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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

I don't know what to do

981 replies

lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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AvoidingDM · 27/10/2017 00:03

He really is taking more than enough rope to hang himself. Hopefully the court see it.

Good luck with changing lawyers.

Sleep well lady your doing a wonderful job.

bluescreen · 27/10/2017 00:08

Power to you, lollipop.
I haven't commented before now as I haven't had anything really constructive to add, except marvel at your resourcefulness, courage, and resoluteness.
But:
Power to you! You are amazing!

And may he shrivel in hell.

notapizzaeater · 27/10/2017 00:59

Ditto to blue screen message

JWrecks · 27/10/2017 05:46

@debbs77
Just read the first 10 pages and jumped to the end thinking things would be resolved due to the length of time and can't believe how awful he is still being!!!

You're amazing!!!!

It's almost unbelievable, isn't it??? It's sickening, too. This system is really in need of some overhaul. Training, more research into abusive partners and control, better protocols for dealing with manipulative and dangerous exPs... bloody something! Nobody should have to go through what she's gone through just to protect their children and themselves!! This system has been failing Lolli over and over, and she has done nothing but fight tooth and nail to get this far, ON HER OWN! It's maddening to watch and this thread has reduced me to tears more than once, I'm not ashamed to say.

I've also jumped up and cheered at this thread, too, so it's not all bad. @Lolli really is a true hero. She really is. I've never seen anything like it. :)

The drawbridge is up. The doors are bolted. I’ve got a couple of Rottweilers by them just in case and then there’s me sat up in the rafters with a shotgun.

That's what I'm talking about! Metaphor or not, I can picture you like this, @Lolli!! In my mind, you're an amazing, war-painted Amazon warrior mama bear carrying the weight of the world like it's nothing, beating away threats to the DC with a massive gilded hammer.

Still here for support, love, and still anxiously awaiting the day you can relax and celebrate, safe with your precious DC. It will come. I'm certain of that. I only wish there were more I could do to help you. Flowers

Barmaid101 · 27/10/2017 14:55

Been thinking of you. Can't imagine what your going through! He really is a cunt of the higest order! Please excuse my language! I'm struggling to cope at 28 weeks with a toddler and I have nowhere near as much crap going on around me!
You really are a wonderful mum!

lollipop7 · 27/10/2017 15:40

So waited until lunchtime and no sign of a note of attendance or a court order.

On that basis the letter re contact not going ahead was sent. Cue lots of bullying from his solicitor. I’m not being subjected to it anymore. We only found out today that the judge is writing the court order. So how can his solicitor tell my solicitors what is in it? Is he a mind Reader?

I’ve been advised that the other side can’t apply for an enforcement order as the actual court order and note of attendance can’t be produced. That seems fair to me.
It also was interesting that when my ex’s solicitor was telling my firm what was in the order he omitted to Mention the No Contact order due to harassment. Strange that isn’t it?

If I let him see the children without a court order it will make me look a total flake and that his behaviour isn’t so bad after all. Hardly the case. He wants to just sweep me aside.

The Police have been out and they have said if there is no Court Order signed by both sets of Parties or their representatives then he cannot demand contact. They have said if he still turns up he will be told to leave or face arrest. That will go down well.

I am dreading the next few hours and days. 38 weeks pregnant tomorrow and this is what I’m up against.

@JWrecks I could do with mamma bear coming to the fore right now!

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littlechous · 27/10/2017 16:14

Oh OP keep on keeping on. How he cause this amount of stress to a 38 week pregnant woman is just beyond the pale.

Flowers
OnTheRise · 27/10/2017 18:00

It's a shame we don't all live around you, lollipop. We could all come round and support you.

Keep the doors locked and a phone in your hand. And perhaps alert your neighbours, so they know what's going on.

Ellendegeneres · 27/10/2017 18:34

You're doing amazing. You really are. Chin up, you got this! You're so much stronger than you possibly know

Idontmeanto · 27/10/2017 21:38

Good grief what a cock up!

Idontmeanto · 27/10/2017 21:38

Take care of you!

littlebird7 · 27/10/2017 21:53

Lolli

Sending you the biggest bigggest hug. Oh my just read this post and am feeling for you. You are strong, you can do this. For your children and your baby hold on. Things will only get better from now.
Know that we are behind you - many many of us holding a light for you. One day you will look back with pride. Please let us know how you are

notangelinajolie · 27/10/2017 21:54

Flowers You are an amazing, strong woman and I am in awe of your courage. I also wanted to send you and your lovely babies the biggest virtual unmumsnetty hugs in the world.

lollipop7 · 27/10/2017 22:07

Thanks folks😊
He’s gone nuts threatening me tonight with enforcement orders. Apparently, fortnightly contact from the 20th means this week and not the next 🤔 I merely pointed out in the absence of anything to the contrary from the Court that it is in fact next weekend. It’s not just me is it?

Just more bullying from him and more control. Do as you’re told or else.

Waiting for the inevitable backlash

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Idontmeanto · 27/10/2017 22:18

Sweetie, don’t engage with him. Let your solicitor deal with it all. If he thinks he knows the terms of the court order then he also knows that direct contact with you is not acceptable. You’ll compromise that if you engage.

littlebird7 · 27/10/2017 22:24

Have you got a restraining order? I think I would consider getting one asap. Consider cutting contact everything should go through the lawyers now.
Talk to your mum tell her everything. Keep him sway from you and the children. A supervised contact centre might be the best option for now.
Put every safety guard in place as he could react badly once he realises this is actually happening.

Racmactac · 27/10/2017 22:35

Do NOT engage otherwise you will be criticised for encouraging him to break the court order.

Ignore. Ignore and then ignore
Some more

lollipop7 · 27/10/2017 22:42

I will be ignoring anything that comes now. Including the inevitable right that's is you've dug your own grave/ but my mum is ill /this is what the judge said.

He has breached the order that
Much I know. All I have done is say that contact is actually next week and the children are not available this weekend as that is not fortnightly from the date at which the court order is effective. Or two weeks from 20th. That's not tomorrow. And if it gets to next weekend and we still don't have the Court Order then we'll see.
Enough time to use my updated info to lodge a stay of arrangements application. Including the fact the bastard harassment for three days running.

As if I would hand my children over to him without a court order.

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Wiggles9408 · 27/10/2017 23:42

I have just m read your entire thread and you are AMAZING!!!! Wow!!! I couldn’t stop until I knew where you’d gotten to and you are just incredible! You’ve come so so far and obviously there’s still a way to go but you’ve got this! I don’t know you but I am so proud of you!? I’m wishing you and your little cubs all the best in the future! you’re an absolute lioness! 💕

Groovee · 28/10/2017 06:32

Gosh he really is an entitled arse who hasn’t quite grasped that you are in control and he’s not.

Oi Judge hurry up with that order!

Hoping things go quiet and that he doesn’t turn up. However I suspect t the opposite will happen x

Frouby · 28/10/2017 08:04

Oh darling. What a fucking knobber. Everytime I read your updates I think that surely he can't get worse. And then he does.

Are you in contact with the domestic violence team at the local police station? They should have you flagged as high priority for rapid response. And you can also ask for panic alarms that you press instead of having to phone. It's worth asking for them even if you don't think you need them. It will look better to court if you have to go to such measures because of what he is doing.

I would be out tomorrow. Definetly speak to your mams neighbours tho so they can call the police if he turns up.

And something else to think about. What are you doing long term about your housing situation? Now would be a good time to approach your local housing team. With everything you have going on I would imagine you will be high priority. I know it's just one more thing to do when you probably just want to lay on the sofa but even if you just start filling in the forms. In our local area your application date ia the date you first submit an application even if you don't have the energy to submit all the supporting evidence.

Unmumsnetty hugs lovely. And some Cake and Flowers and Brew.

lollipop7 · 28/10/2017 08:30

Eerily quiet on the ex front.
This is not a good sign.

There is something awful coming I just know it.

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OnTheRise · 28/10/2017 08:37

Just enjoy the calm right now but keep the doors locked. If he does turn up ignore him and call the police.

I hope you're ok. This is all so awful.

donajimena · 28/10/2017 08:53

Good morning I've just read this. I can't believe what you are going through. I'm proud you left. So many don't leave. This is not a judgement the harassment you are getting shows why so many don't. I stayed with my ex for 7 years too long..

AvoidingDM · 28/10/2017 08:55

Enjoy the peace while it lasts.
He really is showing himself up to be a dick. Who harrasses a heavily pregnant woman to any degree.

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