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I don't know what to do

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lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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NameWithChange · 22/10/2017 21:32

Hope you're ok this evening and managing to wind down a little.

I honestly don't know how you are coping with all the anxiety and heavily pregnant too - just being that big used to overwhelm me completely. Thinking of you.

lovemycockapoo · 22/10/2017 21:35

I went through something similar a few years ago lollipop and I’m through the other side. My dc have not seen their waste of space narcissist father for years now and are happy well adjusted kids.
Like you I fought him and the system tooth and nail. I abided by the court orders but only as far as to keep myself out of trouble but my dc safe. In my experience cafcass were totally inept. Getting them to understand that their father was only interested in continuing his abuse of me and would use and abuse the children in anyway possible to do that was beyond frustration.
My point is keep fighting, that’s what I did and I got there in the end Xc

lollipop7 · 22/10/2017 22:42

Thanks so much for all the messages of support.

I feel a bit of a tit for throwing my toys out of the pram earlier.🙈 sorry. A Sunday dinner has sorted ,y energy and drama queen levels out now.

I am going to do my level best to modify the contact order in some way. Will start tomorrow with SS.

I decided to travel through all my back catalogue of joy tonight 😉 and I have found evidence in the form of hideous text messages about me from his mother that I found on his phone in July saying I was mentally ill and the children deserved better, that I was angry and that he should tell me to ”fuck off with my request for supervised contact” . Doesn’t look good does it in terms of them being impartisan and robust in upholding the supervisory nature of their role.

Plus the children haven’t seen them since May, they rejected my offer of contact (in writing which I kept) since I left and have not once enquired about the children. There is also a string of poisonous emails in which they agreed their son should play me for time to weaken me and that if he got them back they would do a lot more to help.

If that isn’t incriminating then I don’t know what will do.

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lollipop7 · 22/10/2017 22:42

Sorry non partisan

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lurkingwithlove · 22/10/2017 23:22

Hey lollipop I've read your whole thread, you're a warrior, seriously. Your children are so lucky to have you as their Mum.

I have no insult sick enough for him. Or his parents.

Glad you've still got the fight in you. He doesn't deserve to have any contact with the children after the way he's treated you all. I really hope the system works that out.

Hope you're getting some rest now. It's hard when you're wired I know that feeling well. Wishing you lots if strength but also lots of cuddles and sweet times with your little ones x

CheckpointCharlie2 · 22/10/2017 23:25

God lolli I've read your thread today and think you are an amazingly resilient person even though you may not feel like it.

Just wishing you some luck now and for someone to get on board with you and see the whole situation for what it is and support you. Is your solicitor that person now? As a society we need women's advocates to support people in your situation from start to finish and just be that person who is with you every step.

Your ex just defies belief and all the agencies that are supposed to protect you seem not to have grasped how diabolical he is.

Keep going, you've done so much already. I respect you tonnes.
(Hug)

MrsBertBibby · 22/10/2017 23:37

Please try to remember, next time you get in this state, that tiredness and hunger are making things worse.

lollipop7 · 22/10/2017 23:54

I will. My mother has said the same thing to me every day since I came home.

Just I feel punch drunk with it all. I go and buy nice things to eat and cook for dinner and then for the last three months every day or night he’s done something awful and i end up too stressed to eat. Or I’m in hospital. Or some shit comes out of nowhere, and a little plan like taking the children out for a walk or making a picture or story time has been obliterated. It’s an onslaught.

I used to be able to take a lot of pleasure in small things but he has stripped so much of that away.
I have a lot to re-educate myself on again, most importantly my capacity for happiness and calm.

Until it’s been taken away you don’t realise how intangible it is.

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MrsBertBibby · 22/10/2017 23:57

You'll get it back. Don't worry.

lollipop7 · 23/10/2017 00:05

Thank You.
💐

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JWrecks · 23/10/2017 00:34

Oh no, please don't feel a tit! You've been through hell and back, then back into hell, and you are still slogging through it! You absolutely deserve to vent and complain and get it all out, and this place is tailor made for just that! We all support you here, so you throw whatever you like! :) You're sounding more cheerful now, so it's good you got it out. Hope you're feeling as much better as you sound.

Great find! That's proof he's not interested in the poor sweet kids!

Honestly, this guy (and his mum) must be pretty dim to always be leaving this horrible evidence lying around where you can see it! Well, either that, or it's just more of his abuse tactics, slagging you off behind your back and leaving the messages/emails/etc open where you might see it. FFS what a monster he is.

BackInTheRoom · 23/10/2017 01:01

Just read the thread too. Omg OP😱. No words....I tried fighting the system for a family member...it's a shambles. 💐

tillytown · 23/10/2017 06:17

Just read the thread, you are amazing. I understand that it feels like you are getting nowhere, but you have done so much, the amount of strength you have shown at 9 months pregnant is remarkable.
I hope today is a nice relaxed day, you deserve a rest Flowers

babsthebuilder · 23/10/2017 06:44

I throw my toys out of the pram for far far less and in comparison I’ve got no justification. Glad you’re back on form though, and yes, his mums messages do sound rather damning. Good luck

aleC4 · 23/10/2017 07:33

Lollipop you are the strongest woman ever and you have done amazing things for your children.
It may not feel like it now, but you have.
I wish you all the strength in the world to continue with your horrendous fight for safety for you and your babies.

lollipop7 · 23/10/2017 11:39

Well I've already had a mental email from him

He is unreal

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Groovee · 23/10/2017 11:44

You aren’t a twat. You are heavily pregnant and this is somewhere you can off load. We’re all here rooting for you.

He’s the twat. He’s lost you but still trying to control you. Keep the evidence. You are a fabulous mum and you have come so far. We’re all here for you x

KarenW · 23/10/2017 11:44

How mental? forward all emails to the police, keep copies tho! You have done so much, know you will succeed!

iknowimcoming · 23/10/2017 11:48

So he’s in breach already? Report to whoever needs to know this ASAP! And keep your chin up and eat properly! He knows this stuff rattles you - so don’t let him get to you, just pass this info onto relevant people and get on with your day as much as you can. Also - what a twat! He is in fact his own worst enemy - I think ultimately he may be doing your work for you in terms of the contact etc Flowers

lollipop7 · 23/10/2017 11:49

Asking first of all how I was 🙄 And how my transfusions were going

Secondly how much he was
Looking forward to Skype tonight (judge has stopped it)

Thirdly that he couldn't wait to see the kids at MY house on Sunday. The court order hasn't even been approved and in any event in applying for a stay of arrangements, on the basis he is not to be trusted.

Think this email proves that.

Either his solicitor hasn't told him which is negligence or he's chosen to ignore the Court for a third time running.

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prettywhiteguitar · 23/10/2017 11:54

If you are experiencing trouble being heard by ss and the police your local mp will hear you and they are in a position to help. You are doing so well don't give up.

It's beyond me why men like this get access to their children. Flowers

prettywhiteguitar · 23/10/2017 11:55

He is harassing you take it to the police, you are pregnant and vulnerable and he's playing on it

lollipop7 · 23/10/2017 11:58

I've already got a harassment complaint ongoing with the police as well as coercive control and two counts of assault.
I've logged it with them this morning so they are aware. They are preparing all the evidence to interview him soon.

My former and current MPs have also been contacted.

He is never going to leave us alone unless put away.

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prettywhiteguitar · 23/10/2017 12:03

You're doing everything right, you have done as much as you can. It's hard and you will get through it, I really feel for you, your stress levels must be through the roof

CiderwithBuda · 23/10/2017 12:09

He's looking forward to Skype tonight??? He is either completely delusional or as you say his solicitor hasn't told him. Wonder if they were afraid he'd kick off?

Give him enough rope and he will hang himself.

And don't worry about yesterday. It's understandable how you felt. We would all be the same.