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DH loves me, not in love with me and emotional affair

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Miremont · 30/05/2017 15:44

I am a long-term lurker and have only posted on a couple of threads previously to do with my sons' long term illness.

Please bear with me as this may be long but don't want to drip feed. I can't believe I'm writing this about my own life. I am hoping for advice as I feel utterly broken.

DH and I have been together for 26 years, married for nearly 20. We have a DD 13 and 2 DS's 11 and 9. The DS's both have a long-term life-limiting illness which requires a high level of medical intervention. I gave up work to care for them when the youngest was born.

I do all of the housework, ironing, cooking and 90% of stuff with the DC's as well as the care of my DSs.

DH has a history of being selfish and becoming obsessed with his hobbies. He has also let me down on many occasions.

Some examples are -
We struggled to conceive and had fertility treatment for our first 2 DCs. During this time I was very upset and became depressed to the point of feeling suicidal. He told me there was no point talking to him, he doesn't do feelings, talk to someone else.

When DD was 2 weeks old my DM nearly died. He was no support and continued his hobbies as normal.

DD was a difficult baby, cried constantly if she wasn't being fed or moved around and would never take a bottle meaning I was still breastfeeding at the end of my 6 month maternity leave. When I talked to him about the possibility of taking more time off he told me he wasn't going to pay for me to sit around drinking tea.

During the whole first year of her life he went to every football match his team played - home and away (supporter not player) as it might be his only chance to see them in the premier league.

We had a big family party the day before DDs 1st birthday instead of a christening. He went out afterwards and didn't come home - too drunk. I couldn't contact him and after waiting until lunchtime DD and I opened her presents without him.

During all of this time and since the boys were born he continued going out either Friday or Saturday nights getting drunk and many times staying out all night and phoning me to pick him up the next day. This only stopped when his mates started having children and didn't go out anymore.

He has since dropped the football but has took up a new obsession about 10 years ago which takes up much of his time at weekends and involves attending meetings 2-3 evenings per week. At one point he went PT at work to be able to do all this.

A couple of years ago I had to have a lump removed from my neck. This fortunately turned out to be benign but he called me on the ward to see if I knew where some leaflets relating to his hobby were.

There have been other incidents and our marriage reached the point where I no longer had any expectations of him and just considered it a bonus if he helped out or spent time with me and the DCs.

Anytime I have tried to talk to him about how I felt or how tired I was he shut down the discussion with a flippant comment e.g. He needs more sleep than me so has to have lie-ins both weekend days.

I realise that I probably have withdrawn emotionally from him and have not been initiating sex but rather enduring it to keep the peace. Up until recently he seemed happy and we got in well as friends enjoying each other's company while the DCs are at school.

I supported him to make a radical career change a couple of years ago but I realise I may not have given him the emotional support he has needed with aspects of the job.

He has recently been on a couple of works nights out and stayed out all night without contacting me.

About 3 weeks ago he asked me if I was happy which I wasn't because of all the above and I also felt he had been acting strangely for a few months now. He then said he thought we should split and there was no point trying counselling.

This week we have talked further, he delivered the "I love you but I'm not in love with you" bombshell, and eventually I managed to get out of him that he had got emotionally close to someone at work and he was falling in love with her because she was fulfilling an emotional need which wasn't being met in our marriage.

He was then being all nicey, nicey with me but saying it was too hard to say goodbye to her, most of him wanted to stay with me but he needed more time to think. I was v upset remembering the good times and worrying about the children until yesterday when I told him he had to commit 100% to our marriage or it was over. I told him he has always acted selfishly and if he wants to save us he would have to get rid of her and come to counselling. Up until this point he seemed to think that I would either wait around until he made up his mind or we could do counselling with him still seeing her.

Today he is barely talking to me and now I'm thinking maybe I went too far.

Any advice would be gratefully received as I am struggling today. I have no family close by to help out with anything as I moved away from my home town to be with him.

Thank you if you have read this far and please be gentle I am feeling delicate.

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CocoaLeaves · 01/06/2017 07:14

What support do you have in RL? It is one thing to have time emotionally and practically to prepare to leave a marriage; it is quite another to have that to deal with over night. Your insides feel like they have been ripped out because he has confirmed really that he is a selfish man who is putting himself first. He has been doing that for years in practice, though. And that is shit.

I think you need to be quite firm and stick with your original thoughts, which is right now you concentrate on DS2 going into hospital, and do not let him rush you into any decisions about how things will be post separation. At the same time, you need copies of bank statements, paper work relating to any assets etc, and legal and financial advice. Don't agree to anything until you have this, and even then, take your time. Speak to the Citizen's Advice Bureau and also Women's Aid. Make a plan of what you need to do.

Can you access counselling for yourself? You will be happier without him in your life, but if he sails into the sunset to pursue hobbies and 'friendships' you will resent him having that freedom when you don't- no matter how much you love your children. As a previous poster said, he needs to learn to look after his children. Many men step up after separation, but many do not. That is not something you will be in control of; so it is important to make sure you have support emotionally and if possible, practically.

All the best - one day at a timeFlowers

CocoaLeaves · 01/06/2017 07:19

I also should have said, I am sorry - no one wants to find themselves in this situation. But once you have got through this, in time, you will get your life back. It will be difficult but it already is. Yesterday you had a nice day without him there. That is what you are looking towards. That is where you will get to Flowers

Miremont · 01/06/2017 07:26

Thank you. At the moment it feels like I will never be happy again but I look at my friend who has been through similar and she really is thriving whilst her ex seems to have aged by about 10 years since their split.

I know it will take time to grieve but I also know I am strong and I can cope without him.

My family will be very supportive of me and will help out as much as they can. I am fortunate in that they are fairly well off and so can help me financially as well until I get myself sorted.

I don't have a large circle of friends but I can rely on the ones I do have to support me through this.

I still intend to focus on the next 2 weeks with DS2 and then I will start looking at finances and contact CAB.

He seems adamant he will do his fair share with the children but it remains to be seen how that will fit in with his lifestyle.

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Loopytiles · 01/06/2017 07:27

He is a horrible person, isn't he.

Rather than relate with him, suggest you see a counsellor alone, which will be of far more benefit to you, and also a lawyer. There are good threads on MN about preparation for initial (free) consultations with lawyers.

user1474439326 · 01/06/2017 07:52

I think you have done the right thing and maybe a split would give you the push you need to feel happy again. Good luck xx

Miremont · 02/06/2017 07:22

Thank you everyone.

I'm feeling much better today. Been for a run this morning while everyone was still in bed.

I'm starting to see much more now how selfish he is on a day to day basis. He was still in bed when I got back and hadn't even considered getting up and starting treatments.

He's going to have such a shock when he has to start doing all this stuff himself.

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ohfourfoxache · 02/06/2017 08:53

What a nasty prick Angry

You're right, he's going to get a massive shock. And it's not just going to be the shock of looking after the dc, but looking after himself for once is going to be a massive change. Imagine- all his own cooking, cleaning, washing, ironing, shopping? And that's going to be very easy compared to caring for the dc.

This cunt deserves everything he gets

Collidascope · 02/06/2017 09:23

He's not going to know what's hit him, is he? A man who thinks maternity leave is sitting around drinking tea has very little idea of what it is like to run a home and care for children. This split is going to work out much better for you than it is him, OP. Women tend to thrive after divorce. I think he's going to find his life a good deal less comfortable from now on.

troodiedoo · 02/06/2017 09:35

Hey OP Flowers well done for not telling him what he wanted to hear and standing up to him. He sounds awful, I pity the OW.

But forget them. You've got an amazing life waiting for you. Good luck.

PS: doesn't do feelings but he's got emotional support from someone else? Prize twat.

Loopytiles · 02/06/2017 09:40

He should start to do much more for the DC NOW!

picklemepopcorn · 02/06/2017 09:43

I'd start cherishing your 'secret' knowledge of what he has in store for him! Have a little private gloat at the shock he's going to get when he understands what he should have known all along.

Stripyhoglets · 02/06/2017 09:51

Please go and see a solicitor not the cab. With your children's needs and you having to give up work to care for them it is likely that you will be entitled to more than usual from the marriage assets, you need more specialist advice.

Lanaorana2 · 02/06/2017 09:54

OP, I feel sorry for the OW, let alone you. It won't last with her, by the way.

Plan the split so you do as little childcare as you can.

troodiedoo · 02/06/2017 09:58

Yes what Stripyhoglets said!

Miremont · 05/06/2017 07:00

Had a difficult weekend. He was on the phone to OW for over an hour on Saturday evening. All the while I was trying to act normally whilst sorting the DCs out.

He told me it was the "no contact" conversation part 2. She still kept trying to phone him afterwards both on Saturday night and Sunday.

I will be going into hospital later with DS2 and once his 2 weeks of treatment are out the way I will be looking for a solicitor.

I know he will live to regret this but that is no longer my concern.

Thanks to everyone for all your support and giving me the push I need Flowers

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TealStar · 05/06/2017 07:16

Have just read through this whole thread Miremont and wanted to wish you lots of luck. I also feel impelled to say that you sound like such a classy, articulate and kind woman, and you deserve so much better than this. I have a strong feeling that you will emerge triumphant one day. Flowers

Miremont · 05/06/2017 07:28

Thank you for your kind words TealStar. My confidence has taken a real knock over this so it is much appreciated!

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Pleasestoplickingthetv · 05/06/2017 07:30

I don't normally comment on these threads as don't feel I have anything to add, but I'm sat here reading this in disbelief.
I can't believe he thinks this is acceptable!
I'm so so glad you are separating, and no matter how much he begs, please don't take him back.
He will never change, and is so selfish that it will be a HUGE shock to him when he has to do all the stuff you do.
Get yourself sorted, move forwards and create a lovely life for yourself and DC.
The first few months will be shit, but you will look back and wonder why you stayed for so long.
Wishing you lots of luck OP.

Xanadu44 · 05/06/2017 08:12

@Miremont you are amazing. You are bound to feel scared and have a wobble occasionally just ride these out as you've been AMAZING. Let's be honest, you do everything yourself anyway so it will actually make life easier for you not having to worry or stress about your husband!

Just keep strong, definitely see a solicitor and get the best advice you can for you and your DC. I really wish you the best and will be thinking of you. I think you sound insanely strong and amazing and I know you'll be fine. Your husband on the other hand won't but that's his own problem. Good on you and welcome to the rest of your life. You deserve a good one and I just know you'll get it! FlowersFlowersFlowers

Ledkr · 05/06/2017 09:05

Sometimes them meeting someone else is a blessing as it ends a toxic relationship and allows you to begin a much nicer life.
This happened to me after 18 years with a selfish prick and I literally give thanks every day that it happened.
I was 38 when he left and by 40 I was remarried to an amazing kind gorgeous man with whom I have the life I'd always wanted.
My ex is with the woman he left for and they have 4 kids, no money and he continues to act as he always did with me and she is stuck in a drab little house with four small children.
She not only got my man but she got my hideous unfulfilling life as well.

Miremont · 05/06/2017 22:04

Thanks for sharing your story Ledkr. I'm glad things worked out for you.

It's great to know there is a better life on the other side of this.

DS2 didn't start treatment today after all as there was no bed for him. He's going in next week now. He's not happy as he wanted to get it over and done with and DS1 who has autistic traits had a meltdown because it wasn't what he was expecting for today.

All adding to the stress levels!

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