.
We have been married for nearly 20 years and have a wonderful life and family and I don't understand how he might be prepared to walk away from it all.
I have booked an appointment at a relationship counsellor on Monday as I think that I might need the help, but am really hoping that he will want to come with me.
Please be kind, I need some strength and support at this point.

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YodellingMama · 16/09/2017 16:44
Flowers

What struck me about your post was that it was all about him. What about you? Were your needs being met in the marriage?

Casmama · 16/09/2017 16:45

I think that you probably need to accept that he will make the decision he makes whatever you do. Try to stop tying yourself in knots trying to make him happy.
Is there any possibility there is anyone else involved?
I'm sorry you are going through this.

MyBrilliantDisguise · 16/09/2017 16:48

I noticed it was all about him, too. You must be in a real state, wondering what your future holds while he goes off holding all the power.

Do you think there's anyone else involved? When he lived apart last time, did you see much of him? Did he seem happier for being on his own?

MyBrilliantDisguise · 16/09/2017 16:49

What happened in the past, that he struggles to discuss now?

SonicBoomBoom · 16/09/2017 16:53

Cherchez la femme.

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Tearsofthemushroom · 16/09/2017 16:57

He had a very brief (three times) fling before he left but it felt very much like that was him trying to make sure that I wouldn't want him back rather than him going out for an affair and he has been very contrite about it.
His parents didn't really show any love for him (he got an unwrapped flask left on the kitchen table for his eighteenth birthday) and he is basically non contact with them now. We did try to talk about what had gone wrong in the relationship but it was so painful for us both that he wanted to look forward rather than at the past.

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MyBrilliantDisguise · 16/09/2017 16:59

But he's had 20 years of love from you, hasn't he?

He made the decision three times to sleep with another woman. It wasn't a one night stand that he regretted as soon as it was over. He then left you.

Of course he finds it difficult to talk about if he's the one in the wrong!

FiveBoys · 16/09/2017 17:01

OP, let him go and take the first step to a life you deserve. It will hurt. In fact it will hurt like buggery. But what you have now is also hurting and no good is going to come of it whereas if you tell him to go you'll go on to happier days.

And Im sorry but this nonsense about wanting to look forward instead of looking at the past - it was his way of not being held to account for what went on.

He's a coward as well as a cheat.

Casmama · 16/09/2017 17:01

It sounds like he could do with some counselling on his own.
I would be a little wary about making things too easy for him, he needs to take some responsibility.
As for giving you a reason not to want him back - did it really require 3 times?

Isetan · 16/09/2017 17:03

You can't fix your marriage alone and if your H needs this much time to think, he doesn't want to. You've been on the back foot ever since he left the first time and your desperation has reduced you to jumping through hoops and walking on eggshells to pacify at best, a disinterested man and at worst, a manipulative one.

Sorry Op but you can't make him care and in trying to, you are losing your self respect.

FiveBoys · 16/09/2017 17:03

And Im sorry but you're minimising and so is he. You need it to 'only' have been three times in order to protect yourself and he needs you to believe it was 'only' three times in order to get away with it.

Im on my own after a marriage of then 36 years. Its been horrific at times but it would have been even more horrific if I was still in the marriage with a man like yours who was never going to change.

YodellingMama · 16/09/2017 17:07

Be careful you are not seeing yourself in the rescuer role. Him having a crap childhood doesn't absolve him of responsibility.

And please don't make excuses for him cheating on you. You deserve better than that!!

Tearsofthemushroom · 16/09/2017 17:19

Walking on eggshells is the right term and I know that if he comes back this evening wanting to make it work then I need to set some boundaries. He needs to talk to either me or a counsellor. He has too much held inside that he needs to let go of. I need to believe that we are really going to make a try of it. I can't spend my life worried that he is going to walk away.
It has crossed my mind that the other woman has come back on the scene, I guess only time will tell on that one. He is usually a very moral person so I really don't think that he will continue behind my back, I think that he would rather leave than that

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FiveBoys · 16/09/2017 17:23

He is usually a very moral person so I really don't think that he will continue behind my back

Op, he had an affair. Of course he's not got any morals.

Sometimes a thing has to be completely broken and taken apart before it can be fixed. Telling your husband to go so you can both see where things are in 6 months is an idea.

Cambionome · 16/09/2017 17:27

Hmm. I'm not really seeing this "very moral" man tbh... Confused

Whatever happens, don't do the "pick me" dance op. You deserve a lot more than desperately hanging on, hoping that he doesn't leave you again, hoping that the OW doesn't come back... what sort of life would that be?

As a pp has said, making the decision to make the break yourself will be very very difficult, but it will also be empowering and you will get through it all and go on to have a happy life. Flowers

Underthemoonlight · 16/09/2017 17:32

He has morals of a street alley cat. He is mugging you off.I bet my house he's in contact with ow. His past relationship with his dp has no relevance on your relationship especially as you've been together 20 years with a family. He is using it as an excuse and putting the work down ready for when he leaves you op. I don't like to be direct but it's pretty clear to see when we going through it don't want to see it. I speak from experience Flowers

FiveBoys · 16/09/2017 17:37

OP, one of the hardest things in all of this is seeing your husband for who he is. He's not the man you thought he was and taking of your rose coloured glasses knowing full well its going to hurt you like blazes takes courage but you have to do it.

LEMtheoriginal · 16/09/2017 17:44

'Hopefully "come home this evening? Who the fuck does he think he is? he needs to tell you if he is coming. What a cunt.

Holding your hand OP xx

Tearsofthemushroom · 16/09/2017 17:55

Thank you all. Some of it is hard to take but I will get stronger. I messaged him to say that the kids are out at a friend until this evening and can he come home to talk and he hasn't replied. None of it is looking good. I need to start thinking about how I am going to hold it together and be strong for the children.

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Cambionome · 16/09/2017 18:22

Sorry to hear that, op, but maybe better now than a few more years down the line.

Holding your hand. Flowers

FiveBoys · 16/09/2017 18:25

Tears, its hard to take and its also hard for other women to say the things to you that have been said on the thread but everything that has been said has been said to help you.

If I were you I would now text him and say - on second thoughts I don't actually want you home tonight and for the foreseeable future. I'll sort out a bag for you and leave it in the garden/garage/friend etc.

NorthandSouth98374 · 16/09/2017 18:31

Nothing like your situation, but I walked away from a man a fortnight ago because I didn't know where I stood. I was gutted for a day. One single day, then an overwhelming sense of relief that I'd taken control and the sky had not collapsed washed over me. Do you want this man back and have to continue with the gnawing, panicky feeling in your stomach that he's going to decide he doesn't want toy again? Please think about taking back control of your life so your happiness does not depend upon his whims. It really is such a release to walk away.

NorthandSouth98374 · 16/09/2017 18:34

(I'm not suggesting that you'll be moved on in a day, just that that awful, horrible anxiety about 'is he going to stay' leaves and is replaced with 'I miss him, but actually, I'm still going and I don't need him making me feel churned up and on edge all the time, this is not that bad'

Apileofballyhoo · 16/09/2017 19:04

Sounds like he has issues he has never dealt with and expects you to put up with his inability to be a decent loving partner. Do you not think you deserve better?

SandyY2K · 16/09/2017 19:25

The 180 will help you move forward and have a good life without him

healinginfidelity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-180-for-unfaithful-spouse.html?m=1