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Boyfriend acts like he is from a different world - could he really have Asperger's?

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 13:11

Sorry, this is long! Thank you if you can bear with me.

I got together with my DBF half a year ago. We met online and there was an instant connection. He fell in love with me instantly and after his first few messages that seemed so "otherworldly", romantically old-fashioned, passionate and creative, so did I. We connected emotionally in so many ways and skipped the "small talk" and "games" bit that I find is usually present in early online stuff. He told me very painful things about his past that he had never shared with anyone before. He told me how he had been called weird all his life and that he reckoned he had some level of ASD and possibly ADHD. I know a lot about AS, so told him it wasn't a "bad" thing. He is just wired differently. We all have different talents and all are on a spectrum of "normality" vs. whatever else.

When I was to meet him the first time after 2 months of constant messages and talking on the phone (was abroad for a while), he became worried that I wouldn't like him in person. I assured him that there was no reason to think that. However, on meeting him straight off the bus (he lives a long bus ride from me), I realised that he had misled me. He appeared older, had a pony tail and had gained a considerable amount of weight (the pictures he had put online and sent to me -only 3, and only one of his face, as he said he hates his picture being taken - depicted him as being quite athletic looking with shortish hair). I felt confused, sad and angry. I held his hand for a while, but then told him that I had to go. I was devastated, as I didn't understand how he could do it to me. I deleted him from my phone, but he asked if he could write me emails. I relented. He was so sorry and devastated too. I missed him. I wanted him back.

After reconnecting, I made him come clean about his age. He was 12 years older than he had originally said, so 15 years older than me. My STBEXH is only three years younger than him,so this is not a massive leap for me, but was still hurt and grieved for the man I thought he was. He said he fell in love with me, so could not think further than that he wanted to write to me and I had set my age "preference" as younger.

He was very apologetic and admitted being a shit person. He repeatedly told me that I should just get rid of him and that I deserved better. This happens still frequently even though I have come to terms with it all and understand he wasn't meaning to be hurtful. He does come across as being quite naïve and childlike in some ways. He very much believes in fairytale romance and that I am his princess. The most beautiful girl in the world.

I have now pretty much lived with him for a few months and am moving in next month. As he is able to connect emotionally, maintains eye contact, is an attentive and passionate sex partner and tells me that he loves me all the time, I dismissed his suspected AS as being just sensitive, somewhat obsessive compulsive, anxious and behavioural result of trauma in childhood. However, for the last week I am thinking more and more that he has AS.

Once I came home from work earlier than he had expected. He was in the middle of cleaning and hardly said hi to me. I was exhausted and teary. I asked him for a hug and he cheerfully said he would just finish what he was doing (the dishes) and would hug me then. I went upstairs to lie down as I was so tired and waited for him. I assumed he would come to me after he had dried his hands, but instead he kept on cleaning. Even vacuuming around the bed when I had told him I was tired. He then came to the bed to (again) cheerfully tell me that if I was really tired I should just put my phone away and sleep. Or just get up. I started to feel very angry.

When he had stopped cleaning, I confronted him about not properly greeting me. He had chosen that particular time to thoroughly clean the house, when he could have waited a little bit to give me a hug and then maybe not vacuum and clean around me like me coming home is an inconvenience. He explained that he had wanted to clean before I came home, to make it nice for me and thought the best strategy was to clean as quickly as possible and then get to me.

He explained that he can't multitask and once he has a list of tasks in his head he has to do, he simply has to do them. He is unable to think or notice anything else. This is what made him split up with his last long term partner. DBF thought him cleaning would make me happy. He also said that cleaning is not something that "cannot be left undone even if it sucks". The house simply needed doing, so he just did what he had to do. He was only beating himself up about the fact that he didn't get to it sooner, so it would all have been done before I came. I explained that a hug and a short chat only takes a minute and that I understand that he house needed cleaning.

Seemed we misunderstood each other, although he could understand how I felt from asking him "how would you have felt if I had done this to you". So, on a level he gets it, but his world does at times seem very black and white.

He wears the same clothes in black all the time, talks about his favourite subjects with lots of knowledge of little facts, hates/fears breaking new shoes in. He also needs to think about new things a long time. Selecting a table and chairs that he would be happy with almost made me go crazy. He is also fussy with food, with a childish palate. He seems childishly cheerful and jokey when he is not down. He works in IT and used to be a mechanic, but quit because he hated having oily hands all the time. He has terrible handwriting and dyslexia.

Does this sound like ASD? He does not want a diagnosis, but I need to know what I am dealing with to be able to relate to him appropriately... I love him so much and don't want us to end up fighting about stupid stuff.

Sorry, this was an epic take! Just felt like the background was needed...

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MissGoggins · 25/03/2017 14:39

loving, mutually supportive...

I'm sure you won't, but please describe what that looks like. You are using buzz words at the moment.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/03/2017 14:42

This has DFS written all over it; disaster from the start. You still hardly know each other really. You have forgiven what many people would have walked away from.

What is love to you. Love is not just a verb, its actions as well. This to me reads more like an unhealthy co-dependent relationship.

Relationships should not be such hard work honestly.

Your boundaries are way too low here and this individual is not your project either to rescue and or save. Your own MH issues will be further magnified if you move in together and after 6 months its too soon. You are not at all qualified to diagnose anything and are going in here pretty much blind.

What does your therapist make of your relationship with this individual?.

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:47

He listens to me and I listen to him. We support each others outside relationships and interests, as well as work. We help each other in any way we can. We have a lot of fun.

I help with house work, but he gets upset if if I don't let him do it all for me. He says he needs to do these things. However, after the ridiculous "cleaning gate" (minor, and only mentioned, because that was the time that really connected me with the possibility of AS) I explicitly said that I wanted to have my share of house work and he agreed. Also, I said I would ask for a hug if he didn't notice I needed one. He was upset that he hadn't noticed. I said it was absolutely fine. Was just a very bad day and my insecurities got the best of me.

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rookiemere · 25/03/2017 14:48

Wow, you're 36 ! I thought you were in your 20s, which would make some of the stuff you've said understandable.

Look ultimately you'll do what you want, but as your DS only sees you at the weekend, please remember that he has not fallen passionately in love with comic book man and that he needs to spend time on his own with you and not with him.

You're going to now say how much your DS likes him and they have fun together. That's irrelevant. What's relevant is your DS needs to know that he comes first.

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:53

My therapist, who is very experienced many kinds of counselling (including relationships) and whom I have been seeing for a long time, says that I seem a lot happier and not "waiting for something to happen" any more, which was what defined me existence before. I am happy and want to stay with DBF and make it work.

My mh issue is dysthymia together with some anxiety and disordered eating issues, but like I said, these have been better for a relatively long time. The split from my husband helped as the relationship was dead on it's legs despite our best intentions. STBEXH is also in a new relationship and happy.

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:55

I know. "Comic book man" shall take second place when DS is here. DS is my priority and needs me alone too.

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rookiemere · 25/03/2017 14:57

That's good to know OP.

Universitychallenging · 25/03/2017 15:00

You're going to stay with this man.

But you know it's a disaster. Total and utter. He's a manipulative liar.

Put the time and effort into a relationship with your DS, not this man

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 15:00

I am very responsible and worry about everyone around me, which has led me to living my life much like how they liked me to, but am finally in a profession I love, with a man I love and looking forward to the future. My priority is DS first and foremost. He is the only one I need to worry about, but I also need to be in a good place to be a good enough parent to him. The balance is difficult, but thankfully not impossible.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/03/2017 15:00

"I am happy and want to stay with DBF and make it work".

That is a red flag to me as well; this comment sounds like you are fast becoming over invested in this newish relationship.

What is the gap in terms of months between the relationship with the ex H ending (are you actually divorced now, I only ask as you describe him as STBEXH?) and this relationship with the man you are now with?

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 15:03

I understand where you all are coming from, though. I appreciate how it can all look.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/03/2017 15:03

"DS is my priority and needs me alone too".

Good. Continue to show your son that yes he is indeed your priority.

FWIW I do not think Comic Book Man is going to be all that happy about that above thought in the long run. CBM could well be the cause of your life blowing up in your face again.

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 15:05

I am not yet divorced. It will all go through soon, though. The gap was 5 months. I wasn't intending on finding anyone so quick, just though I might meet some new people and get out of the house.

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 15:10

Well. You can never be 100% sure about the future, but I am committed to making this long term. We both are. "CBM" understands my need to prioritise my son. If that changes, that is a deal breaker. I can't see it changing, though. He is very clued up on the fact that children need a lot of love and a feeling of security, having had a difficult childhood himself.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/03/2017 15:11

Far too fast and far too soon. Your divorce is not finalised and yet you are now in another relationship with a man who you will move in with next month!. If someone else was writing this would you understand their concern as well, you barely know each other and this person has already lied to you. Where are your boundaries here in relationships, is this yet another example of living your life for other people?. You've already seen all too clearly how that has turned out.

rookiemere · 25/03/2017 15:12

You need to start being honest with yourself.

Most people join online dating forums to date and meet a new partner.
It sounds like you were desperate to meet someone new.

Look by all means continue seeing this guy if you want, but if you have concerns about things why do you need to move so fast? Keep your own property and move in on a trial basis for a month. Then see how you feel. Or better still, put the moving in plans on hold for a few more months.

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 15:21

I fully appreciate the concern. My parents have also been questioning it, but if it doesn't work out I will find out. Right now, this is the best relationship I have been in and I am enjoying it. the lying was bad, but I understand how it happened. Apart from that there are no other real concerns. Just want to understand him better the rare times we seem to be speaking in different languages.

It was pretty quick with STBEXH too and we lasted 12 years. Still love each other as friends with no drama.

Part of the online thing was to meet a potential partner, of course, but was happy to just date with no strings for a while, until DBF showed up. Am really happy on my own too. Was single for years at points in my life. I insist on making my own career and money, which DBF completely supports me with. Not that he wouldn't help me if I lost my job, of course and vice versa.

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Hissy · 25/03/2017 15:23

apparently he knew exactly what I was going to be like

Oh wow! Snap! I knew just what my boyf was going to be like too!! In his 50s, silver fox and a multi millionaire to boot! What are the odds!! That's amazing!

Except I didn't. And your bloke didn't, he's just described you as you are and you, you wombat, have fallen for it.

You are leaving an 8yo behind to go and move in with a bloke in his 50s, who actually may not even be overly healthy to live with. The only thing worse I suppose would be taking the poor mite into this mess with you.

Shame on you.

Even your therapist is pulling the wool over your eyes, or perhaps like now you're just selecting the truth you want to hear.

Howlongtilldinner · 25/03/2017 15:26

Six months..lied initially..moving in..utter madnessHmm

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 15:29

Wow. That is a little unfair. I have already "ditched" my son, if that is how you would like to put it. He deserves the stability of staying where he is. I am too poor for the neighbourhood, so shame on me. If it had been my DH moving out on us splitting, would he get the same response?

I shall now get back to my work (which I have been putting off for too long already with my amazing powers of procrastination), but will check the thread later. Thank you all for your responses.

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choli · 25/03/2017 15:30

This sounds like desperation meeting desperation to me. It's probably not going to end well for either of you.

pinkopal · 25/03/2017 15:52

He sounds abusive, not like he has Aspergers.

Marmalade85 · 25/03/2017 16:00

Comic book guy is not going to be your knight in shining armour. You need to look to yourself instead of a man to save you.

Trills · 25/03/2017 16:18

When it comes to having a romantic relationship, it doesn't matter if someone's behaviour is related to ASD or not.

It matters whether you like their behaviour.

Ellisandra · 25/03/2017 16:37

My OLD profile gave the age range 35-49.

A 51yo opened with "I'm just outside your age range so I hope you don't mind me sending you a message - I really wanted to because..."

Reader, I married him.

Well - it's booked for next year!

See - it's not hard to be honest.

Had a gut full of liars with XH. Wouldn't be interest in this liar.

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