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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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nigelsbigface · 22/05/2017 22:24

He is a proper divvy though op. I know it hurts now and more than that you must been in the blackest of rages and no wonder...but you will be better off for this in the long run-because who will look at him in the same way now if he continues to act like such a cunt? He's exposed himself very publicly as being despicable.And what sort of a person must this woman be? It will come back to bite him on the arse by which time you will have moved on to far better things.
Flowers

backscratcher · 22/05/2017 22:36

From what I've found out about the OW (obsessively trawling through FB, Instagram, Twitter and forcing my sis to recount every minute detail she knows about her) she's a couple of years younger than me, 2 kids, was single (when not shagging other people's boyfriend's in Premier Inns) and works as admin in the local hospital. No idea how he met her. No idea how long he has known her for. No idea what he has told her about me. She obviously knew about me though considering her shitty comment on my sister's tag that night and then unfriending my sister.
I've typed out so many messages to her on FB but obviously haven't sent them. I know, I know that's it's him that betrayed me, but still...
Of course, I've typed out even worse shittier messages to him.

I am eating, thanks. Eating too much - have gone down the comfort eating route. Asda are doing tubs of Haagen Daaz for 2 quid which is doing me no good - currently sitting here with a tub of salted caramel which I have no doubt I shall finish.

I am going to send the message of 'collect your stuff or they will be disposed of on such and such a date.' But not tonight because I don't want him to think I'm sitting here all maudlin (I am). I'll send it in the afternoon as a breezy afterthought...
He's got clothes here, a TV, laptop, games console, all his paperwork, all his stuff for his hobby, personal stuff etc so I can't see that he could just leave it or would be happy for to be binned. I really do think he's terrified of having to face me and having to face up to what a shitty shitty individual he is.
But if he hasn't collected the stuff by such and such a date then I will definitely be getting rid of it.

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ellephant · 22/05/2017 22:41

I really feel for you OP. Just a thought, you might want to change the locks on your house door so that he can't come grab his things while you're out. Stay strong and forget the bastard, you're worth so much more Flowers

Reow · 22/05/2017 22:51

List his cherished hobby gear on eBay and send him the links to the listings.

That'll shit him up. Smile

Smeaton · 22/05/2017 22:58

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ItsNachoCheese · 22/05/2017 23:02

Id sell his stuff if he doesnt come back for it

UnicornSparkles1 · 22/05/2017 23:11

You are acting with such dignity and class. I'm honestly in awe of you.

I'd have burned his shit on a big bonfire and posted the ashes to his parents in a jiffy envelope

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 23/05/2017 06:52

Don't sell his stuff for £1: sell it for the full value obtainable. Then buy something nice for yourself, DD too.

I'm of the school of thought that if (as I suspect) 'twere you and your nice, regular, non-cocklodgy income wot bought all that hobby stuff, you get to decide what to do with it. I agree that you give him a reasonable amount of time to collect if you really want to be legal fair, but if he's going to be a ghosting shit who doesn't even have the stones to talk to you, are you really going to get much of a fight off him?

Shayelle · 23/05/2017 07:06

I dont think he ever thought in a million years it would blow up in his face like this. You will get thru this op. Thank goodness you saw that text xx

daisychain01 · 23/05/2017 07:52

Be the bigger (and more dignified) person than him.

It's all very well people saying sell his stuff on eBay, but if you do that, you'd have to suffer the consequences. That's his stuff, you don't have a right to sell his belongings.

BillyButtfuck · 23/05/2017 09:54

Can you find out her address and send all of his things there?

NeedATrim · 23/05/2017 11:26

Nah don't do that - its convenient for him to have his stuff turn up at OWs house. He's obviously scared of OP which is why he's avoiding her. He should have only two options. If he wants his belongings, face OP. If not then tough tit, she does as she pleases with it all and he never see it again.

donajimena · 23/05/2017 12:47

Charge him storage! Seriously though it has to go. It will be upsetting the finality but it will accelerate the healing process once the final bit of the plaster has been ripped off.
You are amazing op.

mustiwearabra · 23/05/2017 12:56

The cheek of the OW commenting on the picture of your sister's birthday dinner. Brazen hussy personified. Eat all the ice cream you want. You're still in shock mode and it'll only have been added to by the fact that he's already "in a relationship" Hmm which is clearly built on such strong foundations...

Big hugs and cheers to getting rid of bad rubbish Wine

backscratcher · 23/05/2017 15:43

Well I did it.
Sent him a text and an email message basically saying if your stuff isn't collected by 5pm on Sunday I will be disposing of it myself.
He replied to my text straight away saying "How's DD?" Hmm
I haven't replied. If the fucker thinks he's going to open a dialogue by appealing to my better nature (ie the one that's connected with DD) then he has another thing coming.

Feeling odd today - as I'm sure most of us are given recent events in Manchester.
It's a cruel world.

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Patsy99 · 23/05/2017 16:32

He really is horrible and cowardly.

And you kick arse, you've dealt with this amazingly.

The Manchester attack is so upsetting, I agree about feeling odd and disoriented today.

noova61 · 23/05/2017 17:22

Ive felt sad all day..those poor children.
You've done the right thing sending a txt...dont enter dialogue with him about anything else except his crap at your place and certainly not your DD.

Shayelle · 23/05/2017 17:31

Manipulative bastard. Your DD isnt any of his business anymore.

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 23/05/2017 17:57

What a fuxking arse. If he in any way cares about how your DD was he wouldn't have done any of this to you.
Grrrrr my blood is boiling for you.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 23/05/2017 18:00

He's a shit.

You could reply. 'She's fine considering, how are the new step children?'

UnicornSparkles1 · 23/05/2017 18:24

Absolutely the right thing to do. Do not enter into a dialogue with him. You have stated your deadline for him to collect his shit, and he has inadvertently confirmed receipt of the message by replying.

Mix56 · 23/05/2017 19:30

Well, surprise , he is showing, after how many days, interest in DD ??
Stonewall the cheating PA fucker.
If he wants his stuff, up to him to organise it now.
it may well be the OW is not all he hoped & she may not be up for live in lover, let them both sit like pigs in their own shit

DancingGoose · 23/05/2017 21:24

Don't reply. It's a mind game to make you feel vulnerable again, to undermine the strength you are now showing him through your text/email

(Even if you're not feeling strong inside, he doesn't know that - he can only go by your actions).

You will not feel better if you reply.

Mustang27 · 23/05/2017 21:55

Yeah because he gave a shit about your DD when he was off with his ow. I'm so glad you came back to let us know you are doing ok. It's awful what he has put you and your wee one through and it's shocking that he hasn't even the balls to face you.

My dad did that to my mum after 30yrs just didn't come home from work one night, we found out he was in a car half way across the country with a woman he had dated in school, they had reconnected through FB Hmm. He still has never once tried to discuss anything with her just left all his shit, it was like his life with her just didn't matter anymore.

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/05/2017 23:03

Well he cant later claim that he didnt get your message can he? So if for no other reason, its good that he replied.

I agree that ignoring is the way to go. Except to perhaps resend the original "You have until Sunday" text to make your position crystal clear.