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I'm leaving him.

542 replies

BitOfANameChange · 24/06/2017 10:30

I've named changed for this; he knows I use MN, although he probably doesn't follow me online.

After 30 years, I've had enough. It's all low level controlling and abusive stuff, which he would certainly deny is abusive. He can be nice at times, especially in public.

But I get treated like a child, told to do this or that. Since the moment I got pregnant I found myself effectively doing all the chores. He'll find some way, all the time, of making an excuse whey he shouldn't be doing them. In particular, his excuse when I was part time for the sake of the children (despite my job at the time being the higher earning potential) was that I had "more time".

I've been reading this board for a long time, and had a slow realisation that a lot of the things described here apply to me in some way. I do come from a dysfunctional family, but they aren't nasty parents, just clueless from their dysfunctions. They love me and my DB dearly, and are loaning me the money to set up in a rental property with the DCs. It's probably no coincidence that DB has also recently come out of an abusive relationship.

'D'P and I never married. He'd divorced his wife when I met him, quite young, and I know now the flags I should have spotted then; badmouthing the ex (who I actually get on well with), the maninuplation by hinting at suicide a couple of times, the depression that somehow allows hime to be an arsehole, etc.

So as we aren't married, the house is in his name, but I ended up being pressured into paying off a chuck of the mortgage with my redundancy payment, "to reduce our costs until you get another job". But he never cut down his mortgage overpayments, cleared the morgage and is now building up his savings, while I have no savings having paid his morgage. I do work now, FT.

The DCs and I walk on eggshells wondering about what mood he'll be in on getting home. Never actually been physically abusive, though. But the incident that started me thinking about the relationship and it's effect on the DCs was late last year, when DC1 and I were in the kitchen with him, and he told her to stop "screaming". She wasn't but her voice can get high when she's excited. She spoke again in that high voice and he yelled at her. She scuttled to the other end of the kitchen before i could intervene and he grabbed her arm hard enough to leave a mark. She's scared of hime now, with good reason. Since then, there's been a little edge of aggression towards her which he doesn't show to our DS. She has bad anxiety and mild depression (been to a doctor) and DS is showing the signs of following suit.

I've always been a comfort eater, and looking back I can see living with him has always raised my stress levels. I'm obese, but instead of being supportive I get constant fat digs from him, including during sex, and he wonders why my libido is dropping. I'm making modifications to my diet and have recently increased my activity levels significantly. I feel better for that.

There are other factors as well, influencing my decision, but going into them could out me.

I realised how much of a crap person he is, and secretly started planning an exit. I've never rented before having straight from parents into his house. But I'm using some of the info gleaned from you lovely people and my application for a little house for me and DCs is progressing well.

I have a cousin with some housing experience, who has given me the name of a good local solitor, so I'm hoping I can get back the money I paid into the house (I do have paper trail). I'm going to be scanning his financial documents when he's out, and saving them to my cloud storage.

I can't talk to him to try and repair this. He'd simply deny abuse, and try to twist it all that it's my fault. Like DD, I'm a little scared of him now.

Sorry, this must seem quite a ramble, but I guess it's because I am finally letting it all out. I'm not expecting anyone to reply, but it's helping me to set it down.

OP posts:
Haffdonga · 06/08/2017 15:46

So he says nice things to the dcs? He's proud of them now?

Good. Very good.

The dcs need to maintain a relationship with him independent of you going forward, and if he's finally saying the things he should have said years ago, that will help them to build that new balance.

And he said nice things to you? Excellent. Enjoy being able to view the blatant manipulation for what it is from a safe distance.

Hubbabubbababy123 · 06/08/2017 15:52

Read thread from start to finish. Well done you. It's an amazing selfless act from you! Escaping an abusive relationship isn't easy. It's emotional, you'll feel guilt. You'll feel have you done the right thing- but I promise you all those feelings go away when you start to get freedom, life will come back. You should be uber proud of yourself. Enjoy having your home, and healing yourself. Begin with some self worth and self love. Your life is beginning now xxx good luck..

robinia · 06/08/2017 16:13

Fantastic news BitOf. You have been amazing.
Be prepared for these next few days/weeks to be the hardest yet as ex battles to get you and the dc back. Remember how he has treated you and them and how it has impacted on all of you. You know you have done the right thing. Stay strong for yourself and your dc.

Greenicicle · 06/08/2017 16:34

At the moment your lovely teens KNOW that when you say something good will happen it DOES happen!
You have made a life improving decision on their behalf; if you allow him to talk you (or them) around, the negative effect on them will be permanent.
Read Kaitlin's earlier post and keep reading it! You always knew this was going to be hard - thinking of you all today.
I expect (d)h is washing his own pants and plotting punishment.

wannabestressfree · 06/08/2017 16:34

You have absolutely done the right thing and your children will thank you for it. Big hugs all round xx

Hidingtonothing · 06/08/2017 18:31

Whatever is going to happen in the future you and your DC need this time, this space to recover from the atmosphere his behaviour has caused and which you've all been living with and suffering for. And he needs that time and space too, if there's any chance of him changing which I doubt he needs to be able to focus on doing the necessary work on himself.

Everything feels strange and unfamiliar right now for you and DC, the new place doesn't feel like home and the urge to run back to what's familiar will be very strong. That feeling will pass and much more quickly than you think, that odd, displaced feeling you have now will be replaced by a series of little revelations as you start to notice all the positive effects of being away from him and before you know it the new house will feel like home and one without the black cloud he created just by being there.

Or you could go back, full of hope that things will be different, only to realise hours, days, weeks if you're really lucky later that nothing has changed and you're back to living under that cloud again without even the hope of escape this time. At the very least you all need to time to recoup and, in his case, to do the work in therapy to change his behaviours although I doubt he will. However nice he is, however many of the things you've been yearning to hear he says he needs to put in the hard yards if he expects you to believe him and even consider giving him another chance. Frankly I hope you won't but it would be understandable if you felt it should be considered.

This initial period will require nerves of steel Bit, for your own sanity I recommend you figure out a way to restrict contact to the absolute bare minimum, he won't give you enough headspace for you to think clearly otherwise and, until you've settled in and stopped feeling terrified by the 'newness' of it all, you are extremely vulnerable to his manipulation. Try to focus on yourself and DC and making the transition to the new house as painless and comfortable as possible and put him to the back of your mind as much as you can.

You've been so brave and strong to get this far, if you can just hold on a little bit longer things will start to get easier Flowers

AcrossthePond55 · 06/08/2017 18:55

The fact that he's ignored your request for space tells you everything you need to know. He sees that his victims have slipped the net and he's panicking. He needs to keep in contact so he can try to manipulate you all back into his trap. Don't respond, it just feeds his belief that he can lure you in and will make him contact you all the more.

Let the children know that they are free to answer or not as they prefer, but that you will not be responding to him. And that they can ignore any pleas he makes for them to intervene with you on his behalf. Because he will eventually resort to that.

Someone who was truly repentant and now understands how wrong their behaviour was would have either not responded or sent a short "I will honour your request and I will not contact you again".

Giraffey1 · 06/08/2017 19:28

You don't know how much to believe?

I think if you read back through this thread you absolutely do know!

He's had 30 years to get it right and act like a decent human being. Now you are in control, not him. Stay strong, remind yourself of the journey you have been on and why you are now in your fab new home.

Block his emails. Read them only when you are ready to do so and feel strong. Ignore him for as long as you need to. Give yourself space, this is YOUR time!

DancingLedge · 06/08/2017 19:37

I came to say the same asGreenicicle:

Read Kaitlin's post.
And reread.
And maybe print out and keep.

There's a stage where it's hard to be strong, in the face of someone who seems how to be offering what you've needed all along.
Seems.
This is hard, and ,for now, you need to keep your anger at how your lovely DC have been affected.Because your anger will stop you getting sucked back in.

It will get easier. And better, and more fun.

Dollypartonsbra · 06/08/2017 20:58

You have been so brave and so strong. Keep being brave and try to be as strong as you can. It will be hard but you have achieved so much and set such an example for your children Flowers

ArchieStar · 06/08/2017 21:15

@BitOfANameChange I've just RTFT and my god you are one amazing woman!!! Another one here rooting for you and your DC, let him try and say what he wants. All 3 of you know better than to listen to his empty words.

You go OP WineCakeFlowers

BitOfANameChange · 07/08/2017 06:06

I'm feeling a bit better this morning and thank you for your posts. I went to bed feeling happy to be in it alone.

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wannabestressfree · 07/08/2017 06:24

You have peace and so do your children. Your own sanctuary. I remember when I left my husband I felt so guilty but it was absolutely the right thing. He still attempts to bully me now but we live (myself and our three sons) in happiness in our own home. We go out when we want to, are spontaneous, have pizza for tea if we like, go on holiday...... no being belittled, no being frightened or walking on eggshells.

You have done the right thing. It will all be ok. You just need time to adjust. Sending hugs. X

Tiredofstruggling1 · 07/08/2017 07:40

Read the thread and you have done the right thing. You could not carry on living as you were and neither could your children.

You need as much of a clean break from him as possible at the moment as he is full of manipulation and control. You know who he really is.

I did the same and got rid. Be prepared for him to start some dirty tricks and stunts, such as trying to allege things about your parenting or have your children taken away and put with him.

BitOfANameChange · 07/08/2017 09:16

I do keep getting a sick feeling in my tum, but I think that is the stress and anxiety I'm feeling. I feel that the peace of being alone in bed spoke volumes. I only woke up because of hot flushes and night sweats, which is normal for me.

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clickhappy · 07/08/2017 10:51

I think it's perfectly normal being in turmoil, it's because you are a caring, loving person, and it seems that part of you is still working, which is important.

Just direct it towards yourself and your babies, and those who want the best for you. You are doing so well. You have reached the top of the mountain. Take a moment and plant the flag x

MerryRealisation · 07/08/2017 19:44

OP, I'm just about two months ahead of you. I didn't leave the family home though as managed to get H to move out. Still not quite sure how I did manage that!
But I felt totally sick for the first three weeks. Tearful, worried, stressed, sad, angry etc etc.
It is really normal to fee like you do. Promise to give yourself at least a month to let things settle.
I am far happier now in such a short space of time. My ex tried to pull out all the stops but it was desperation setting in. I'd given him so many chances. So many.
I didn't think my ex was at all manipulative but take away something that they think they value and they become another person!
Stay strong, you will be fine.

lastrose123 · 07/08/2017 20:44

Hi OP you are doing so well MerryRealisation is right in all that she says but you have done the hardest part now and little by little you will realise he has no power over you now. With the distance you will have between you even if he tries to get to you through the children you will be more able to stand up to him. it is all down hill from here.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/08/2017 22:15

Those aren't hot flushes, they're power surges!!!

You'll be on an emotional roller coaster for a bit, it's completely normal. Just remember and enjoy those peaceful moments. Pretty soon the upset moments will be a memory.

springydaffs · 08/08/2017 00:53

Oh I have to agree that when I left my horrific ex I was all over the place for a good few weeks - about 5 weeks in all iirc. Very jittery and just generally bonkers.

Then the sun came out - bliss!

user1485639128 · 08/08/2017 01:33

Good luck in your new home

BitOfANameChange · 08/08/2017 08:21

Well, I'm still hanging in there, giving the old breakup diet a try. DCs coping by watching lots of videos while we wait for TV/broadband connection. They've got plenty of food and I just got a cheap microwave using nectar points. So all is not lost.

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tiredplusstressed · 08/08/2017 09:52

I think you're doing really well

clickhappy · 08/08/2017 10:23

Well done, it sounds like you have a lot to do. Have you any thoughts of what you're going to say when you eventually have it out with him?

WitchDancer · 08/08/2017 10:29

I'm in admiration of your strength to get you and your children to a safe place. I hope that the coming months and years bring you peace.