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BF's had a personality transplant. Thoughts please ...

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AllTorque · 10/04/2017 16:35

My partner of 12 months seems to have undergone a total personality transplant. I’ve known him for about 25 years, and he’s always been a lovely man. As a bit of background, he’s had two long term relationships of 10+ years, and I was married for 11 years.

When we got together, he was fun, open, engaging, talkative, great company, loved spending time with me. I moved in to his house after three or four months of us being together (we’re in our mid and late 40s) and for the next few months, everything was fantastic. We were both happy with each other’s company. We couldn’t get enough of each other. Loads of spontaneous amazing sex, morning noon and night, him giving hugs and kisses spontaneously, cute little texts every day saying he loved me, etc. We share some of the same hobbies and interests, and there’s other stuff we enjoyed doing together also, too much to list.

However, since about October he’s been withdrawn, almost non-communicative, like different person altogether. This seemed to literally happen overnight. I’ve no idea why. I have asked, repeatedly. He never spontaneously hugs or kisses me (never a “proper” kiss), there’s no texts and not much conversation in the evenings. I get a kiss when he leaves for work in the mornings (he leaves at 6 am), and when he gets in in the evening, there’s no friendly hello or hugs or even a peck on the check. For example, he came in today just before 3 o’clock, he knows that I'm in the house because my car is outside, but hasn’t come to see me to say hello. I know he’ll be sitting on the couch scrolling endlessly on his phone and will just grunt at me when I go to say hello and moan about having a shit day. He never asks about my day. I try to make allowances as he’s on his feet all day, and he’s outdoors in all weathers. I do wonder if there’s a bit of seasonal affective disorder going on, but he doesn’t seem any happier now the season’s changing.

It’s like he’s flicked the emotional off switch. As an example, I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times we’ve made love since Christmas. If I instigate it, he’ll make an excuse about having a bad back or a sore hip and then leg it out of the bedroom (I’ve noted that this pain never stops him going off for entire days on his mountain bike with his friends though). When it does happen it’s usually it’s a five minute (and that’s a generous estimate) episode with minimal effort on his part, no foreplay, he stops when he feels like it and there’s no cuddles after. To be honest, I'm getting a bit fed up with being the one making all the effort. I end up feeling like a sex pest if I try and show him any affection. I did notice him checking out my boobs yesterday though when I was wearing a low cut top.

There’s absolutely zero effort made on his part to show me that he still cares. We recently had a couple of holidays together, and whilst things were OK, I found it really difficult to spend hours sat together in silence. I made all the effort at conversation but he just seemed like he was miles away.

I’ve asked him on numerous occasions what’s wrong, I tell him if something’s bothering him, just to let me know. He says there’s nothing wrong, he “loves me to bits” and that “it’s just what he does” and that he withdraws “into himself, sometimes for weeks at a time”. I’ve pointed out that it’s been months now and that if he did care, he’d make the effort to show it, and that it’s only reasonable for me to assume that he doesn’t want me any more if he doesn’t tell me or show me, He says that’s he’s upset about a friend of his dying in January this year. He’d known him for a long time, but while they were good friends, they didn’t seem particularly close. I think it’s a bit strange that he’s using this as an excuse when he’s so unemotional where I'm concerned. I’ve asked if there’s anyone else and he says no. He’s not a liar and I believe him.

I’ve noticed that he’s also drinking more than is good for him at the moment. On a couple of occasions when we’ve been out, when we got home, he’s turned on me – verbally, he’d never dream of laying so much as a finger on me - saying things like I can't wait to move out or go back to my husband (no chance of that happening, ever). He was apologetic in the morning on both occasions and said he doesn’t want to lose me and wants us to spend the rest of our lives together.

I just don’t know what to do. I feel awkward about telling him I love him as he never says it or even demonstrates it to me any more. Actions do speak louder than words, don’t they?

I suspect that he’s depressed or bipolar. He’s mentioned having depression in the past.

We live in his house, which is in joint names with his ex (who never contributed to the mortgage despite emotionally blackmailing him into buying). She moved out over three years ago but there’s still tons of her things here (mostly clothes and, frankly, junk, but he says it’s not his stuff to throw away) and he either won't or can't deal with sorting out the title to the house or getting her to collect her stuff. This means that there's no room for my things, which are still at my old house. I’ve been told by reliable sources (without my asking them) that she was a manipulative cow, but I suppose that’s another story. It’s a shithole, everything needs doing to it – windows, electric, plumbing, new kitchen, new bathroom etc.. There’s no stair carpet and the inside wall of the gable end is mouldy in patches. I’ve never lived anywhere like this in my life. I'm the only one who ever tidies up.

I’ve gone so far as to pack all my clothes, they're in bags in the wardrobe. He knows this but hasn’t commented.

I suppose I'm just rambling but I'm looking for objective thoughts on this. Anyone?

OP posts:
MangoSplit · 10/04/2017 19:12

I'd be devastated by this, OP. Not just because of the way he's treating you, but also his complete refusal to discuss it in an open and honest manner. Have you considered counselling if you really don't want to leave?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 10/04/2017 19:17

The place is a shithole and you are the only one who ever tidies up

You are confused because you see nothing in it for you yet he says that we love each other and I should stay.

He loves having a woman to keep house.

You are a fantastically low maintenance woman too. He puts in zero effort, you pick up the slack, he gets to keep you as housekeeper, he only has to mutter a few platitudes about loving you every now and then.

I give my neighbour's cat more attention than he gives you.

You are being taken for a mug. Leave.

Starlighter · 10/04/2017 19:19

Your relationship should still be in the honeymoon phase! It shouldn't be this difficult this early on.

IMO, he's not over his ex, he threw himself into a relationship with you and is now having regrets.

Sorry, I think it's best you cut your losses and go. Flowers

Zaphodsotherhead · 10/04/2017 19:31

You love each other and therefore you should be happy to hang around with a guy who barely notices you exist...is how he should have ended that sentence.

You might well love each other. But love, I'm afraid, isn't enough.

HeyRoly · 10/04/2017 19:38

I know this must be difficult to hear but: this relationship is over. What you have is not a relationship.

Can you imagine still living with this grunting, uncommunicative man in another six months? A year? Two years?

Goldfishjane · 10/04/2017 19:39

Are you doing all the domestics?
Some people want someone around for no reason really, plus if you do all the chores that might be what he wants. I doubt he's changed. This is who he is.

People who've known me 25 years would be astonished if they lived with me I think.

AllTorque · 10/04/2017 19:51

Yes, pretty much. Although he'll iron his uniform and do the washing up when we run out of pots I ask. I don't think he actually expects me to tidy up after him, he's just not as bothered by mess as I am.

I do personally think that living in grotty surroundings is quite depressing. I've never had to do it before and it's definitely affecting me living like this.

He pays all the bills, says they're "not my problem".

He is quite a sensitive person, he's generous and helpful and does give a lot of his time to help out his friends and family.

OP posts:
MangoSplit · 10/04/2017 20:10

OP, I think Goldfishjane has hit the nail on the head. You've known him for many years but you've never lived with him - this is what he's like to live with.

Is he maybe the type of person who makes a better friend than a partner? I had an ex like that - he couldn't do enough for his friends, but as his girlfriend I felt taken for granted.

CouldntMakeThisShitUp · 10/04/2017 20:21

Sounds to me like you both jumped into this way too quickly.

I’ve known him for about 25 years, and he’s always been a lovely man
AS A FRIEND! You never knew him from a non-platonic perspective.

Good friends don't always automatically translate into being good partners....and this sounds more like lust than love. Hence it's worn off pretty quick after you've both 'come down' from your high.

just chalk it up to lesson learned, experience gained and move on - and out.

AllTorque · 10/04/2017 20:25

He wasn't a friend, as such. I've just known him for years through mutual friends.

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category12 · 10/04/2017 20:40

So you've known of him for years.

DancingGoose · 10/04/2017 20:52

I imagine this is who he is OP the first flush of love has worn off. it does sound like he might struggle - at least physically with the messy house and possibly emotionally too with all the stuff belonging to his ex.

something is going on for him and perhaps he finds the 'demands' of a full time relationship too much. it does sound like he doesn't want to lose you in one way but his actions are very much about creating emotional distance between the two of you. it would be intersecting to know why his last relationship broke down.

i think all you can do is decide if this the relationship you want. - and try to stay clear of any desire to fix him.

DancingGoose · 10/04/2017 20:52

interesting not intersecting!

Goldfishjane · 10/04/2017 20:59

Mango "Is he maybe the type of person who makes a better friend than a partner"

Yes I wonder that, that's me too. Am often asked why I want close friends around but not a boyfriend. Anyone who lived with me would see a lot of scrolling on a phone and I get sick of men after the first flush, decided to stay single a few years ago.

I do keep a clean home though!

Sorry op but I doubt he's even depressed, he's just being who he is.

Goldfishjane · 10/04/2017 21:01

PS death of a friend is a horrible thing to go through - the sort of thing that makes me relieved to live alone. You need to talk to him. It might be best to just end it though.

happypoobum · 10/04/2017 21:09

I have been in a relationship like this and it nearly destroyed me. My self esteem was in tatters by the end.

Stop thinking about what is wrong with him - it isn't your problem, it's just who he is. Start thinking about you. What is wrong with you that you would stay in such a horrible situation? What are you going to do to move on?

All that has happened here is that the mask has slipped. The man you are in a relationship of sorts with is the man before you. The one you had at the start was just a phantom - he couldn't keep up the pretence.

He couldn't give a shit about you or he wouldn't treat you so poorly.

There's a saying that comes to mind - the one about never treating someone as a priority when they treat you as an option. You are barely an option here.

He doesn't appear to be that special - lick your wounds from a distance and be prepared for him to try to reel you back in when he has to exert energy and effort to get a replacement skivvy/ego boost.

BitOutOfPractice · 10/04/2017 21:29

Time and again on MN I read about women moving in with / marrying / having babies with men who they've known for a matter of weeks. Who are then surprised when it turns out that he is not the man they thought he was. And I'm afraid you're in the same boat.

Footle · 10/04/2017 22:11

BitOutofPractice, so how does that apply to someone who has known their partner for 25 years, like the OP?

BitOutOfPractice · 10/04/2017 22:19

She says she has known of him, as an acquaintance, a friend of a friend. That's not knowing someone for 25 years

BitOutOfPractice · 10/04/2017 22:20

AllTorque Mon 10-Apr-17 20:25:24
He wasn't a friend, as such. I've just known him for years through mutual friends

Classybird36 · 10/04/2017 23:51

Oh for goodness sake, LEAVE!!! It's painful reading this. You deserve much better, please stop making excuses for him, get out there and meet someone else who will make you happy :) plus, he won't engage with you but occasionally stares at your boobs? What a creep!

LesisMiserable · 11/04/2017 00:13

You're flogging a dead horse and he's only saying he loves you still to be kind, sorry.

PollytheDolly · 11/04/2017 00:16

I'm sorry OP but emotional withdrawal is abuse and he's doing it on a grand scale.

He either pulls his head of his arse right now or you leave, and mean it.

TheNaze73 · 11/04/2017 07:20

Sounds like he rushed in at the start, moving you in etc & is now realising you're not the one for him

Mysterycat23 · 11/04/2017 07:30

People show you who they are through their actions. Anyone can say "I love you". Words mean nothing at all. Sorry OP.