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I don't know what to do

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lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 08:57

I've been sick several times in the night, my heart is racing.
It's making me very unhappy and ill.

How I can be blamed and bullied when other people have failed to do their jobs is beyond me.
At this rate I'll be giving birth in a court room.
Every day is the same a big blur of stress and emails, phone calls, worry, incredulity that this is happening to me.

Next week is going to be hideous. I go into hospital Sunday night two hours after he is supposed to hand them back. That's is I don't get a stay of arrangements and adjournment in. If he doesn't return them what do I do?

CAFCASS had the nerve to tell me on the phone yesterday that they'd like to use my case as a lessons learned in his to do their job better. I was astounded at the hitgeryo level of buck passing then sector speak apology for how much they'd fucked up alongside my solicitor

I thought things had reached a nadir last Friday / Saturday but no.

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Youcanttaketheskyfromme · 28/10/2017 09:00

It's ok. You can do this.

If he doesn't bring them back there are legal channels - someone's cunt of a husband did that a few weeks ago. She posted about it - I can't remember the legal side but essentially she went to court and the child was back with her within 24 hours. You WILL get them back if he does that.

If you are worried start a thread asking for advice - I know some mumsnetters helped in that thread.

lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 09:02

@donajimena you make such a true point.
He is just relentless and is doing all this in the hope I give in, drop the charges and go back with my tail between my legs. Then he can really pick up where he left off, with all of us.

I will never do this but he thinks he can bring me down into such tiny, defeated miserable pieces. All the bullying through his c**t of a solicitor, the harassment, fake concern, crocodile tears. It’s nauseating and terrifying.

I’d rather be dead than go back to him.

Just so frightened what will happen to my children if people don’t listen.

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lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 09:04

@Youcanttaketheskyfromme yes but I will be being induced in hospital next weekend. It’s like a perfect storm

It seems so u fair, he’s breached the order already in terms of the warning to harass not being effective from noon on Friday. But still he’s seeking to enforce it when all I have said is we haven’t had it jointly ratified and sealed and fortnightly means next weekend to most people.

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Youcanttaketheskyfromme · 28/10/2017 09:08

I'm sorry I don't know.

You might get better advice on that in legal ?

Idontmeanto · 28/10/2017 09:20

Lollipop I know you’ve got a battle ahead and weekends are the worst because the professionals all shut up shop. Remember that will frustrate his ambitions, too.
Is there somewhere safe you can be tomorrow?

Idontmeanto · 28/10/2017 09:22

Have you heard back from the social worker yet?

lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 09:36

No I’ve not heard back yet but didn’t expect to.

Hopefully next week.
CAFCASS have also said they will phone them to discuss my concerns and issues with them. I know Social Workers can recommend change of contact to the Court based on new evidence so I am hoping this with the Police vulnerable child status, the fact the HV has decided to present my form at MARAC now, the need for a non molestation order, the harassment, breaches of previous contact plus the things my son has told the nursery, and Safeguarding intending to interview him plus the investigation plan from the Police should mes I have s good chance of stopping contact at least for a while.
If that doesn’t nothing will, I’ve done my level best.

I think the other issue is thst he will have nobody to discharge supervisory duties as his mother will be recovering from hospital treatment, and I’m not sure his father will leave them. I don’t know though.

He will do something this weekend. Like the police said, if he comes her and terrifies me or hurts me then he will be in hot water and arrested Court Order or not. They’ve put a marker on the house and are keeping in touch with me to see if I’m ok.

I think the non molestation order will help,so that’s a priority.

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OnTheRise · 28/10/2017 09:41

It must be so hard for you, Lollipop. I can't believe how badly he's behaving. He has no compassion at all, for you or for his children.

At least you're no longer with him. That has to be good.

Wishing you well.

Idontmeanto · 28/10/2017 09:45

This is madness! Sounds like the police are aware at least. Look after you.

dizzy174 · 28/10/2017 10:48

have the police offered you a rapid respond alarm?

donajimena · 28/10/2017 12:36

dizzy the marker is the rapid response. If you ring from the number thats marked its automatically an emergency

lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 12:42

No they haven't given me an alarm but I do have a mark on the house as a 999 priority if I call.
I just feel drained. Don't want to put a dampener on things.

the Police have just called they are going to see him this afternoon and tell him to either show them a paper copy of court order agreed by all parties and dates or back off. No order he is being formally warned not to attempt to visit the property tomorrow. That's going to go down well. 🙈🙈🙈
They're up on Monday to get my iPad and the phones to take and download stuff and go through all the evidence and take my Victim Personal Statement

It's so gruelling.

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Groovee · 28/10/2017 12:53

At least he will be warned so if he turns up tomorrow he can find out what’s going to happen. If he does then it’s more evidence to show the judge that he does not listen.

Sit yourself down for a wee while and try to relax if possible. I know it’s not easy x

Pandoraphile · 28/10/2017 13:28

Lolli - just wanted to add my voice to the crowd in saying that I am absolutely amazed and awed at your strength, resilience and sheer determination.

I know it doesn't seem like that to you now because you are in so deep and can't see the wood from the trees. But one day soon all this will recede and you'll emotionally recover. Then you'll look back and think "Crikey! Was that me??? Did I really do all of that??" And the answer will be yes - yes, you did and you'll be so proud of yourself.

iknowimcoming · 28/10/2017 13:37

I’m glad the police are going to warn him off, hopefully that’ll shock him a bit, you’re doing great even if it doesn’t feel that way to you, get some lunch and some rest if possible Lollipop Flowers

jeaux90 · 28/10/2017 14:13

As one who escaped a narc I would say this is a very precarious time. He is losing control. Whether he recognises the seriousness of the police visit or not will be significant.

They can't give themselves permission to be wrong and anything that threatens their sense of self will be a target.

There are two things I hope happens. 1) that he takes note of the police warning 2) that he finds a new supply

Mine eventually did and now lives on the other side of the world with no contact with my and my dd for 6 years. I wish the same for you. Xx

Idontmeanto · 28/10/2017 14:14

That sounds like the police a being proactive, but what’s to stop him showing a copy of the “old” court order in the absence of a new one? Do you have any evidence that there was a hearing last week, even if no actual court order from that has appeared?

lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 14:27

The police know the hearing last week on the 20th of October. The date has to be form there

The only Court Order he has is a once for the 13 th and 15th of October and then a note on it for the hearing on 20th October,
The Police have also said if he gives them one they are calling me immediately to discuss and will send to me immediately.

He won’t have a court order for them they’re calling his bluff, neither side had one as of 2pm yesterday.even if we had been sent then we still needed my barristers note of attendance and his agreement for my solicitors on my behalf. There are too many pieces of the puzzle missing.

If when I FINALLY see the Court Order it does have those non contact clauses in then breached the order quite some days ago

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ladyballs · 28/10/2017 15:05

Delurking to offer my support. Flowers

PeppersTheCat · 28/10/2017 15:09

Same. Flowers

MrsBertBibby · 28/10/2017 15:37

Small point Lollipop, if you can't be criticised for not following the order until you have seen it, neither can he.

Idontmeanto · 28/10/2017 16:13

Sounds encouraging. No, he can’t have it both ways either! He’s either got a court order which includes supervised visits and no contact with Lollipop or no court order, therefore no visit, and he’s still been a harassing, unreasonable turd.
Keep going Lollipop!

lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 16:17

MrsB I know which is why I have kicked off as I really don't know what is actually written on it. I haven't said anything to him in case it's not written as thus

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OnTheRise · 28/10/2017 17:20

Keep us posted, won't you, Lollipop, if you have time and energy. I don't know whether to hope he doesn't kick off after the police visit, or to hope he does: if he doesn't you'll have an easier time, but if he does it'll help your case, which will be good.

Thinking of you.