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What Men Want (A bit about...)

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SuffolkGent01 · 11/04/2017 10:07

There are some women out there who genuinely wish they could be better wives or girlfriends, and I am writing this for those women who appreciate a bit of honesty about what men want - and yes, most of this does relate to sex. For those women who are open to hearing that, then I hope you find this helpful. For those ardent feminists, or man-hating Mumsnet guardians, who think this is a major human rights violation of some kind, then... sorry. (More on that below.).

Inevitably what I write will be generalisation, but as a guy in his 40s on his third marriage, having been around a bit, with a lot of male friends and colleagues also, and some experience counselling, I know this all applies to perhaps 90-95% of men. And If I say things about women, again it's a generalisation, so take it for what it is.

  1. Sex. Yes, married men would want sex much more regularly on the whole than they get (really, in my view, twice a week is pretty much the acceptable minimum for a couple under 60). But what truly depresses most married men, far more than the lack of regularity of sex, is actually that their wives simply show no interest in sex itself.

Any husband would take a woman who was sensual and enthusiastic and made a positive effort once every two weeks, then a woman who reluctantly rolls over to have missionary duty-sex once or twice a week. There is nothing more depressing, transparent, un-erotic and life-sapping than a woman doing duty-sex, and yet that is what almost all married men have to live with. What makes it worse, of course, is that this is not who most men dated or married to begin with, when so many women put on the show of being energetic sex bunnies.

But a woman who makes an effort, who does something unexpected, is a gem. So, ask yourself when you last actually thought about doing something new or different in the bedroom, when you last buy a sexy outfit or a toy, when did you last instigate a sexual act outside the bedroom (or, shock horror, the house)? If you ask yourself these questions regularly enough, you'll be well on the way to a happy husband.

  1. Lingerie. Men love women in nice lingerie, but for most married women it is purely functional and they have no interest in even wearing matching lingerie, let alone anything sexy, even at weekends or during a time spent together. This is an easy win.
  1. Presentation. This key principle is that men simply do not want to hear about women's health issues, or anything that a lady should not be talking about. There are millions of women in this country, but very very few ladies who understand the restraint that involves. This is really a function of good manners and etiquette as much as anything. So, men don't want to hear about anything to do with your private parts, body hair, etc. They don't want to see you adopting any un-lady like habits during marriage; breaking wind, burping, etc. just say to the world you have given up and frankly don't give a damn any more about being either lady like or attractive to your husband. Same goes for doing any body maintenance in front of your husband. All those things should be done, if they have to, in private, away from your husband's eyes and ears (not even leaving a razor out in the bathroom). If you want a happy man, you should focus on presenting yourself as something he desires. Body hair - anywhere other than the top of your head, eyebrows and (these days) a very moderate amount below the bikini line, is totally unacceptable. Men don't want to touch it, see it or hear about it. There are plenty of solutions, including having laser treatment (I don't know why this isn't something every woman does). A hairy arm, top lip, leg, side burn, or whatever else is a truly awful thing.

It is partly for this reason that some English men do like East Asian women, because they are generally more effeminate and also are naturally hairless in most areas. Anyway, I digress.

  1. Chat. Partly covered in 3 above, but one specific other area that men find a turn-off is when women speak in juvenile terms about body parts, particularly referring in giggling tones to someone's "willy" or "bum", for example, is an immediate signal and turn-off. So too is women speaking in clinical terms, like "penis" or "vagina". For men, private parts are, believe it or not, primarily sexual, and adult women who want to engage with their husbands should engage in more "adult" usage if they want to connect. It goes back to point 1, about men wishing their wives shared a more sensual / sexual mindset. This can help.
  1. Porn. I really could not believe my ears when I heard a couple of my friends say that their wives did not approve of them watching porn. And, then I have read threads on here of wives coming to the "community" to panic about what to do about their husband (sorry, "DH".... that's another posting altogether, god help us) watching a bit of kinky porn now and again and whether it's "acceptable" or not. Firstly, to state the blindingly obvious, it's not a question of whether a wife should allow, approve or tolerate her husband watching porn, or watching sport, or watching UFC or watching whatever on earth he wants to watch, if it's legal. He's an adult, a separate person, and that's the end of it. But much more relevant to this post about making your guy happy, it again links back to 1, and tells your husband you have no idea about his needs or wants and frankly no care, and that you are prudish, which is the opposite of what he wishes you were. Sorry, but that's the truth.

I appreciate porn is not many women's cup of tea. Of course, a woman who DOES like porn, either alone or together with her husband, is a great find. But even if you don't, if your focus is on him being happy, then just embrace it as much as you can. Remember, your husband gets no immediate pleasure from you using a sex toy, but can you imagine if he objected to you doing it? That would, of course, be ridiculous and out of order. Much better for him to participate, if his goal is to make you happy, and the reverse is the same. So, next time you think of ticking off your husband - who, by the way DOES watch porn REGULARLY, whatever he says - why not do something spontaneous, sexual and ground-breaking, whatever that may be (be creative with it).

Again, to those women who are interested in what men want, this is a little set of tips to help you on your way to making your man happier. It may not all be immediately achievable, but that's okay, it's primarily an explanation, nothing more, so you can better relate and adjust if you want to.

And, again, for those women who see this as the ultimate display of sexism blah blah, and are reaching for the pitch-forks or furiously typing a response about why men don't understand they are too tired for X, too busy for Y, and would do these things if only their husbands did A, B and C, and unrealistic expectations of women, etc. etc., then you really missed the point.

Bye Bye!
Peter

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ShamefulDodger · 11/04/2017 13:36

Can we come up with a nonsense 'How to' guide for clueless men like op? Grin

  1. Don't fart. Ever.
We know you and your mates think it's funny, but you can't expect us to put our heads anywhere near that area with it smelling like that. Hold it in even if it hurts you.
  1. Wax your balls if you expect a bj.
No woman wants to see an untidy man bush. Do it, or we are leaving you for the neighbour.
Grapeeatingweirdo · 11/04/2017 13:36

For what it's worth, I read the farting thread to my DP and we had a laugh together. A real man is one who sees a woman as an equal partner. A relationship is two people coming together as equals. I am not a sex doll for anyone.

The mystery is how he's getting all these women to marry him. Are these actual, living and breathing women?

sunnysouthend · 11/04/2017 13:37

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ShamefulDodger · 11/04/2017 13:38

True, I think most normal people see their partner as a (gasp) human being, and not a performing sex monkey Grin

YetAnotherSpartacus · 11/04/2017 13:38

please
please
I promise I'll walk him and feed him and groom him
please
please

Let's start a gofundme to take him to the vet to be neutered!

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 11/04/2017 13:39

MN can we keep him pplllleeeeeeaaasssseee???!! Grin

I'll share walking and feeding with ItsCakeTime

And I promise I won't wave my armpit hair in his face toomuch! Grin

Then maybe we can occasionally let him out to have a good hugely amusing rant?

Pretty please??

He clearly needs a home and some fucking shitloads of training Grin

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 11/04/2017 13:41

The mystery is how he's getting all these women to marry him. Are these actual, living and breathing women?

I have a vision of those blow up sex dolls with mouths like this Shock lined up in a row, in bridal lingerie and veils.... Grin

yetmorecrap · 11/04/2017 13:41

They may want a sexually interested wife but actually quite a modest percentage of guys judging by the posts on here deserve one!!

confusedat23 · 11/04/2017 13:42

Oh dear... I've only been married for 8 Months and I can see now I have spent the whole time doing everything wrong!!!!

YorkshireTree · 11/04/2017 13:43

Grant can you answer this:

What exactly would a woman get out of acting like that for a man? What is in it for her?

And if the answer is "me" or "a man" is that worth giving up your comfort, free speech and wish to be treated like a real person, not an object or serf?

Mrstumbletap · 11/04/2017 13:47

OP imagine this as the flip side of what you are telling us, Men please:

Never watch porn again, all women hate it, please never ever watch it again

Don't bother us for sex unless you will give us a 30 minute massage before sex to relax us, every single time, no more quickies, we hate them.

Please shave off all your body hair, us women hate it, please shave it all off and repeat every day, any trace of stubble or beard hair is disgusting, don't let us ever see you shave either its horrible, remove any trace of the stubble from the sink immediately its foul.

Please only wear crisp white Calvin Klein underwear changed at least twice daily.

Please never burp or fart in front of us and never ever poo at home, please go to the nearest public toilet to do that. It will repulse us if you do anything other than a wee at home, and don't do that if we can hear either.

The above are examples of complete nonsense, as is your first post.

Olddear · 11/04/2017 13:47

Yes well, feeding and grooming is one thing, but you'd have to clean out his cage as well!!!

Lisa282820 · 11/04/2017 13:51

Feeding and grooming?
I'm not one for cruelty to animals but I think he needs whipping!
Oh hang on no as he would probably enjoy that!

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 11/04/2017 13:51

Yorkshire
You forget that these are the sort of men who go through life believeing the fucking bullshit (sadly some women also) lie that women should be grateful to have any man at all, and that a womans life is worth nothing if she can't "keep her man". (see...all fairytales/ "romance" novels/ 50 shades of fucking abusive grey for reference!)

not so sadly for him, more and more women realise that actually, having "a man" isn't what defines them, and so are refusing to put up with this mysoginistic, hyper unreal expectations of women.

OP you do realise that most of those "perfect housewives" in the 50s coped with their shitty situations by being fucked off their face on valium/mothers helpers (speed) (prescribed by doctors btw!) and alcohol right?

So the only way women can keep up this "ideal", is by getting off their faces......doesn't that tell you something?? Hmm

Pastamancer · 11/04/2017 13:53

So women must be hair free but not leave any evidence of the hair removal in sight. I guess that means that they need to use their man's razor?

MyBonnieLiesOverTheOcean · 11/04/2017 13:55

Never has a poster been so incongruously named as SuffolkGent.

Ampersand22 · 11/04/2017 13:58

Three marriages. hahaha

hahaha
hahaha
hahaha
hahaha

Fucking mint.

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 11/04/2017 14:00

Lisa Noooo...no whipping!

Just gentle but firm admonishment, and a smack onthe nose with a rolled up newspaper everytime he barks says something sexist and/or stupid.

Plus we're not monsters! Grin

He'd at least get a tin of pal everyday and a bowl of water, plus a glimpse of a hairy, feminist leg if he was good clad in dungarees and senesible shoes, natch Grin

BitOutOfPractice · 11/04/2017 14:00

Are we supposed to be taking this seriously? Really?

BluePeppersAndBroccoli · 11/04/2017 14:03

I'm wondering why 'Pete' has already three marriages under his belt.
Oh hold on, I think i know why....

I'm quite worried about the comment of 'having some counselling experience'. I hope this guy isn't trying to 'help' some poor fella!

Lisa282820 · 11/04/2017 14:04

Ok! Just shaved my fanny completely bald on your advice! I have put the razor away as I never knew how badly this affected my husband! The problem is it's now itchy scratchy!
May I scratch and itch it peter or would this be un-lady like?
When husband comes home and I'm scratching like a have a dose of crabs I'll tell him I'm following the words of the wise one haha

Bahhhhhumbug · 11/04/2017 14:06

Right ok then Peter , will bear all that in mind hides wyncyette sperm retardant nightie under pillow and replaces ladyshave with huge pink double ender Thanks for your help.

Grapeeatingweirdo · 11/04/2017 14:10

Lana, haha!!

GotToGetMyFingerOut · 11/04/2017 14:10

Would you like me to tell you what women want so your next marriage can be a success?

PigeonFingers · 11/04/2017 14:19

I miss Peter.

It's been 4 hours since he last said something funny.