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Why did he betray me like this?

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user1493889010 · 04/05/2017 10:30

My long-term partner (from what he has said soon to be fiance) and I go on a break (he pushes for this) after he comes home from a night out and we have an argument. We agree that we are not going to see other people on this break and that it is just to think about the relationship and get some space.

I leave him in our house as he has two dogs which he is not able to take back to his mothers. So I agreed to go back to my parents even though I really didn't want this break at all. During the break he was incredibly cold, distant and rude at times.

Three weeks later there had been no breakthrough on his part. However I am still paying half the rent so I decided I want to go back to the house.

Not long after arriving back he collapses on the floor in tears and says he just wants us to get back together.

However after getting back together I started to find out what had been going on during this so called break.

He met a girl the at a club the night he came home and said he wanted to go on a break, he kissed her and took her number. This same girl he was with consistently during our break. They slept together in our home numerous times and had cosy nights in eating take-aways. He took her on many dates; London dungeon, aquarium, nice restaurants, cinema, bars/pubs, clubbing. Yes all in 3 weeks!!!!

Now when I found out who this girl was I was shocked! She wasn't what I was expecting at all. I know this sounds shallow but I think this is one of the few occasions you can bring looks into play.

Now I'm no model by any stretch of the imagination but this girl is noticeably a lot less attractive to the point it leaves people either speechless or confused (even his own mother who kept saying 'are you sure that's her she's awful, it can't be her').

Yet in 3 weeks he managed to wine and dine her like he has never done for me. Why?

Why did this girl get all the excitement, surprises and romance and I got nothing even after putting up with his crap for years and still sticking by him and loving him?

You might think then maybe it's personality or that I was a horrible girlfriend but I was the most loving, loyal, kind and faithful girlfriend to him which he won't deny. We had a great sex life, we always have a laugh and enjoy each other's company.

It doesn't make sense, it's driving me mad. No one understands not my friends, family, his family no one!

His excuse: 'I can't deal with breakups, I need someone to help me take my mind of the pain I'm feeling. Do you honestly think I would ever make that my bird? Look at her. It could have been anyone. Just to get me through until either we get back together again or I get over the pain and can be single again'

Is that all just a load of nonsense did he actually fall for this girl?

While I was trying to find out what went on I contacted her and she helped me to fill in all the gaps and I her about what went had actually happened. It turned out she believed he was single and had been for a while. She sent me a screenshot of a message he had sent her after he had got back with me saying:

'and that's why I have effing feelings for you because you're literally quality. I owe it to L* to give it another go but it's not because I don't like you or anything dumb like that, but anyway take care and I if you ever need me I am here. I hope it's not the last time we ever meet'

His excuse:

'I was just being a dog and trying to keep her there because after you found out what happened I didn't think it would last and needed something to fall back on'

Turned out he told her lots of lies which hurt me for instance that I had threatened suicide to get him back and that he had been forced, when the truth was that he had collapsed outside our bathroom in floods of tears the day I had come home asking if we could get back together and I had no idea what had gone on.

I just feel like an idiot so humiliated and hurt.

Don't men treat the girl they love better? Yet he still doesn't really take me anywhere, he still isn't romantic or surprise me. It feels like another woman stole my partner for 3 weeks and got the very best out of him. They got the him that I have earned after all these years and the hell he has put me through.

Nothing terrible happened in our relationship and I have never wronged him in any way so why would he do something so nasty as bring her into my home and sleep with her in my bed and take her to all the places I wish he took me? It seems like he was purposefully being nasty and trying to hurt. Why?

It doesn't make sense.

Please someone tell me what's going on here because he won't.

No one has to sugar coat anything I want the cold hard truth whatever it is.

Thank you in advance.

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user1493889010 · 04/05/2017 13:53

DelphiniumBlue

I think at the time it came as such a shock it really knocked me for six and I was so in love with him I was prepared to accept anything. There was no mutual negotiation at the time it was just him saying we need to be separated and me just hoping he came to his senses quickly.

I am with you I have no idea what a break means it's such a woolly, grey, nonsensical concept. However, because we put the 'we are not seeing other people' label on it I saw it as meaning simply a bit of headspace from one another, just some thinking time. Even though I protested this. Clearly he had other ideas!

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user1493889010 · 04/05/2017 13:55

Thank you very much Adora10 and PaleBluePigeon I do feel much more positive and energised! :)

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nachogazpacho · 04/05/2017 13:57

He told you why he did it. He is a dog. What he means is he doesn't give a shit about how you or the other girl feel about it. He wants to shag you both.

He's told you but you don't want to believe that someone can be so careless. But they can if they lack empathy or even sympathy. He planned it, kicked you out but made you pay rent then moved you back in when he'd had enough of having sex with this other woman, who he then slagged off. And you know he slagged you off to her.

Basically, you now know what he is like and that you won't be able to trust him. You need an std test. I would say he is very likely to have cheated or will cheat again but next time he won't have the cake break.

He took her out for meals because that got him sex. His aim was not to go out for a meal, but to shag her.

nachogazpacho · 04/05/2017 13:58

fake not cake

BubblingUp · 04/05/2017 14:03

There's probably a string on MN written by the other woman as she needs her reality checked as much as you do, OP. The common denominator is this lying manipulative wack job of a man. He's messing with both of you. Sounds like you are ready to call it a day.

yetmorecrap · 04/05/2017 14:04

probably wanted a break because he "fancied a change"!! sounds a total numpty to me. Im pretty sure you can do better than a guy who calls women "birds" Has he been watching too much of "The Sweeney"

2littlemoos · 04/05/2017 14:06

I'm sure everyone has given great advice but if you haven't already please please get out of this relationship! My ex was a bit like this and when I reflect on our relationship I am angry for the 3 years I was with him. Especially since I met my DP who I now have two children with and he is just on another level to him.

Please don't plan a future with this guy.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 04/05/2017 14:12

Yes, OP, please get out of this relationship. You deserve someone much better than this, and if you've 'allowed' him to do it once, caches are, he WILL do it again, just hide his tracks better. LTB.

You really do deserve better. Flowers

user1493889010 · 04/05/2017 14:15

Thank you so much everyone. Your advice is not falling on deaf ears.

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SandyY2K · 04/05/2017 14:19

He intended to cheat when he got her number that night and he instigated the argument for that very reason.

He knows he betrayed you and hence keeping her as a fallback girl, but I couldn't be with someone who treats another person the way he treated her and the way he lied about you like that.

I dislike the use of the word 'bird' for women and the very use of the word, is an indicator of the kind of man he is.

user1493889010 · 04/05/2017 14:26

SandyY2K and nachogazpacho

I do agree I feel there was an element of premeditation to the whole thing.

He insists the arguments were really getting to him and that the fact he met her that night was just a coincidence and she could have been anyone.

However, what I find odd is how he came straight home and told me he didn't want to be with me after he had kissed her and taken her number.

What I find most hurtful about that is that he then dumped me for someone he had just met.

I know being left for anyone is painful. But to leave me for someone he had just met like a few hours before doesn't say much about his love for me or how much he values me as a person, a partner, a friend or human being.

I really did feel like he had just thrown me away like a piece of rubbish. I was disposable to him.

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Bumshkawahwah · 04/05/2017 14:33

I think people are being a bit unfair on the OP. No, this other woman might not deserve a slagging off seeing as she was in the dark also, but when you are hurt and angry, you don't always feel rational. It's pretty unlikely that anyone would talk in glowing terms about the woman her DP was shagging even if she were mother Theresa and Princess Di rolled into one. Cut her some slack.

OP, my recommendation would be to cut and run. He met her before he told you he wanted a break and sounds like he orchestrated this to be able to go off and shag someone else. I doubt it was about her, how she looked or who she was. It's about something being wrong or missing in him. It doesn't bode well for for future marriage with this man. I'm so sorry you're going through this, it's just not right :(

user1493889010 · 04/05/2017 14:50

Thank you for the advice Bumshkawahwah I agree and think I really need to think about my future as what he has done doesn't bode well for the future.

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Wormulonian · 04/05/2017 15:04

He had no respect for this OW and hasn't shown you any respect either. If you take him back after this and his feeble excuses (shagging, wining and dining, tourist visits to ease the pain - yeah right!) he will know he can pull this crap on you again in the future. He didn't need to wine and dine and romance you because he already had you meetings his needs.

He has not cherished you in the past - do you think he will change?

If you do decide to give it a go again - think long and hard about your boundaries and what sustained changes he needs to make in how he treats you for you to be willing to continue. Lots of people on here recommend a book called "Not just friends"
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B0X1UPA/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1&tag=mumsnetforum-21

SparklyMagpie · 04/05/2017 15:05

I could not trust him after this, do yourself the biggest favour and walk away

Quantanamera · 04/05/2017 15:09

If you are still on speaking terms with this waste of space you are more of an idiot than he is.

whogivesaratzass · 04/05/2017 15:45

Oh dear god why are you still with this dickhead?!

He obviously has zero respect for you and was bored, a break allowed him some time to have that new relationship feeling and excitement with the 3 times a day new cant keep your hands off each other sex. The fact he asked for the break after he met her screams that he wanted to try her on for size and keep you on the back burner.

3 weeks later he decides he is fed up with her and you are a better option so tugs your heart strings. If you stay you are in for a life of misery and infidelity and will have no one to blame but yourself - sounds harsh but fool me once and all that. You know what he is capable of now so is that really the type of person you want in your life?

MyheartbelongstoG · 04/05/2017 15:50

I doubt many of us would speak highly of a woman our partner had been shagging on a break.

Give op a break.

He doesn't love you op, you deserve better than this. I hope you know that.

MyheartbelongstoG · 04/05/2017 15:52

My ex husband once shagged an oul one called Rosemary who was massive, think size 20's.

She had greasy hair which was parted in the middle. You know the look right.

It doesn't always have anything to do with what they look like

KindDogsTail · 04/05/2017 16:07

User
I am very sorry you have been through all this. Something is wrong in your life that you should have contemplated staying with this awful man for so long.

You mentioned that I got nothing even after putting up with his crap for years and still sticking by him and loving him

Why do you think you are so worthless? What is wrong? It might help you a lot if you got counselling - not about this relationship which anyone but you can see you shouldn't be in, but about why you have so little self esteem.

Good luck.

Huskylover1 · 04/05/2017 16:26

myheartbelongstoG is right. It's not about what they look like. I hate the saying but for some men, any hole is a goal.

Certainly this was the case for my Exh. I was with him in my 20's/30's, I was slim, very pretty, faithful, did everything for him...he still cheated all the fecking time. And some of the women were not lookers at all , so it wasn't about that. It was about the kick & validation he got from pulling another female.

Kick him to the kerb. He's cheated on you when you are at your best. What do you think he'll be capable of when you not at your best, when you are a new mother and knackered, or when you start to age a bit.

Lifetime of misery. Get rid.

MyheartbelongstoG · 04/05/2017 16:33

That's exactly it hudkey, they are looking for validation.

QuiteLikely5 · 04/05/2017 16:36

Op

What is happening now is that you gave him a chance but it hasn't worked out - you can't forgive and forget and not should you.

He hurt you and you have been unable to move on. Just cut your losses he really is t worth it

MatildaTheCat · 04/05/2017 16:40

Fgs don't marry him. Leave and find a real man. Real men don't act this way.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 04/05/2017 16:42

I think you're well suited. You're as shallow as a puddle & he's a complete twat. Stay together, it'll do other people a big favour.