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Is this BorderlinePD, Sociopath or what???

54 replies

Lipsy21 · 02/07/2017 11:44

I'm in a very complex situation at the moment. My partner and I have been together a year. He has MS and I have chronic illness also, this is how we met. I'm 31 he's 26. When we first met it was like love at first sight. I have had 2 serious relationships before and none were ever as intense as this.
Anyway, he did warn me he had problems with his mental health due to his MS. He also told me he had a history of drug abuse, driving convictions and gambling. Yes most people would run for the hills, but I was confident in myself, am independent in my finances etc and felt that he had a past and was no longer like this.
The whole time we have been together he hasn't touched a drug, driven dangerously or gambled.

However, something he does that really upsets me. Is his moods. I have never witnessed anyone being so full on before, he will do this for weeks/days....constant texts,wants to see me all the time, when we are together we plan the future, he will literally act besotted with me.
We recently broke up as I couldn't deal with his moods anymore and he took a fit of rage toward me one day. However, he had been under immense pressure due to various things going on with his health, I didn't help as I was constantly nit picking.

About a month later he asked if I'd see him. I did, we didn't have sex or anything just chatted. He sat and cried and told me I was the love of his life and he can't live without me so we decided to give it a go. TWO days later he tells me he cant do it as he can't get over the fact I went on ONE date with another guy whilst we split. Yet he kissed someone at a festival. Double standards. So I was heartbroken again,couldnt make out what was going on. I decided to block him on every thing.

Then last week he must have caught wind that I was off on holiday. He then emailed me from a new address.

Anyway, I went on holiday and he started basically begging me back, emailing constantly. When I got to the airport home, here is standing with a large bouquet of flowers and a sign saying "mrs "his surname". I was in shock but it did make me feel good. He said to me he wanted to make up for the way he had behaved in recent months and I was the love of his life and he wanted to be together. He had also been to see my mum and apologise to her. My dad was away working otherwise I dont think he would have done that.

I ended up accepting, much to some of my family and friends' dismay. We spent 3 days together this week. It was amazing and I just felt like we were completely in love and happy again. He sat and cried, looked me in the eye and said im never letting you go again and I'll never treat you badly again.

Past two days, he said he isn't feeling good with his MS. He has basically started to completely withdraw again. Texts are cold, dry and infrequent. I can sense the change immediately.

I do not know how someone can go so hot and cold with someone they love. I have witnessed his mood swings a lot and they scare me. He can literally despise his mother one day and then a week later say aw its just our relationship I love her really.
He changes his mind about lots of things very quickly. Sometimes I wonder if it is the MS, or borderline personality.

Other times I just think he clearly doesn't love me. If I say that to him he will say "how can u say that". Very odd.

I am sick of the anxiety that comes with him. Things can be amazing and intense, then boom....nothing! I feel as though it makes me crazy.

Please be kind and don't tell me I am just some mug. The relationship has been complex and I would have walked ages ago if I felt he wasn't worth it. Although I am very much at the stage where I am ready to walk now.

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shivermytimbers · 02/07/2017 11:49

He sounds ridiculously hard work and I don't think I could be bothered with the drama.
I've never thought much of people who use the "can't live without you" line - much too emotionally blackmaily. When I was much younger a very nice lady told me that you should settle down with "the one that you can happily live with; not the one you can't live without" - and I think she was spot on!

Pollydonia · 02/07/2017 11:50

He is a headfuck. Move on.

Mrbrownstone · 02/07/2017 11:50

Run for the hills

alpacasandwich · 02/07/2017 11:53

It doesn't matter what it is. Get out.

Naicehamshop · 02/07/2017 11:56

Definite headfuck. Get rid.

TurnipCake · 02/07/2017 11:56

When I got to the airport home, here is standing with a large bouquet of flowers and a sign saying "mrs "his surname". I was in shock but it did make me feel good.

If him pulling a stunt like that made you feel good then you need the Freedom Programme

AgathaCrispie · 02/07/2017 11:57

There is nothing complicated or confusing about this. He is a horrible person who is blowing hot and cold to manipulate you and grind you down. He's bamboozling you with the most clichéd Hollywood romanticism and silly declarations, before withdrawing to keep you dancing on a string. He's blaming his illness so you can't blame him.

Stop falling for it.

Run.

Lipsy21 · 02/07/2017 11:59

TurnipCake I have just looked that up there, its about domestic violence.

I haven't had an easy life the past 5 years due to my illness and when I met him things fell into place and were really good at the start. I would say I'm a fairly "normal" person. But his behaviour just makes me feel crazy now.

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Lipsy21 · 02/07/2017 12:01

@agathacrispie why does he do it though? What does he get out of making me upset and angry?

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Pollydonia · 02/07/2017 12:01

He wants his behavior to make you feel crazy. Do not consider marrying him, you will be in for a lifetime of shit. Run.

BeyondDrinksAndKnowsThings · 02/07/2017 12:02

If you are dealing with a chronic illness yourself, you really shouldn't be wasting your energy on this shit. There are better men out there, you don't have to settle for this one.

LowGravity · 02/07/2017 12:03

Any relationship that makes you sick with anxiety needs to end. A partner should make you feel good and improve your life otherwise what's the point?
Agree with turnip, that scenario should ring alarm bells not make you feel good.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 02/07/2017 12:04

It does sound like BPD.

AgathaCrispie · 02/07/2017 12:04

I don't know. Because he's horrible. Does it help you if you can label it as 'borderline personality' or 'because of his MS' or 'because he's a twat'? You still shouldn't put up with it. It sounds like you're looking for a reason to say it's not his fault. What then? Are you going to stick around and 'help' him? Because he'll just keep being horrible.

Leave.

LowGravity · 02/07/2017 12:05

why does he do it though? What does he get out of making me upset and angry?

Who cares? You don't need to understand why. He makes you upset and angry, that's all you need to know.

ChicRock · 02/07/2017 12:06

Yes most people would run for the hills, but I was confident in myself

No, a confident in themselves person would have run for the hills at the start, or at least at the very first signs of his behaviour.

What does it matter what label you think he should be given? Are you looking for a diagnosis for him so that you can continue to excuse his behaviour?

You need therapy, lots and lots of it.

Lipsy21 · 02/07/2017 12:08

Thanks everyone. Now I am feeling like a complete mug. I probs am a bit vulnerable after the past 5 years and what has happened to me healthwise.
I do need to just cut him out

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ArcturianMegaDonkey · 02/07/2017 12:09

He will not change and his behaviour towards you will not improve. What you have now is as good as it's ever going to get.

He is obsessive.
He is controlling.
He is manipulative.

I'm sorry that he's unwell, but that doesn't mean YOU deserve to be anxious and unhappy. I've suffered with co-dependent relationships and realised that I was trying to control my anxiety by pandering to shitty (now ex) DPs. It felt like love at the time, but that feeling was something more destructive - a sort of desperation, I suppose. The only real cure for my anxiety was to stop having relationships with people like them and your DP.

PollytheDolly · 02/07/2017 12:10

Hot and cold. Push and pull. All the same thing. It's a manipulation tactic to make you feel exactly how you do right now. You stay in this it will completely scramble your brain and you won't think straight because of the self doubt slowly being dripped into you and you'll end up in this for years.

Do you want that? Of course you don't. You know what to do. Save yourself now Flowers

ArcturianMegaDonkey · 02/07/2017 12:10

Cross post!

It's the right decision, OP.

childmaintenanceserviceinquiry · 02/07/2017 12:12

The Freedom programme is about identifying and dealing with abusers. It helps you set proper boundaries around behaviours from others, including family members.

Your posts contain a lot of red flags with regard to your b/fs behaviours. eg too much too soon, love bombing, withdrawing affection, distant, cold, disrespect about his mother etc etc.

I would stop this relationship now. It is not healthy at all.

AgathaCrispie · 02/07/2017 12:14

Now I am feeling like a complete mug.

We'll I didn't want to be the one to say this, but...

From the outside, what he's doing is screamingly obvious. The longer you stay with him, the harder it will be for you to see what's going on. Get out NOW. Quietly withdraw yourself and don't get drawn into discussions or excuses. You do not need this.

alpacasandwich · 02/07/2017 12:15

A tip for dumping him: become very boring. Don't engage with his dramatics. He will move on to the next one.

MistressDeeCee · 02/07/2017 12:16

"I am sick of the anxiety that comes with him"

Well thats your answer. Parts of your post seem to be making excuses for his moods. But he just sounds hard work. Arent you tired? Not much of a relationship if you dont know where you are from that day to this. The mental load must be very wearing. If you stay with him just be aware this is your relationship, it isn't going to change so best find coping mechanisms

Pollydonia · 02/07/2017 12:16

Your not a mug, it didn't feel right so you posted on here for opinions. Your stronger than you think Flowers