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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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nigelsbigface · 23/05/2017 23:13

Thinking of you op-how date he ask after your daughter? Twaaaat.

Atenco · 23/05/2017 23:16

This seems to be the problem with non-confrontational men. Instead of sorting the day to day problems in a relationship, they act as if there is nothing wrong and then run away. I'm so sorry this has happened to you, OP, but it is frankly his loss, he lost a good 'un.

Paperdoll16 · 24/05/2017 07:13

Well done on sending that text.

There's no doubt that he will be missing your DD and that's why he's tried to take the opportunity to ask about her straight away. However, he should have thought about that before jumping straight into another 'family!'

I would also want to know how long and when he planned on telling you etc. Especially as you were TTC. Imagine if you had got as far as being pregnant and he was carrying on. Knowing that you've been through this before. Horrible man.

Much love to you and your DD Flowers

newnameoldme · 24/05/2017 10:37

oh op the speed that this all happened is mental, you went from a text to complete loss of relationship in a matter of hours. i can understand your devestation. i just wanted to send my sympathy as i've some experience in this kind of hell.

the ghosting - suddenly nothing is horrendous but believe me it could be so much worse, the other scenario where the lying shit messes with you for weeks or months making promises, telling a web of lies, that can send a person bonkers and derail yours and your dd life.

your ex will have told the ow a load of lies and any questions you ask him will be replied with more lies. i hope when he picks up his stuff he can give you enough of an answer to why so that you can close the chapter on him and start to be glad that at least you haven't wasted any more years on him.

now is the time to take care of you, vent and cry here and to your sister and go forward and be fabulous. you're free of that assclown, undiminished and the best revenge is to have a better life without him

backscratcher · 24/05/2017 11:59

Paperdoll16 - I actually don't think he ever intended on telling me, or ever intended for me to find out. I think the fact that I did had forced his hand, and because he's a coward and because he didn't want to face me, he just fucked off. Perhaps he meant to string the both of us along all the time, or perhaps she was just intended as a bit on the side... He had it so good with me so I can't see why he would have left.
I know I keep saying this, but I really didn't see it coming.
He text me again at 11pm saying "I know i'm probably the last person you want to hear from but I hope you're ok. Give DD a squeeze from me x"

And I know people keep saying how well I'm doing and how strong I am but I don't feel it. I was fuelled by anger at first, but now I'm just heartbroken and lonely and I really, really miss him. Or the person that I thought he was and the relationship that I thought we had. I want back what I thought I had. There are times when I wish I'd just ignored that text that night - when I wish all this hadn't happened and I was still blissfully ignorant of what a cheating cowardly cunt he is.

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Underthemoonlight · 24/05/2017 12:06

I always say when you break up with someone you love it's a grieving process first anger denial then the sinking feeling of what if and guilt. You know you deserve better and it would have come out further down the line if you ignored your gut instinct. It may not seem it now but it will get better even though it sounds so clinche and you don't think it ever will it just does slowly say by day. Don't let him worm his way back in. He's been very quick to go public with his "new" romance.Flowers

HouseworkIsASin10 · 24/05/2017 12:46

The grass is never greener.

He will come crawling back at some point but you need to be strong. He doesn't deserve your love.

You deserve to be with somebody who adores and loves you. Somebody who wouldn't dream of looking at another woman.

Laurenannxo · 24/05/2017 12:59

You are 100% better off without him! I know what you mean about missing him but just to reassure you for every 1 arsehole there are probably about 20 other decent guys out there who would NEVER even dream about doing this to you!! And as for that text, I've been the one to send that text when I've broken up with an ex before (mutual agreement but I ended things, ended up missing him a few days later and sending him a text very similar saying I hope he was ok etc) and it was because I missed him and wanted him back. Maybe that's what he's feeling but I wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. He sounds like a proper arsehole.

Chickenagain · 24/05/2017 13:04

Save yourself for someone who truly deserves you. Don't waste your life on this total prat. He wasn't the man you thought he was - that person doesn't exist. He has betrayed you, destroyed your trust in men, used you and now he is trying to manipulate you.
I wrote down all my feelings when my EXP and I split and when I read it back now, it seems so odd & mildly shocking. Who was that broken woman, searching for the "What did I do wrong?"
The answer was - nothing at all.
You can't change him or the situation, but you can change how you react. Take each day as it comes, go & do things he has not wanted to do - and enjoy the rest of your life. Like the fury, the sadness & missing is a phase you have to go through to come out to the other side.
Flowers

Spadequeen · 24/05/2017 13:18

What an absolute arse.

You are stronger than you know. The fact that you are able to see that you miss the person you thought he was rather than him says so much.

And how dare he bring your dd into this. He gave up the right to talk about her when he cheated

memyselfandaye · 24/05/2017 13:31

I'd do a factory reset on his laptop for starters.

Msqueen33 · 24/05/2017 13:40

What an absolute prick! I'm so sorry. You must be devastated. Especially if it's out the blue. Sometimes men don't need a lot and a good ego stroke is what they're after. You've been amazing. I wouldn't enter into a text dialogue as he's trying to soften you up. If he'd been a nice guy he'd never have let it get this far.

backscratcher · 24/05/2017 13:46

memyselfandfaye - believe me, I've tried to get into his laptop Blush but I don't know the password.

I've sent a message back just saying that he'll need to let me know when he is coming to pick up his stuff so that I can arrange access for him and reiterating that it'll be gone by 5pm Sunday.
I think I'll arrange for my sister or my parents to be there instead of me.
It's DD's weekend with her dad again so I think I'll try to arrange to go out and do something with family or friends, rather than sitting in by myself and moping.

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annielouise · 24/05/2017 13:48

I think it was a bit on the side and your forced his hand. He's trying to open a dialogue with you now to gauge whether he can come creeping back. He should be a poker player the way he's playing this. Not even an apology or explanation. He's doing it this way so you'll make it easy for him to come back. Making you miss him so you'll give him another chance. He's vacated the scene leaving a void that you're filling with upset and feelings of loss. If he had come round you could have divested your anger on him, fuelling it, been allowed to weigh up his bullshit. As you say, you've been left with no closure. He's ghosted you effectively, waiting for you to choose the pick me dance. I doubt he's at hers. Surely not if she's got 2 kids.

Give it time. I think he'll soon give a more proper reaction when you don't respond. He's leaving a void for you to respond but you're doing it to him too by not reacting. See what he does next (which might take a few weeks). Is he much younger than you?

annielouise · 24/05/2017 13:49

I know these feelings after a few failed relationships. I also know the time I went on holiday soon after helped me get over quicker than anything else. I don't know why. Can you take a holiday?

Guiltypleasures001 · 24/05/2017 13:52

I agree with Annie he's toe dipping in the water to see what the temperature is like 💐

noenemee · 24/05/2017 13:53

I actually don't think he ever intended on telling me, or ever intended for me to find out. I think the fact that I did had forced his hand, and because he's a coward and because he didn't want to face me, he just fucked off. Perhaps he meant to string the both of us along all the time, or perhaps she was just intended as a bit on the side...

My late FIL was like this, over many years. MIL turned a blind eye, until one time she didn't any more. MIL did end up lonely and sad, but she'd left it so late, they were married 32 years and she was left very bitter and not very well. FIL also ended up lonely and unhappy trapped into a further marriage, which I'm sure he never intended, but it was a case of having made his bed.

"I know i'm probably the last person you want to hear from but I hope you're ok. Give DD a squeeze from me x"

He's got some front.

Seriously OP although you're hurting, you are absolutely right, you're mourning the life you used to enjoy, but it was a sandcastle of a life and not based on firm and honest foundations. You will recover and you'll find happiness in the future that you can trust Flowers

Msqueen33 · 24/05/2017 14:04

Oh OP some day further down the line you will eventually be thankfully though I've been where you are and it hurt like hell. I was with my ex for seven years. He was very non flirty and gentle. He told me on my birthday he'd met someone else over the fucking phone from another branch at the other end of the country and she was his soulmate. I shoved all my stuff in bin bags and left that day despite having surgery on my jaw. We never spoke again.

Whereabouts are you? If you're on your own at the weekend there maybe a Mumsnetter nearby x

backscratcher · 24/05/2017 15:18

annielouise - you'd be forgiven for thinking he's much younger Grin given that he is an immature prick, but we're both actually late 30s!

Msqueen - I'm in the west of Scotland - I'm lucky that I have a very supportive family so if I can't find some friends to drown my sorrows with then I'm sure my sister will be persuaded into sharing some Gin with me this weekend.

noenemee - the bitterness is a horrible thing to live with. This happened with my DD's dad and although I stayed with him for a few months afterwards the bitterness was practically eating me up inside. I hated him, and hated what he had done to me and DD. That's no way to live your life. And bringing up a child in such a toxic environment...
That's what I need to focus on when I'm missing him and missing what I thought we had - I could never ever be with him again, because I'd end up as angry and bitter and as twisted as I was the last time, sneaking about checking phones, trying to access Facebook and Instagram accounts Blush, checking through their clothes and wallet and their car, constantly checking up on them. Fuck. That.

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inlectorecumbit · 24/05/2017 15:36

I'm in west of Scotland too Grin
not free at the weekend but happy to meet up at some point although l will admit to being a bit older than you.

annielouise · 24/05/2017 17:06

backscratcher I thought you sounded early to mid 30s and he was perhaps 5 years younger, so late 20s. Knowing he's late 30s then he's old enough to have developed some emotional intelligence. To have stood a chance he should have owned up straight away, and done everything to repair the damage, if you'd allow him. Not what he's done - run away, leave the ball in your court, wait for you to ask him why so he can come up with some minor complaint shifting the blame to you and for you to say let's give it another go. That's letting him very lightly.

Shayelle · 24/05/2017 17:57

Bloody hell backscrather, i really, really admire your strength, self respect and conviction. You are AWESOME.
Can you change your number after exorcising your home of his shit on sunday? So you dont have to receive any more of his beggy texts. Fucking loser he is Flowers

YorkshireTree · 24/05/2017 18:16

What an absolute arse he is. AngryAngryAngry

More front than Blackpool.

TheBusThatCouldntSlowDown · 24/05/2017 19:19

"I know i'm probably the last person you want to hear from but I hope you're ok. Give DD a squeeze from me x"

What. A. Fucking. Cheek. I actually gasped when I read it.

Have been lurking on your threads since the beginning, I'm sorry you're going through this. If it makes you feel any better the way you write is really hilarious, and he was obviously batting way out of his league.

Hope you're OK. Gin

nigelsbigface · 24/05/2017 19:26

I can't believe that text! No apology? No reference to his fucking behaviour?
I know it's hard op, and I'm so sorry. It's mind-bending when it turns out you didn't know a person they way you thought you did. You will get through this and feel better.Time and self care...Flowers

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