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I don't know what to do

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lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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lollipop7 · 13/10/2017 12:12

wanted to change the order on sunday not don't want

Also I let him take them all on my car and leave his very expensive hire one on the drive and keys with me.

That way he has to come back.
I just want my babies home safely.

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Mustang27 · 13/10/2017 12:27

I hate this man with every fibre in my body and iv never met him Lollipop, you are doing so incredibly wel. Enjoy your chocolate try to replenish in any way you see fit. Could you get yourself a wee pregnancy massage to see if that can help you relax a little. Has your midwife not suggested some antenatal counselling for all this crap going on?

Your solicitor should be ashamed.

It will all be fine, I feel for your poor mum having to be with that tosser today.

lollipop7 · 13/10/2017 12:33

@Mustang27 it is truly awful. But I think fearing he won't bring the children back on Sunday would tip me into early labour. I already have to be back at court next Thursday to lodge this petition re the finding of fact. So all that to prepare for and I need a clear head.

I got all this saccharine shit about how lovely I looked, how he couldn't switch off his feelings for me blah fucking blah. I don't know how I stopped myself punching him but somehow I found the Grey Rock within.

I think my solicitor is suitably admonished. After a forty five minute carpeting over the phone there wasn't room for many other states really. He's giving me a three hour appointment on Tuesday free of charge to prepare for the petition so I suppose that's something. One more mistake though and it's curtains.

I think I will seek a direct counsel / access Barrister for the Fact Finding Hearing, as per @MrsBertBibby Excellent advice. There is so much he has done I want him shredded.

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Mustang27 · 13/10/2017 13:04

No I’m completely with you today is the lesser of the two evils, it’s a disgrace that you have even had to be subjected to that though.

Yeah don’t have anything sharp near by when he is spouting that crap. It’s crazy once the scales have slipped from your eyes what would have been seen as charming at the beginning, that it’s just more of their manipulative bull shit. I can’t stomach compliments at all any more due to similar behaviour exhibited by my exh they make me instantly defensive and come across as massively insincere.

Good, yeah setting up a new solicitor right now might be more work than just sticking with your now thoroughly whipped one.

Bert looked like she knew her stuff, mumsnet at its best.

Gemini69 · 13/10/2017 14:05

Lollipop sending massive hugs and support for recent events... your a strong woman ... I cannot credit you enough for what you have already achieved... you're an inspiration Flowers

good luck with Baby... Flowers

Idontmeanto · 13/10/2017 21:54

How are you and the kids tonight Lollipop?

NameWithChange · 14/10/2017 10:14

It's only words but I wanted to send my admiration and support OP. It is so wrong the only route to sanity and safeness for you and your children is this hellish road.

I have been through the Court system (still am) and it is just the most frustrating and soul destroying thing I have ever known.

Keep strong, keep knocking back the cups of tea and know that one day this will all be over and your babies will always know you have put them above anything or anyone else. You are amazing.

Mustang27 · 14/10/2017 15:54

Hey lollipop just popping in to say iv been thinking about you and I hope yesterday went as well as it could and your babies and mum survived ok. Have you managed to rest any since getting out of hospital?

lollipop7 · 14/10/2017 18:57

Yesterday was awful and surreal. As suspected he came loaded with gifts for the children. All he wanted to talk about was himself, our old home all the memories. Not interested in what they are learning, doing now etc. He made nasty underhand comments about the house being easy and whilst out with my poor mother interrogated her about "these stupid police charges", my mental health, would she let him come to the hospital with her etc etc"
He was sexually inappropriate with me told me he still loved me, blew
me kisses, asked to touch my baby bump, stroked my fucking hair (???) it was skin crawling stuff.
Then to top it off he left his coat in my car. He followed me to the supermarket and was truly hideous to me in the aisles. He told me that he was going to to "win" the children and ruin my life to the point where I would want to be dead. That he was not paying the Child Maintenance (he hasn't given me a penny for months now), he would destroy my belongings rather than let me have them, and that he would walk away from the police station laughing at the pathetic nonsense I had this throw at him.
Then he touched me arm, told me he loved me and why didn't I just come home like a good girl because that was the only way I'd get to see my Children. That every time he took them out with his mother I'd have to sit in fear wondering whether he would ever bring them back to me or they would be safe.
Then he walked off.

I have spent most of today feeling destitute. My son keeps saying he wants Daddy to come back and bring him some more presents and that he doesn't love me anymore, so the charm offensive worked. The medication I'm on has wiped me out, I've had a massive row with my mum who's strung out to hell and I'm just out in the dark walking the dog round the streets crying getting intermittent Braxton Hicks. It's unbearable and I can't take much more. I don't know if I can get through the hearing next week and having this baby. I don't think I've got any hope left

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RandomMess · 14/10/2017 19:00
Flowers

You need to report these threats to the police!!!!!

Joysmum · 14/10/2017 19:05

You need to lodge another complaint of harassment. Him bothering you in the supermarket will be on CCTV.

lollipop7 · 14/10/2017 19:12

There's no point in lodging them with the police they are doing nothing.
Because of them failing to get their arses into gear and interview him for any of the complaints nothing showed up on CAFCASS and he was able to subsequently inflict himself upon us. I'm on my own nobody cares about us and that's the cold hard truth. It will take something awful happening for them to believe me and by then it could be too late.
I thought about the CCTV but all it would show is him and me talking oh and the arm brushing. Nothing else. There was a worker replenishing stock but he probably won't remember.

I feel like giving up with everything because at this rate it is going to kill me.

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Mustang27 · 14/10/2017 19:15

Absolutely and hopefully the supermarket has cctv so there is evidence of how inappropriate that behaviour was.

I’m utterly gobsmacked at it all but not remotely surprised. I’m also not surprised you are arguing with your mum that was inevitable and any sensible judge would never passed supervised visits with family of any kind Hmm.

It’s unbelievably sad what you are going through and you seem to break through all the shit a little to get it layered all back in some more.

Dw about your son toddlers are fickle superficial creatures beautiful but inconsiderate when it comes to your feelings. He loves you to the ends of the earth but presents rock when you are 3 lol doesn’t matter who the giver is. My son would likely leave with anyone with the most chocolate he isn’t fussy either. Massive hugs you really deserve a break. Just keep reminding yourself how worthwhile it is to keep fighting no matter how exhausted you are and how hopeless it seems. Your children will thank you for protecting them from this man.

I am so angry for you. You are amazing.

Youcanttaketheskyfromme · 14/10/2017 19:17

Don't give up.

Do phone the police again.

You are doing really really well. He is a cunt and I would like to find him and string him up by the balls.

He's already loosing by having to only get supervised contact. And you are going to appeal that.

If he does pull Andy stupid stunts with not bringing the children back you can go to court and you WILL have them returned. Probably within a day and it will seriously damage his credibility.

He sounds like he is unravelling hugely. Keep going. Keep it up. You're fantastic and your children are lucky to have you.

RandomMess · 14/10/2017 19:26

You do need to log it with the police!!

Every single time he threatens you, threatens the DC Flowers

lollipop7 · 14/10/2017 19:28

I used to believe I was doing a good job, that I was protecting them, that they were safe in our new home.
Now all that is gone.

I just feel totally bleak. Every day for three months now I have fought and fought. I'm too tired to do anymore. It never gets me anywhere so what's the point.
I don't know what changed between September 12 and now but he seems to have to prove nothing and I have been brushed aside.

It would be easier just to agree contact and hope for the best. This war is going to finish me off and I think it will be in vain anyway.

I'm seriously thinking I will just cave in because it is all too much for me.
I have achieved nothing

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FizzyGreenWater · 14/10/2017 19:31

NO.

Report everything. Everything you have written here.

It's a cumulative thing.

Email an account of it all to CAFCASS, police, everyone involved.

Then refuse access.

lollipop7 · 14/10/2017 19:35

I can't refuse access I will hauled in front of the court. Probably even if I was in the latent stage of labour.
I've got to go back next week for a two hour grilling on why i "deserve" a finding of fact hearing on domestic violence. At 37 weeks pregnant on the day I'm supposed to be in having an iron transfusion critical to avoiding a PPH as iron is so low.

The Police have failed me.

I have seemingly failed my children.

Perhaps I should have just stayed until he did something terrible like try to strangle me then at least it would have been game over.

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Mustang27 · 14/10/2017 19:49

My heart is breaking for you it really is Sad

Joysmum · 14/10/2017 20:00

You still need to log everything inappropriate, whether the police are failing or not.

Report it!

lollipop7 · 14/10/2017 20:26

I've done that since August it hasn't got me anywhere.
I could have reported myself for something heinous and they'd have just taken a statement and left it at that.
I've got reference numbers, emails and apologies left right and centre.
I've lodged formal complaints and still nothing.

There really is no point they have totally failed me and my children I'm not wasting any more time on them.

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MrsBertBibby · 14/10/2017 20:29

Lollipop, I know this is hard to hear but you need to report this. To police, to your lawyer, to anyone. Every time.

You have the courage, you know you do.

lollipop7 · 14/10/2017 20:37

It's not about the courage anymore it about the fact I am just songroind down and so small and tired with it all I can't take it.

Nothing will ever change

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Quartz2208 · 14/10/2017 20:39

Log it he made a threat to the safety of your children whilst in contact and tell your solicitor that and social services I know it seems a pointless fight but you have to keep on going

Wallywobbles · 14/10/2017 20:40

Have you tried your MP. It can’t do any harm and maybe would be the kick up the arse the police need.

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