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French Martini Bastard

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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 21/05/2017 16:33

I agree with putting him on notice that he has 14 days to collect his stuff or you will dispose of it as you see fit. Then if there is anything worth selling you can flog it, and dump the rest.

If he has had notice and doesnt collect then you are covered but if you just dump it then you could end up in trouble, although tbh I very much doubt you would but better to be safe than sorry.

I wouldnt want to be his new "GF" right now. You had a man you trusted because you had no reason not to, she has a man who she knows will lie through his teeth and cheat the first chance he gets. What a prize Hmm

knorrig · 21/05/2017 16:45

Unbelievable re Facebook! When my exH left me many years ago one of his priorities was de friending me and changing his status to single...less than 24 hours later and I still hadn't told most of my friends and family.

I asked how he thought that made me feel when he begged for forgiveness and to take him back 2 months later. We were fucking married...I didn't forgive and he became my exH not too long later!

Good luck OP, horrible thing to go through but you will survive.

MerlinEmrys · 21/05/2017 16:56

What a prick. Sorry this happened to you OP.

As for her, well he'll likely do it to her as well so let's look forward to that day x

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 21/05/2017 19:13

Thanks for the update, Backscratcher and I agree that you're in a much better place than you could have been. Imagine if you hadn't seen that text and then were clever enough to rope in the vipers - imagine how long he would have jerked you around, spending family cocklodging money and putting your physical and mental health in jeopardy. Imagine how long he would have continued to lie to you.

You rock! Flowers

littleredpear · 21/05/2017 19:49

Lots of love to you backscratcher. Remember in your other thread all the things you told us about him?

Keep them front and centre. He's a shit, you found this out now. You have a long happy life ahead of you.

Good luck and you will be happier soon, it happens Flowers

SirVixofVixHall · 21/05/2017 19:55

Bloody hell. When was he going to tell you? Never? Thank goodness you saw that text. You could have wasted more precious time with that tosspot. I'm glad to see your updates as I was wondering how you were doing. I'm so sorry that you've been treated so horribly. Flowers Gin Cake . You will look back and be glad you found out though, when you are with some lovely and far more deserving man.

Alpies · 21/05/2017 21:05

Wonder where he is staying? He prob hasn't collected his stuff yet as he was nowhere permanent. Using u as free storage space. Prob working on moving in with the new girl seeing as she is dumb enough to think he wouldn't do the same thing to her. Karma! Breathe and u shall see x

ProphetOfDoom · 21/05/2017 21:13

Dump his stuff off at work or give him 48hrs to collect it from the front of the house/garden/shed. Nothing like a tonne of man-crap to add to the romantic ambiance.

noova61 · 21/05/2017 22:39

Write him a letter or send an email (as proof) and give him 7/10days to remove all his stuff or it will be disposed of. If he doesnt take it then you are covered.We had to do this when my daughters exp left her. We were told that if we didnt tell him then anything got rid of we would be expected to replace at full cost. You can also pack it up and take to his his place or work. So sorry this happened but better its happened now than when youve had chidren to him..Good Luck...xx

PyongyangKipperbang · 21/05/2017 23:00

Noova is right, and you also need to give him "reasonable" time to collect it. So 48 hours could be considered unreasonable if he hasnt got a permanent home and needs to arrange storage for example. But a week to a fortnight would be fine.

Do you have a friend that is still on his FB? IF so then you could ask them to forward the message to him as being from you, then you will have proof that he has read it, so there will be no comeback if he doesnt collect his stuff and then he wants it after you have disposed of it.

nigelsbigface · 22/05/2017 07:01

I wouldn't box the stuff up.why should you have extra work? As op said message him giving him a week to collect it and if not chuck it all.

How is your dd?

You have done so well op-I just can't believe his behaviour Angry

Mix56 · 22/05/2017 07:18

That is such a number Backscratcher. What a sorry little dick he is, he hasn't even had the balls to come home to face you, or say goodbye.
On the upside I suppose, your DD will have had a lucky escape of not being left by him when she is older. but it must be a low punch & I hope you recover soon.
I would send the woman a message, saying he has until Wednesday to collect any belongings he hopes to recover, or its trashed.

Oblomov17 · 22/05/2017 07:37

Blimey OP. He is quite brazen with the FB, isn't he? So very sorry.

SandyY2K · 22/05/2017 08:48

I admire you firm decisive, no nonsense approach. He knew that you wouldn't accept his cheating and decided instead to gaslight the hell out of you.

To the extent of trying to make you believe that Dave was in your imagination.

You deserve better than this worthless, cheating man.

Thank God you didn't have any kids with him, or you'd still have to be seeing him.

MrsMozart · 22/05/2017 19:48

Oh bollox. I'd hoped for the right ending for you lass.

backscratcher · 22/05/2017 20:08

Thanks everyone for your kind comments, and sorry that I've been rubbish at coming back and addressing questions - your support really has been invaluable to me.
I am just so majorly fucked off. Absolutely devastated by it all.

I know, with hindsight, that there was things wrong and that he was clearly taking a loan of me, but I didn't mind that. He may have financially been a bit of a cocklodger, but he was so passionate about his 'hobby/wanna-be business' and he did pull his weight around the house, and helped care for my DD with no issues at all. I thought we had a great relationship - rarely argued - but then again he avoided confrontation at all costs anyway Hmm... This has completely blindsided me, and he's just fucking ghosted me. That's what he's fucking done! Ghosted me after 3 years, and because he doesn't want the confrontation. And I have felt so fucking humiliated telling family and friends what he has done. Especially because I still don't know what he has done exactly. (Obviously I know enough).

I know you will all tell me that it doesn't matter and that I don't need to know the details, but I want to know how long it was going on, was he planning on telling me and leaving me, why did he do it?

The mutual friend I met him through is shocked that he has done this. She has said that french martini woman has been tagging him in pictures of them together ... Friend doesn't know where he is living. It won't be at his parents though as they live in another city too far from work. Or, if she does know where he's living then she isn't telling me... I haven't wanted to ask her too much (beg her for details...) because I've been trying to maintain a modicum of dignity whilst I'm with other, and saving my crying and my 'I fucking hate you, you cunting cunt'ing's for when I'm alone.

My DD is ok. I haven't really told her much because what do you tell a 6 year old?- other than that we've had some problems and that he's moved out. She's cried and been upset and asks for him, but she's far more resilient than I am.

When I told her father what had happened, he went into a tirade about what an idiot he was, how he'd never trusted him...(!!) and that I deserved better than that, until I gave him a withering look and reminded him that he was in no position to talk. Pot, kettle, black.

Onwards and upwards, eh?

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UrsulaPandress · 22/05/2017 20:15

Dear god what an absolute tosser. I wonder what his long term plan was?

Underthemoonlight · 22/05/2017 20:24

I've been there op and as much as you want to know the details its something that's unlikely to happen. He has shown his true colours and those that will know both of you will see through it. As for the OW she can spent her lovely time looking over her shoulder when he's had his fun and his eyes start wandering. Flowers

user1466690252 · 22/05/2017 20:53

my ex husband did this to me whilst I was 8 montha pregnant. its been 6 years and we havn't seen him since. The not knowing and ghosting had a profound effect on my mental health, until I realised it did not change anything and I had no control over it. you will find peace of mind. I got stronger, happier and found a better relationship with myself and my new partner (now DH) It does get better. You have done amazingly

Alpies · 22/05/2017 21:55

Being ghosted is hard to deal with. A therapist told me the best approach is to sit down and write all ur feelings everyday and look back in a month's time. If it helps write him a letter, pour all ur thoughts into but BUT DONT POST IT! Put the letter in a box, close that chapter and try to focus on the positive.

Good luck and big hug x

NeedATrim · 22/05/2017 22:01

Ahhh love, I understand. The ghosting you means he's pretty much denied you your chance to vent, spill, let loose and question. But you never know, he may still make an appearance yet. Slink up one day like a shifty stray tom.
Are you eating?

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 22/05/2017 22:02

OP I truly am sorry for what you're going through and think you have been incredible.

There's a quote from Mary Oliver that has meant a lot to me which I feel you might take something from:

Someone I loved once gave me a box full of darkness. It took me years to understand that this too, was a gift.

ohfourfoxache · 22/05/2017 22:11

Vent away backscratcher - just let it out.

He can't be a cunt: he lacks the depth and warmth.

I'm not surprised you're completely blindsided. I mean, who the actual fuck behaves like he has done? He really is the absolute fucking scum of the earth.

Accept any and all support offered to you, don't worry about responding to anyone either in RL or online if you don't want to, and concentrate on you and your dd. Nothing else matters now Thanks

Reow · 22/05/2017 22:16

You're being amazingly strong and restrained OP. I'm very impressed.

I would have made a bonfire with his belongings and sent him the video.

What a cowardly little cunt he is.

Can you afford to book a lovely shirt haul long weekend for you and your daughter, somewhere sunny? You deserve a nice break I think.

SoftlyCatchyMonkey1 · 22/05/2017 22:17

Fucking hell!!!! What a prick!!!
You must fucking sick with rage!
Sorry OP. Amazed the OW tolerates such an evident wanker.
People never cease to amaze me.
Flowers