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What Men Want (A bit about...)

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SuffolkGent01 · 11/04/2017 10:07

There are some women out there who genuinely wish they could be better wives or girlfriends, and I am writing this for those women who appreciate a bit of honesty about what men want - and yes, most of this does relate to sex. For those women who are open to hearing that, then I hope you find this helpful. For those ardent feminists, or man-hating Mumsnet guardians, who think this is a major human rights violation of some kind, then... sorry. (More on that below.).

Inevitably what I write will be generalisation, but as a guy in his 40s on his third marriage, having been around a bit, with a lot of male friends and colleagues also, and some experience counselling, I know this all applies to perhaps 90-95% of men. And If I say things about women, again it's a generalisation, so take it for what it is.

  1. Sex. Yes, married men would want sex much more regularly on the whole than they get (really, in my view, twice a week is pretty much the acceptable minimum for a couple under 60). But what truly depresses most married men, far more than the lack of regularity of sex, is actually that their wives simply show no interest in sex itself.

Any husband would take a woman who was sensual and enthusiastic and made a positive effort once every two weeks, then a woman who reluctantly rolls over to have missionary duty-sex once or twice a week. There is nothing more depressing, transparent, un-erotic and life-sapping than a woman doing duty-sex, and yet that is what almost all married men have to live with. What makes it worse, of course, is that this is not who most men dated or married to begin with, when so many women put on the show of being energetic sex bunnies.

But a woman who makes an effort, who does something unexpected, is a gem. So, ask yourself when you last actually thought about doing something new or different in the bedroom, when you last buy a sexy outfit or a toy, when did you last instigate a sexual act outside the bedroom (or, shock horror, the house)? If you ask yourself these questions regularly enough, you'll be well on the way to a happy husband.

  1. Lingerie. Men love women in nice lingerie, but for most married women it is purely functional and they have no interest in even wearing matching lingerie, let alone anything sexy, even at weekends or during a time spent together. This is an easy win.
  1. Presentation. This key principle is that men simply do not want to hear about women's health issues, or anything that a lady should not be talking about. There are millions of women in this country, but very very few ladies who understand the restraint that involves. This is really a function of good manners and etiquette as much as anything. So, men don't want to hear about anything to do with your private parts, body hair, etc. They don't want to see you adopting any un-lady like habits during marriage; breaking wind, burping, etc. just say to the world you have given up and frankly don't give a damn any more about being either lady like or attractive to your husband. Same goes for doing any body maintenance in front of your husband. All those things should be done, if they have to, in private, away from your husband's eyes and ears (not even leaving a razor out in the bathroom). If you want a happy man, you should focus on presenting yourself as something he desires. Body hair - anywhere other than the top of your head, eyebrows and (these days) a very moderate amount below the bikini line, is totally unacceptable. Men don't want to touch it, see it or hear about it. There are plenty of solutions, including having laser treatment (I don't know why this isn't something every woman does). A hairy arm, top lip, leg, side burn, or whatever else is a truly awful thing.

It is partly for this reason that some English men do like East Asian women, because they are generally more effeminate and also are naturally hairless in most areas. Anyway, I digress.

  1. Chat. Partly covered in 3 above, but one specific other area that men find a turn-off is when women speak in juvenile terms about body parts, particularly referring in giggling tones to someone's "willy" or "bum", for example, is an immediate signal and turn-off. So too is women speaking in clinical terms, like "penis" or "vagina". For men, private parts are, believe it or not, primarily sexual, and adult women who want to engage with their husbands should engage in more "adult" usage if they want to connect. It goes back to point 1, about men wishing their wives shared a more sensual / sexual mindset. This can help.
  1. Porn. I really could not believe my ears when I heard a couple of my friends say that their wives did not approve of them watching porn. And, then I have read threads on here of wives coming to the "community" to panic about what to do about their husband (sorry, "DH".... that's another posting altogether, god help us) watching a bit of kinky porn now and again and whether it's "acceptable" or not. Firstly, to state the blindingly obvious, it's not a question of whether a wife should allow, approve or tolerate her husband watching porn, or watching sport, or watching UFC or watching whatever on earth he wants to watch, if it's legal. He's an adult, a separate person, and that's the end of it. But much more relevant to this post about making your guy happy, it again links back to 1, and tells your husband you have no idea about his needs or wants and frankly no care, and that you are prudish, which is the opposite of what he wishes you were. Sorry, but that's the truth.

I appreciate porn is not many women's cup of tea. Of course, a woman who DOES like porn, either alone or together with her husband, is a great find. But even if you don't, if your focus is on him being happy, then just embrace it as much as you can. Remember, your husband gets no immediate pleasure from you using a sex toy, but can you imagine if he objected to you doing it? That would, of course, be ridiculous and out of order. Much better for him to participate, if his goal is to make you happy, and the reverse is the same. So, next time you think of ticking off your husband - who, by the way DOES watch porn REGULARLY, whatever he says - why not do something spontaneous, sexual and ground-breaking, whatever that may be (be creative with it).

Again, to those women who are interested in what men want, this is a little set of tips to help you on your way to making your man happier. It may not all be immediately achievable, but that's okay, it's primarily an explanation, nothing more, so you can better relate and adjust if you want to.

And, again, for those women who see this as the ultimate display of sexism blah blah, and are reaching for the pitch-forks or furiously typing a response about why men don't understand they are too tired for X, too busy for Y, and would do these things if only their husbands did A, B and C, and unrealistic expectations of women, etc. etc., then you really missed the point.

Bye Bye!
Peter

OP posts:
PoochSmooch · 11/04/2017 12:57

I particularly love that he's created a sock puppet so he can get in after his ban and carry on fapping himself raw Grin

He's put in the effort, let's grant him that.

FlyAwayPeter · 11/04/2017 13:02

Oooooooooooo our very own pet sock puppet!

Can we keep him please, MNHQ? He could be useful in keeping the mice down too.

Lisa282820 · 11/04/2017 13:02

The man must have a penis oh sorry Dick, prick? ( teach me peter as I'm not sure how I have got by identifying body parts before) as small and narrow as my little toe.
To need all of these extra visuals like porn and attire for extra stimulation constantly and consistently.
Maybe he just can't get it up without?
A trip to the doctors and to see your own counsellor could be the only advice needed here!

Doubting very much he is Gods gift and has the power to dictate terms

Neverknowing · 11/04/2017 13:04

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This is amazing!!
I wonder if there's anyone who actually thinks like this.
Also Peter I'd love laser hair removal if you'd cough up? Thanks love ya ❤️

darnitboo · 11/04/2017 13:05

What a guy. This has been one of my favourite posts of the year so far Grin😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 11/04/2017 13:07

Oh and as well as not shaving where I should, and shaving where I shouldn't.....
I also...
Burp
Fart
Swear so fucking cunting much
Ride and fix Shock motorbikes
Play football and rugby

And I never ever wear dresses or heels or paint my nails!!

I am like your worst enemy Peter and grant.

Be careful out there....this Feminazi could be round any corner......

WorkingClassHeroine · 11/04/2017 13:10

Please, please, mumsnet, don't delete this thread.....its too funny and I need to let DP read it later, purely for the entertainment value.

Mind you, he's a Pete too Hmm. But this only comment on my depilation (or not) of my body hair is restricted "...please don't grow your leg hairs and the wear sheer tights" - I'll leave that image with you all to enjoy Grin

WorkingClassHeroine · 11/04/2017 13:12

Oh dear, so many typos in my post - you get the gist I'm sure Wink

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 11/04/2017 13:13

Oh yes....please MNHQ don't take this down!

It has really brightened up my day! Grin

Owllady · 11/04/2017 13:14

It's like that return of the kings website. Awful fucking stuff

Lisa282820 · 11/04/2017 13:17

If I was peter/ Grants wife I would grow my pubic hair to my ankles if possible. Heck before I cut it I would platt it or knot it in to dreadlocks just to keep him the Hell away from me! 😂

SecondMrsAshwell · 11/04/2017 13:20

I thought the morons from the women-hating pornsite were being a bit quiet.

blackteasplease · 11/04/2017 13:20

This is fucking hilarious, I agree.

Please don't take it down as I need to rtft later when I have more time.

rumblingDMexploitingbstds · 11/04/2017 13:23

I am interested to hear what exactly in the substance of what he is saying is wrong?

I'm usually a fervent supporter of discussion and argument over name calling and shut downs. But in this case, no, I'm not engaging. I don't seriously believe that anyone capable of committing this amount of time and that level of literacy to the original post is genuinely this stupid. This has been posted with an agenda and I don't choose to be used for that purpose.

LittleMissFreedom · 11/04/2017 13:24

😂 this is the best laugh I've had in ages thanks Peter and Grant!

I now know why my ex husband left me, I clearly didn't meet his criteria! I think I'm glad I'm single Grin

Please keep this thread MNHQ as it reminds me of what I don't want in a man!

Kikikaakaa · 11/04/2017 13:28

I am interested to hear what exactly in the substance of what he is saying is wrong?

While I agree with not contributing to the agenda, simply put, Peter is not describing even one aspect of what makes a loving respectful relationship for both partners. It's just about what he believes what makes men happy visually. He cannot speak for all men, just for himself so it is misleading on that count. He doesn't offer a counter balance about the role men could play in making himself happy, without the need for a perfect, compliant little woman in his life.

Mrstumbletap · 11/04/2017 13:30

Thank you Peter for helping us women know EXACTLY how to deter men like you and Grant.

  • Only have sex if you want to
  • Do what you want with your body hair
  • Have periods, burp etc
  • Don't watch porn if you don't want to
  • Wear whatever the hell you want

So, If we ALL do the above, we will ensure complete fucking twats like you won't be interested in us and leave us the hell alone?

If only it was that simple.......

N0tNowBernard · 11/04/2017 13:30

Peter = stealth goad.

dilapidated · 11/04/2017 13:31

My ex used to complain I never wore sexy underwear.

When I pointed out that neither did he, he seemed shocked to think that he should make an effort.

He also wanted me to put more enthusiasm into sex.
But his constant complaining at me and the fact he made no effort didn't seem to help.

So many other issues with your post.
I just picture you being someone who doesn't make an effort, possible sits around whilst your other half clears up around you, with you in faded or greying underwear growing a goatee.

Grapeeatingweirdo · 11/04/2017 13:31

Hahahaha!!

I am someone who finds my partner farting to be hilarious and laughs at general potty humour (there's a time and a place obviously) and to turn this back on you "Peter", I simply do not wish to engage with a man who has such buttoned up ideas about what a woman should be.

I dated someone like you once and it didn't last. He was very polite and friendly, a clever man and easy to talk to and engage with. He was, however, extremely set in his ways, with ideas of how things "should" be.

Why only woman? Do you have a "manual" about how men should be?

I'm calling troll.

ShamefulDodger · 11/04/2017 13:32

Fuck me, I'm crying 😂😂😂

10/10

I'm not usually one to pull the 'Well, I've just showed my very own Man this and He thinks....' card but felt this was appropriate.

Apart from having this face Confused, Dh says I can say 'willy' and talk about periods all I want. he also said 'Muppet, hope the vipers had fun ripping him to shreds

And he won't even leave me Shock so there!

Grin
ItsCakeTime · 11/04/2017 13:32

Mumsnet Can we keep him please
please

ItsCakeTime · 11/04/2017 13:33

please
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I promise I'll walk him and feed him and groom him
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Grapeeatingweirdo · 11/04/2017 13:34

This thread is the funniest one I've read since the private farting one (tell me that thread is now in classics, PLEASE)