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Boyfriend acts like he is from a different world - could he really have Asperger's?

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 13:11

Sorry, this is long! Thank you if you can bear with me.

I got together with my DBF half a year ago. We met online and there was an instant connection. He fell in love with me instantly and after his first few messages that seemed so "otherworldly", romantically old-fashioned, passionate and creative, so did I. We connected emotionally in so many ways and skipped the "small talk" and "games" bit that I find is usually present in early online stuff. He told me very painful things about his past that he had never shared with anyone before. He told me how he had been called weird all his life and that he reckoned he had some level of ASD and possibly ADHD. I know a lot about AS, so told him it wasn't a "bad" thing. He is just wired differently. We all have different talents and all are on a spectrum of "normality" vs. whatever else.

When I was to meet him the first time after 2 months of constant messages and talking on the phone (was abroad for a while), he became worried that I wouldn't like him in person. I assured him that there was no reason to think that. However, on meeting him straight off the bus (he lives a long bus ride from me), I realised that he had misled me. He appeared older, had a pony tail and had gained a considerable amount of weight (the pictures he had put online and sent to me -only 3, and only one of his face, as he said he hates his picture being taken - depicted him as being quite athletic looking with shortish hair). I felt confused, sad and angry. I held his hand for a while, but then told him that I had to go. I was devastated, as I didn't understand how he could do it to me. I deleted him from my phone, but he asked if he could write me emails. I relented. He was so sorry and devastated too. I missed him. I wanted him back.

After reconnecting, I made him come clean about his age. He was 12 years older than he had originally said, so 15 years older than me. My STBEXH is only three years younger than him,so this is not a massive leap for me, but was still hurt and grieved for the man I thought he was. He said he fell in love with me, so could not think further than that he wanted to write to me and I had set my age "preference" as younger.

He was very apologetic and admitted being a shit person. He repeatedly told me that I should just get rid of him and that I deserved better. This happens still frequently even though I have come to terms with it all and understand he wasn't meaning to be hurtful. He does come across as being quite naïve and childlike in some ways. He very much believes in fairytale romance and that I am his princess. The most beautiful girl in the world.

I have now pretty much lived with him for a few months and am moving in next month. As he is able to connect emotionally, maintains eye contact, is an attentive and passionate sex partner and tells me that he loves me all the time, I dismissed his suspected AS as being just sensitive, somewhat obsessive compulsive, anxious and behavioural result of trauma in childhood. However, for the last week I am thinking more and more that he has AS.

Once I came home from work earlier than he had expected. He was in the middle of cleaning and hardly said hi to me. I was exhausted and teary. I asked him for a hug and he cheerfully said he would just finish what he was doing (the dishes) and would hug me then. I went upstairs to lie down as I was so tired and waited for him. I assumed he would come to me after he had dried his hands, but instead he kept on cleaning. Even vacuuming around the bed when I had told him I was tired. He then came to the bed to (again) cheerfully tell me that if I was really tired I should just put my phone away and sleep. Or just get up. I started to feel very angry.

When he had stopped cleaning, I confronted him about not properly greeting me. He had chosen that particular time to thoroughly clean the house, when he could have waited a little bit to give me a hug and then maybe not vacuum and clean around me like me coming home is an inconvenience. He explained that he had wanted to clean before I came home, to make it nice for me and thought the best strategy was to clean as quickly as possible and then get to me.

He explained that he can't multitask and once he has a list of tasks in his head he has to do, he simply has to do them. He is unable to think or notice anything else. This is what made him split up with his last long term partner. DBF thought him cleaning would make me happy. He also said that cleaning is not something that "cannot be left undone even if it sucks". The house simply needed doing, so he just did what he had to do. He was only beating himself up about the fact that he didn't get to it sooner, so it would all have been done before I came. I explained that a hug and a short chat only takes a minute and that I understand that he house needed cleaning.

Seemed we misunderstood each other, although he could understand how I felt from asking him "how would you have felt if I had done this to you". So, on a level he gets it, but his world does at times seem very black and white.

He wears the same clothes in black all the time, talks about his favourite subjects with lots of knowledge of little facts, hates/fears breaking new shoes in. He also needs to think about new things a long time. Selecting a table and chairs that he would be happy with almost made me go crazy. He is also fussy with food, with a childish palate. He seems childishly cheerful and jokey when he is not down. He works in IT and used to be a mechanic, but quit because he hated having oily hands all the time. He has terrible handwriting and dyslexia.

Does this sound like ASD? He does not want a diagnosis, but I need to know what I am dealing with to be able to relate to him appropriately... I love him so much and don't want us to end up fighting about stupid stuff.

Sorry, this was an epic take! Just felt like the background was needed...

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Gallavich · 25/03/2017 13:56

Love at first sight is impossible. You can't love someone you don't know, you can only 'love' your projection of them which is completely invented. Anyone who says/thinks they love someone at first sight (or message!) is 'in love' with a concept they have created themselves, not with the real flesh and blood person.

LonginesPrime · 25/03/2017 13:58

I'd echo what PP have said (especially Goforit and Explodedcloud) - don't move in with him expecting things to change. Regardless off whether it's ASD, ADHD, social awkwardness and whether he ends up being diagnosed, it's not going to change how he is.

From the fact you're even asking whether he might have ASD, it sounds like you're not really sure what you might be getting yourself into by moving in with him. I would leave it until you know him better. Especially as the misunderstandings/drama sounds like they won't be positive for your DS when he's staying with you both.

Six months isn't long to get to know someone, especially as you say yourself that you both skipped most of the early 'getting to know someone' steps. I've had relationships that started something like this when I was younger, and in retrospect I can see that we lurched from crisis to crisis and didn't actually get time to get to know each other properly. We were stuck in the fantasy of the whole fairytale relationship thing but it didn't last as we hadn't spent sufficient time building the foundations in the early days and leapt straight into the fairytale ending.

If you want this relationship to have a future, I'd recommend putting the breaks on and taking things slower, personally.

PushingThru · 25/03/2017 13:59

Airy fairy, other worldly, black and whitey. Why are you fetishising stereotypes about ASD - you don't sound very happy with the way he behaves. You should've called it a day when he lied about his age.

rookiemere · 25/03/2017 13:59

Sorry but you seem so desperate for a relationship that you are blinded to reality.

It's really not possible to be in love with someone before you meet them particularly if they look nothing like their photo and are 10 years older than they said they were.

I'm afraid that love is never an excuse not to think things through rationally. I hope you aren't giving up a council tenancy to move in with him.

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:01

Perhaps. It is possible! I don't know. Which is why I am asking. We are very compatible in many ways. Same values and goals, similar interests. Similar backgrounds. We do connect better than I have done with anyone before. It feels right. I feel happier and more settled than I have ever before. Don't want to be anywhere else or with anyone else for the first time. Enjoy the moment and am grateful. Just want to understand him when these kinds of misunderstandings happen (rarely, but still!).

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GeorgeTheHamster · 25/03/2017 14:02

Even if you believe in love at first sight, surely you can see that this couldn't possibly happen over the Internet??

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:06

I don't think I am desperate. Am happy alone too. Dated other interested and interesting people, but in the end, he was the one I couldn't stop thinking about.

Rationally thinking, I am happy, so did forgive his initial lie. All is well now, just wondering about the possible AS. Never seen this obliviousness before the "cleaning gate". I know it's a stupid small incident, but an example of what I mean...

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:08

I did not believe s the whole love at first sight thing either, but apparently he knew exactly what I was going to be like, so his projections were on point. Mine too, for the most part.

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BubblingUp · 25/03/2017 14:09

The rigid thinking would be a deal breaker for me. He sounds emotionally immature too. Yuck.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 25/03/2017 14:09

He has specifically stated he does not want to be diagnosed. So stop trying to diagnose him.

picklemepopcorn · 25/03/2017 14:10

How long have you known him in the actual world, rather than virtually?

Think about how you felt when he was unable to be emotionally available to you because of the cleaning. Will you manage, especially with MH problems, if he is like that a lot? It is hard to be intimate and close with someone over the years if you have to train yourself to be emotionally independent from them.

He may well learn what you expect of him, but it will always be hard for him to respond to your needs.

Whether he has a diagnosis or not, can you live with him knowing this? It isn't unusual for people with ASD to 'choose' someone in this way, but his focus on you will only take you so far.

MissGoggins · 25/03/2017 14:12

My head is fried reading this. It sounds like a couple of teenagers. Op has an adult child, so must, oh be let's say minimum age 33, which makes him minimum age of 48...
Confused
No idea about asd. Agree with pp saying it is largely irrelevant apart from acting as a way to martyr yourself to stay in a dysfunctional relationship.

Branleuse · 25/03/2017 14:13

It does sound as if he could be aspie, since thats what youre asking

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:13

I don't need a diagnosis, just want to be able to understand him. you do have a point, though. I should talk to him about how he thinks. A diagnosis would not help me understand his own particular self. Also "airy fairy"and black and white is how he comes across from me. I am not generalising to others with or without AS.

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:17

Not feeling like a martyr. Just love him and don't want to do him the disservice of misinterpreting his innocent actions as being deliberate. I know our tale can sound a little ridiculous, and I appreciate your thoughts on it.

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:20

Re mental health, I am well now, but my symptoms of anxiety and depression can hit me at stressful times. Generally am better than have been for a long time. I see a therapist regularly and am on medication.

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Hissy · 25/03/2017 14:20

Your username is your response to all sensible advice given.

So knock yourself out, leave your kid behind and bugger the consequences.

This has train crash written all over it, but as they say "yesyesyeswhatever"....

Hissy · 25/03/2017 14:21

"I just love him"

The 4 most dangerous words that exist.

Teabagtits · 25/03/2017 14:22

Labelling won't change him. It's almost irrelevant why he is the way he is, you just need to work out whether you can cope with him as he is and whether your life will be as you want it to be.

Fwiw I've known a lot of people to get involved online first then in real life. Some even got married but none of them lasted as they all hoped the other half would change in time. It doesn't happen (and shouldn't!)

Good luck op

MissGoggins · 25/03/2017 14:23

Just love him

Confused

Please elaborate as I read nothing indicative of love in your relationship from your posts.

InTheMoodForLove · 25/03/2017 14:25

to be honest I believe you were totally unreasonable to (split hair) get annoyed about his cleaning and not "greeting you properly"

I also think the love you are analysing this man is somehow extreme

He lied to you and you accepted that, you didn't fancy him when you saw him but were (addicted to the attention) and missed it and carried on...
You are now thinking to move in after such a short time and with so many doubts... I find your thinking really confusing

Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:25

That is a bit harsh about "leaving my kid behind". I already live separate from him, since the split last spring, but see him every week and talk to him every day. I care about him and me and STBEXH has been a good parent, so my DS is not "abandoned". I cannot afford to live in DS's area, so he would have to switch schools to live with me where-ever I went. So it's best he stays at home with his loving father.

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:29

I appreciate I am seeming illogical and frustrating, but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship. Just wondering about AS, really...

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Yesyesyesyeswhatever · 25/03/2017 14:31

I am 36 and he is 51, to clear that one up. My DS is 8.

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reallyanotherone · 25/03/2017 14:38

You need to stop analysing him. You either accept how he is, or leave him.

Fwiw you could be describing me. If i were in the middle of cleaning it would utterly piss me off if he started demanding i stopped what i was doing to pander to his "tiredness". The cleaning needs doing, it's half your job anyway, so you should eother help or appreciate the fact he is doing it all because you are too tired.

I agree with pp who said you want to pin your incompatibilty on a disease or syndrome so you can martyr yourself to it.

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