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My DH is tearing my heart apart

98 replies

Oldwiseone · 16/05/2017 00:09

Hi and thank you to anyone who takes the time to read this.

I have been with my DH for 24 years, married for 18 years. We have 7 children together and one who died as a baby.

He was 21 when we met and very childish. He would run telling tales to his parents on a daily basis. Always making himself sound like a poor victim.

When I look back to our early years I wonder why the heck I stayed with him. I guess I was young and in love. But he would do strange things, like make me get out his car and wait for him when he would go into different places. Like a fool I used to do it.

When we would be out he would stare at other women saying 'you should try and look like her'. I mean, WTF?! If anyone treated my kids that way I would tell them to find someone who respected them for who they were.

We had our first child together before we married. He was still living at home and would never stay a full night with me and his son. He always said 'my mum will miss me'. 🙄 It got to the point that I ended our relationship. It was going nowhere. He would spend his days at work, his evenings with us and then go 'home' and leave me todo all the night feeds. I wanted real commitment for both myself and our son.

He came and stuck a note through my door saying 'marry me'. I said yes. We got married 12 months later and that was the first night he spent with us.

Fast forward to present day. We have a houseful of kids. None of us see him family, only him. My kids do not know any of them. Why? Because those childish stories he would tell never stopped. He runs and tells them EVERYTHING. Actually, he out and out lies. He uses me as an excuse when he doesn't want to do something. I won't let him. I control him. I make his life a misery. And they are like 'oh my poor darling'. He visits them and comes back running them down. It's like he needs everyone's pity.

He gets all his mail sent to his mums house. Always has. When I say how strange that is he says 'I will change that one day'. I have no idea how much he earns, who he banks with, any debts he has. It's all secret. Only his 'family' know that.

He not only lies about me, he lies to me. Stupid stuff. But he will look me in the eye and say 'I swear on your life, I swear on the kids lives, that I am telling the truth' and he isn't.

I caught him out in a stupid lie a couple years ago. His sister invited him round. He didn't want to go. So he lied to her saying I wouldn't let him. He didn't know that I knew she had contacted him and he swore blind he hadn't heard from her. He swore on my life. Told me I had trust issues. When I then said 'I actually heard your conversation. I know you are lying' he told me I was out of order hearing him and making it seem like I hadnt so he would look bad by lying.

He ended up walking out on me and the kids for 3 months. He made no effort to see me or to try and work things out. I felt abandoned.

He saw the kids for 5 hours a week (on a Sunday) and other than that had no contact. I was left trying to keep our crazy busy house together (our youngest was 4 months old) and comfort our confused children.

We eventually talked. He said sorry. Begged to come back. Said he would never lie to me again.

He did. Lots.

So now things are just like before. His lies. His secrets. His family being told lies about me. Him saying 'if you ever talk to my Mum that will be us over'.

Then a few hours after saying that he says 'why are you in a mood? You are mad'.

I am scared at the thought of doing it alone. I saw first hand how broken my kids were. And they matter most. But I also dread every day. Knowing he will go out of his way to piss me off.

We are sleeping separate. He sleeps with earplugs in so if any kids wake in the night he can't see or hear.

I just don't know what to do anymore. Ignore his lies and secrets for the kids?

He laughs and says how nobody else would want me with all the kids. But that he can have a single life if he left. He will walk around smirking singing 'nobody would have you. You are stuck with me or nobody' over and over.

Just after a bit of comfort and someone to vent to.

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anon1987 · 16/05/2017 12:55

Op you can either sit around and wait and hope that he'll somehow magically change,
Or you can cut your losses and go through the healing process now.

From what you've written, it doesn't sound like he'll ever change, you'll go round in circles until you are a fragment of who you once were.
Out there is a man who is kind and caring and would love to have you!.
Think of all the billions of men out there, there must be one that would dream of having a women like you.
He has emotionally and financially abused you, none of this is your fault!.

If you don't feel you have the strength to end it for good, at least get some counselling and look into ways of rebuilding your own personal life and self worth.

You may find that after counselling, arranging a few nice things to do for just you, and a Bit of self love, that you'll have the strength to end it and wondered why on earth you didn't do it sooner.

As for your fears of coping with him possibly meeting someone else, yes that's a painful thought (I get that completely!) but you'll be surprised how well you can cope.
You need to create an imaginary box, where you can store your emotions thoughts and feelings away.

When my partner and I had a 6 month split ( before we had children) I did just that, I buried my head to ignore the flashes of him possibly being with someone else and got myself out there and went on a date etc and concentrated on me,

Try listening to some positive music, podcasts, meditations etc they really do help.

Whatalready · 16/05/2017 13:11

How old are your children?
Don't the older ones grumble about him?
My dad stayed with my mum thinking we needed her. In actual fact it was a relief to get rid of her. She lied, had many affairs, was selfish about her own needs and miserly about us. If she hadn't gone i would have left home at the earliest opportunity. In other words, your children may want him gone. If some are teenagers you can talk to them. Why don't you ask? You do need someone there who is on your side. You need moral support. My dad never looked back! He had a great time with just the three of us.

LaLegue · 16/05/2017 13:14

He does just hand me cash each week.

Are the bills/tenancy/whatever all in your name then? Dose he even officially live there? Or does he take care of everything in his own name and just drip feed you money when you need it for food shopping etc?

Oldwiseone · 16/05/2017 13:32

Thank you. Xx

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Oldwiseone · 16/05/2017 13:35

The tenancy and bills are in my name. Only the virgin media account is in his name.

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JaneEyre70 · 16/05/2017 13:43

Pack his bags and send him home to mummy. How can even think there is anything worth saving in this relationship? He's a drip and you deserve better, so do your kids. You're effectively a single parent, just make it official.

Peanutbutterrules · 16/05/2017 15:02

Jesus OP that sounds awful!

Send him back to his toxic family and build a new happier life for yourself.

Allconsumingshitstorm · 16/05/2017 15:10

Ok you cannot change the past. But don't waste one more day on this man. Draw a line. Look after your kids. Start living life for yourself.

Allabitmuchisntit · 16/05/2017 17:09

This has made me cry op.
Please leave him.

NettJarrp · 16/05/2017 17:13

Gosh, why on earth did you have so many DC with him? Your resources must be so stretched!

I agree with others, you must leave him.

WelshMoth · 16/05/2017 18:06

What's your plan, OP?

springydaffs · 16/05/2017 18:29

You know those cults you hear about where seemingly perfectly sane and intelligent people live in sometimes a residential house with a completely controlling batshit nutter? But they can't see it bcs said nutter has slowly slowly woven a web around them - using fear. Fear is the currency people (I use that term loosely with regard to him) like this use to keep their targets in prisoned place. You could walk away at any moment, there are no bars on the doors or window's. But you are afraid.

Do the Freedom Programme. It is wonderful and it is free. Look at their site, click 'find a course' to find a course near you - go! Many offer free childcare.

Women's Aid will recommend the Freedom Programme when you contact them - look on the Women's Aid website to find your local WA office (easier to get through than the national helpline 0808 2000 247).

You need to contact these orgs bcs you need support and the experts behind you. You will get support from these orgs who have extensive experience in supporting those of us who have been caught in this controlling and abusive prison at home. At the FP you will also meet other ordinary lovely women caught in the same trap. WA offers legal and practical support and advice. These people are the experts. Don't delay, contact them at your earliest (don't tell him tho - it's important you give yourself the space to work this out yourself).

You /we need the support of these orgs bcs it's so hard to do it alone. I dread to think where I'd be without them. They helped me years ago and I'm still overjoyed to be free.

You're not the only one op. Many of us have been in a similar relationship. It is likely you will receive legal aid bcs the domestic abuse in your marriage is so clear cut. You and the kids will also get a very good percentage of the marital assets - I think you will be pleasantly surprised once you get to a lawyer to see what you will be entitled to (WA will give you a list of lawyers in your area. It is likely you will also get a WA support worker to hold your hand and guide you through the process) . It's not you who will be living with lack.

Listen to pp's - your kids are being damaged by this awful man. Do it for them if you find it hard to do it for yourself.

You can do it Stanley Flowers

springydaffs · 16/05/2017 18:31

(don't listen to the shaming posters re why did you have 8 kids with him blah blah. They have no idea. You have nothing to be ashamed of)

OliviaPopeRules · 16/05/2017 18:37

He is an absolute bastard, please throw him out. You would be better spending the next 500 years on your own with the kids than another 5 minutes with him.

hollyisalovelyname · 16/05/2017 18:52

Why did you have 7 children with this 'man' ?
AnyF's advice is spot on.
Get out now.
He lies to you.
He lies to his family.

NettleTea · 16/05/2017 18:53

you worry about the practicalities, but you have 7 kids, thats a huge back up. Your oldest is old enough to look after the others if there was an emergency. I cant see that your stbx (Im being positive here) would help in any way to be honest - he doesnt even want to feed them.

kick his lardy arse out. And get those divorce papers summoned. With 7 kids at least he is going to be paying you a good whack for CM. Is he employed or self employed, because if its employed you are soon going to find out what he earns, and if there is anything in the bank, well, thats half yours.

And I would write a nice letter to his mum too. Really polite. Tell her you are so sorry she has no contact, but its come to light that he has been lying with most terrible lies about her to keep you from her as much as she has been kept from you and her grandchildren. You dont need to mean it, but it sure will piss in his pot

nigelsbigface · 16/05/2017 19:09

He sounds like he has some sort of mental health issue-personality disorder perhaps?
You are doing your self and more importantly your kids no favours by allowing him to treat you this way.
I never say LTB really-but in this case...

PrettyGoodLife · 16/05/2017 19:10

Sometimes I read threads and think the baying of LTB seems premature, but this is so sad I can't see any room for middle ground. You deserve so very much better. Your children deserve a better model of a relationship based on love and respect. Things must change! It will be tough, but if you are prepared you CAN do it.
Get your head around it, take advice (financial, legal etc) and think long term. Flowers Good luck!

ashley0710 · 16/05/2017 20:08

Hey Smile
I understand why you stayed I did too, I have 3 dc
Was the hardest thing I've ever done I'm still in pieces I'm only 3 weeks in, I don't know if I'll ever actually heal all the things that was said and done over the years play through my mind constantly
It's tough on my youngest 2 and really tough having to support them whilst being in such a mess myself but I couldn't take anymore
Even though I'm now a single mum to 3 and on my arse financially too
I've promised myself no matter what he's said and done or will do I won't let him smash my spirit
I wish I could offer you some great advise that would make it easier for you but the only one I have is to pack his bags and tell him to sling it.
7 kids or 70 and being skint and single is tough but in time you will heal
Be kind to yourself now and end it go through months of pain instead of a life time
You spent to long being unhappy
What have you got to lose?
Best of luck xx

FatOldBag · 16/05/2017 20:30

Imagine your daughter being in this exact situation. What would you advise her? Please get rid of this horrible, horrible man.

Misstic · 16/05/2017 20:37

My heart breaks for you. Please leave this man. Your story us so very sad. You have many years ahead of you. Break free and enjoy a real life with your kids and your freedom.

SandyY2K · 16/05/2017 20:44

You made a mistake marrying him based on all the red flags. Staying with him, will be an even bigger mistake and waste of your time on earth.

It doesn't sound like he ever stopped lying, yet you stayed and had more and more children, which will obviously only make leaving more daunting.

He still has mail going to his home address!

Your children don't have a relationship with his family!

I'd be worried that he's leading a double life and wants to keep you away from his family.

If it were me, I would take those 7 children to meet their grandparents without telling him.

I guarantee you that it will be an eye opener.

Do you really know who you're married to?

Your husband either has a serious problem or he has something to hide.

I'd start some investigating... Pretty damn quick.

girlcanthelpit · 16/05/2017 20:45

Omg! I think you should leave as soon as possible. Get your ducks in a row first. How is it you've been married and don't have all that information about his earnings? No joint account in 24 years ?
But, guess what? You have made the first step by writing here. You need to live for you.
Enjoy your life for you. He doesn't deserve you and you cannot give him anymore of your time!Flowers

Kevinbaconsrealwife · 16/05/2017 20:46

We are the same age OP.....I'm beyond sad for you....I honestly can't think what else to add that hasn't been said by PP,s just please have a tiny bit of faith in yourself and kick that utter wanker out before you become a total and utter shell ...all the best to you and your children X

Oldwiseone · 16/05/2017 21:21

Thank you all so much. It really means a lot that you have taken the time to read and reply to me.

I do know I have to leave him. I deserve so much more than this. We all do. I think I just needed to hear others tell me that it's the right thing to do.

Ashley0710. I am so sorry that you are going through this too. Please do send me a PM if you ever need to vent. Stay strong!!!

I will update you all in a few days to let you know what's happening.

Thank you again xx

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