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BF's had a personality transplant. Thoughts please ...

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AllTorque · 10/04/2017 16:35

My partner of 12 months seems to have undergone a total personality transplant. I’ve known him for about 25 years, and he’s always been a lovely man. As a bit of background, he’s had two long term relationships of 10+ years, and I was married for 11 years.

When we got together, he was fun, open, engaging, talkative, great company, loved spending time with me. I moved in to his house after three or four months of us being together (we’re in our mid and late 40s) and for the next few months, everything was fantastic. We were both happy with each other’s company. We couldn’t get enough of each other. Loads of spontaneous amazing sex, morning noon and night, him giving hugs and kisses spontaneously, cute little texts every day saying he loved me, etc. We share some of the same hobbies and interests, and there’s other stuff we enjoyed doing together also, too much to list.

However, since about October he’s been withdrawn, almost non-communicative, like different person altogether. This seemed to literally happen overnight. I’ve no idea why. I have asked, repeatedly. He never spontaneously hugs or kisses me (never a “proper” kiss), there’s no texts and not much conversation in the evenings. I get a kiss when he leaves for work in the mornings (he leaves at 6 am), and when he gets in in the evening, there’s no friendly hello or hugs or even a peck on the check. For example, he came in today just before 3 o’clock, he knows that I'm in the house because my car is outside, but hasn’t come to see me to say hello. I know he’ll be sitting on the couch scrolling endlessly on his phone and will just grunt at me when I go to say hello and moan about having a shit day. He never asks about my day. I try to make allowances as he’s on his feet all day, and he’s outdoors in all weathers. I do wonder if there’s a bit of seasonal affective disorder going on, but he doesn’t seem any happier now the season’s changing.

It’s like he’s flicked the emotional off switch. As an example, I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times we’ve made love since Christmas. If I instigate it, he’ll make an excuse about having a bad back or a sore hip and then leg it out of the bedroom (I’ve noted that this pain never stops him going off for entire days on his mountain bike with his friends though). When it does happen it’s usually it’s a five minute (and that’s a generous estimate) episode with minimal effort on his part, no foreplay, he stops when he feels like it and there’s no cuddles after. To be honest, I'm getting a bit fed up with being the one making all the effort. I end up feeling like a sex pest if I try and show him any affection. I did notice him checking out my boobs yesterday though when I was wearing a low cut top.

There’s absolutely zero effort made on his part to show me that he still cares. We recently had a couple of holidays together, and whilst things were OK, I found it really difficult to spend hours sat together in silence. I made all the effort at conversation but he just seemed like he was miles away.

I’ve asked him on numerous occasions what’s wrong, I tell him if something’s bothering him, just to let me know. He says there’s nothing wrong, he “loves me to bits” and that “it’s just what he does” and that he withdraws “into himself, sometimes for weeks at a time”. I’ve pointed out that it’s been months now and that if he did care, he’d make the effort to show it, and that it’s only reasonable for me to assume that he doesn’t want me any more if he doesn’t tell me or show me, He says that’s he’s upset about a friend of his dying in January this year. He’d known him for a long time, but while they were good friends, they didn’t seem particularly close. I think it’s a bit strange that he’s using this as an excuse when he’s so unemotional where I'm concerned. I’ve asked if there’s anyone else and he says no. He’s not a liar and I believe him.

I’ve noticed that he’s also drinking more than is good for him at the moment. On a couple of occasions when we’ve been out, when we got home, he’s turned on me – verbally, he’d never dream of laying so much as a finger on me - saying things like I can't wait to move out or go back to my husband (no chance of that happening, ever). He was apologetic in the morning on both occasions and said he doesn’t want to lose me and wants us to spend the rest of our lives together.

I just don’t know what to do. I feel awkward about telling him I love him as he never says it or even demonstrates it to me any more. Actions do speak louder than words, don’t they?

I suspect that he’s depressed or bipolar. He’s mentioned having depression in the past.

We live in his house, which is in joint names with his ex (who never contributed to the mortgage despite emotionally blackmailing him into buying). She moved out over three years ago but there’s still tons of her things here (mostly clothes and, frankly, junk, but he says it’s not his stuff to throw away) and he either won't or can't deal with sorting out the title to the house or getting her to collect her stuff. This means that there's no room for my things, which are still at my old house. I’ve been told by reliable sources (without my asking them) that she was a manipulative cow, but I suppose that’s another story. It’s a shithole, everything needs doing to it – windows, electric, plumbing, new kitchen, new bathroom etc.. There’s no stair carpet and the inside wall of the gable end is mouldy in patches. I’ve never lived anywhere like this in my life. I'm the only one who ever tidies up.

I’ve gone so far as to pack all my clothes, they're in bags in the wardrobe. He knows this but hasn’t commented.

I suppose I'm just rambling but I'm looking for objective thoughts on this. Anyone?

OP posts:
Dogblep · 11/04/2017 07:39

No personality transplant. This is him. I'd bet money on the fact that if you stay he might pull out of this funk and you might have months or years that are nice. Then something bad will happen and he'll do this again.

Do you know that saying 'when someone tells you who they are, listen?' Because he has directly told you this is 'just what he does' and sometimes 'withdraws for weeks at a time'. I've met other mem like that. It's a form of sulking and its controlling. Because now you desperately want to know what's wrong. You'll go to an enormous effort to be nice to him and make him happy and get him back. That's very powerful for his ego. You're even talking about taking your coil out so you can react differently, as if the answer to all this lies somewhere in you. He has you right where he wants you.

Why do you want sex with someone who is treating you very badly? Why are you happy living with another woman's things everywhere? I think you're in danger of saying 'he's sensitive' and excusing everything he does.

It's sad when someone gives a false impression of themselves and wastes your time. A few months in was too early to give things up for him. I'd strongly recommend moving on and getting some therapy to unpick all this. I guarantee if you stay things will carry on as they are. You have to picture yourself in 10 years time and ask yourself if you want to still be coping with the same behaviours. In my opinion, life is too short!

DragonFire99 · 11/04/2017 07:47

You've only been together for a year! Move on. The honeymoon period is obviously over. If he won't talk to you about it or realise there's a problem, then you're stuffed. You're just waiitng for him to 'come to his senses' and return to being the man you knew at first. But it looks like he just doesn't care that much about you, OP - I'm sorry.

AlternativeTentacle · 11/04/2017 07:56

Just bloody leave already. He is just not into you.

Saying 'we love each other' is not enough. He actually has to be engaged in the relationship and right now he isn't even in the room.

5BlueHydrangea · 11/04/2017 08:02

Is your house empty or do you have tenants? If its empty, decision made! Move back. Both have some space to see how you really feel. I suspect when you're out of the house you will see things more clearly.
He may be depressed but if he is unable or unwilling to seek help then you're rather stuck. Push him to seek help. Then move out and see how you feel then.

Butterymuffin · 11/04/2017 08:11

Your best bet is to move back to your own house, if for no other reason that it shows him how seriously unhappy you've become with the situation. While you're still there he's not going to change as he has no incentive to. Move out and tell him things have to change, including him seeking treatment for depression, if your relationship is to continue. I am doubtful he'll do it but moving out is your best tactical move either way: you can see if he shapes up, and if he doesn't (more likely IMO) you've extracted yourself from the whole thing and can start afresh.

Olddear · 11/04/2017 08:15

I don't know what you're confused about. He's over you already. I'm sorry to be blunt, but you really need to leave. You really deserve better.

TheElephantofSurprise · 11/04/2017 08:18

Get the fuck out, for you, not him. He's checked out of the relationship. You need to break free and start afresh. The current situation is bad for your self-esteem.

imablackstarnotapopstar · 11/04/2017 08:20

He attracted you with the best of him until you moved in but couldn't keep it up. He's showing you the real him now. Of course his ex was a "manipulative cow" because that's what he told everyone. She hasn't collected her stuff because she can't bear to be back in the house or see him no doubt! Run for your life!!! Go back to your lovely clean house where you are always welcome!

Nospringflower · 11/04/2017 08:37

I couldn't live in a grotty house with no space for my stuff even if the relationship was great! It's not.

Him saying he doesnt want you to go doesnt mean anything if he hasnt changed.

I would move out.

user1487175389 · 11/04/2017 08:44

This is who he really is. You've moved in. He's got you. The chase is over, so he can relax and be himself. 'himself' being a boring, unaffectionate, selfish arse.

Clearly, he's not who you thought he was. Now you have two choices. 1, make yourself utterly miserable trying to change him back into the person you need him to be. (and even if you succeed it'll only be very fleeting) or 2, cut your losses and LTB. Take responsibility for your own happiness and give yourself the chance to meet someone worth your time and energy and love. I know which one I'd choose if I had my time again.

Nospringflower · 11/04/2017 08:53

Bc

nauticant · 11/04/2017 09:15

There's lots of sound advice on your thread OP:

The honeymoon period is over and this is reality

Just sounds like th spark has worn off for him and he's over trying

Youve been through the honeymoon 6 months of wooing, dating, moving in excitement and now its all worn off and he thinks he doesnt have to try any more

The mask has slipped, he's not fussed about whether you're there or not, and this is his personality

The novelty has worn off. He's not bothered

Honeymoon phase is over and this is reality I'm afraid. Move on OP

I'd agree with others that this is going nowhere and will become harder for you as more time passes. Sometimes it is best to walk away.

Goldfishjane · 11/04/2017 11:02

I don't know how you live in his grotty home either

Also I wonder if he can't be arsed with the drama of a break up. It might not be a drama but that might be what he fears.

Also some people like me, who are better single, persist in trying relationships because they struggle with societal judgement on being single. I've seen it here "weirdo who lives alone" though in fairness the poster was quick to apologise. He might be one of those.

But really, speculation is futile. Move out already.

Footle · 11/04/2017 21:26

Living surrounded by his ex's stuff is one of the weirdest aspects. You must miss your own place all the time.

AllT0rque · 13/07/2017 13:53

Hi, I'm the OP here. Slight name change as I forgot my login details.

Well, I did LTB, a month ago. According to him, I needed to make more effort Hmm

I have subsequently found out via a close relative of his that in ALL of his previous relationships, exactly the same thing has happened - six months or so of him making and then getting bored and shutting down and generally being a miserable arse. Two of these poor women put up with him for ten years each Shock

Would have been nice to have been told that before, but hey, it was nice at first ...

I am now over the moon to be living in a habitable, clean, tidy, non-mouldy, non-smelly nicely decorated house, on my own, with no fucking snoring in my ear night after night.

I went round to collect some mail a couple of weeks ago, and oh my god, the state of his place now he's there on his own! Mountain bikes, camping gear, motorbike clobber, ironing board, laundry etc all piled up in the living room. I didn't venture anywhere else. He did give me my keys back "just in case I ever want to come home", but he's ignored every text that I've sent. Talk about mixed messages!

And today he's getting a little surprise when the TV and broadband package gets disconnected Grin

AllT0rque · 13/07/2017 13:54

*six months or so of him making an effort ...

ladystarkers · 13/07/2017 13:57

Well done OP. I just read this and thought... Leave. You hadno other choice. So glad its worked out for you.

Orangetoffee · 13/07/2017 14:01

Just read through this as well and very pleased with your update.

MN saw right through him Smile

AllT0rque · 13/07/2017 15:35

Oh, I saw through it too, I suppose I was just hanging in there in the vain hope that it might get better.

The final straw was when he had a fairly nasty mountain bike accident not long ago, landing heavily on his head (he was wearing a helmet) he wouldn't get himself checked out properly by a doctor, just moaned incessantly for weeks about his sore neck and back. I had a gutful of the continual whining. Particularly as I was off work myself due to stress brought on by the situation I found myself in. He didn't even ask why I wasn't at work. I also ended up taking medication for panic attacks. (Never suffered with stress or panic previously)

I'm so relieved to be out of the situation. And out of his shitty house.

Hermonie2016 · 13/07/2017 15:56

Thankfully you have good boundaries and self esteem so recognised that it wasn't acceptable.

I bet his honeymoon period with each relationship will get shorter.I think he sounds like someone who should live alone.

grungeneverdied · 13/07/2017 16:05

No affection and no effort, the "honeymoon" period is where standards and expectations are met. If he can't keep up with what he was like months ago then leave regardless of situation. Consistency is needed and someone who is hot and cold just isn't that. Run

Buscake · 13/07/2017 16:08

Well done OP, glad you are happier all round now Flowers

maras2 · 13/07/2017 17:19

Good for you.Well done.Flowers Wine Cake.
All to be had in a nice clean house.Smile

Kr1stina · 13/07/2017 17:38

Thanks for the update. So glad to hear that you are out of there.

And well done to all the savvy MNers who called it right Grin

RandomMess · 13/07/2017 17:49

Glad you left, onwards and upwards!