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Utterly predictable ending. But I just couldn't admit it.

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hareinthemoon · 23/02/2017 21:57

So - let's just start with the fact that despite having been on mn for ages, and read all the posts that sound very much like this one I'm about to write, I just somehow thought that I would be different. And I'm in the same shitty place as all those other women who thought their dh would never, in a million years, act like the other douchebags...

And even worse, I am 20 months into a separation and am only just now beginning to accept the situation. I am just in such pain and part of it is because I have been hoping all along that stbxh was just having a mid life crisis and would come to his senses before the plug was actually pulled. But I was wrong in a thousand ways.

Stbxh has been noticeably unhappy for about the past three years, since I turned 50. I knew this but he had been miserable for at least the 8 years before that - depressed at the failure of a business; I took on a counselling sort of role and we limped along for a bit. I knew he wasn't happy but assumed it was with his life, which was not going the way he wanted it to. I thought it was a rough patch we were going through - busy with the children and the demands of jobs etc. I was hoping that with DD off to uni and DS starting college we would have a bit more time together to concentrate more on the relationship and could come closer together again.

Because when we first met I just fell so deeply in love, it felt so magical, and I have been trying all this time to get it back to that. I'm not mourning the relationship as it was in the past few years, but it's so hard to let go of the memory of how it was when it started. I couldn't even begin to count up the number of self-help books and websites and mantras I've taken on and I know that 'the man I'm divorcing is not the man I married' - that's because the man I married would not have had an utterly predictable affair with a woman ten years younger than me and then lied all about it, the whole time, avoiding having sex with me because of his ED but taking Viagra to be with her, would not have cried about the therapy he was having that he said was all about the silly mistakes that he made that should never have broken our marriage up (but were all about how he wanted to be with her - ironically she broke it off with him because she caught him in a lie, and he has been obsessed with getting her back while telling me he wanted to change). He would not have been telling me that he thought he would regret breaking the marriage up somewhere down the line, telling me about his counselling, and all the while obsessing about one other woman and sexting yet another one...

I feel like a fool but I so wanted to believe him and to believe in him. On the weekend I found out as much of the truth, finally, as I needed to know to accept that this has been a lie for years and that any intimations of regret were just to keep me from causing a fuss. But I am so mourning the loss of my family and of that man who I now know was a fantasy - and how do you mourn a fantasy without feeling like an idiot?

Tonight we had the first discussion that was based on any kind of truth. As soon as I found out about the affair he drove the 80 miles to where she lives (where we used to live, when it started, I suppose) and told me he'd only be back if she didn't accept him back. I was here looking after our son (he is normally the resident parent) and there was no comeback to that. He stayed out; I imagine he told her he'd finally told me about them (though in fact I found out and confronted him, I don't know how long it would have taken otherwise). Since then he has been to the bank to try to close the joint account, appointed a solicitor, and talked to his work about taking early retirement so he can move to be with her.

We've been married for almost 20 years. Our son has 18 months of college left; I would have stayed but got the chance of a funded study position elsewhere, stbxh was working locally, and so we decided he would be the one in the house looking after our son and I would move. Now stbxh is saying his mental state is precarious and he is not sure how he will cope staying in the area for 18 months. If I have to move back to look after our son during his A-levels I will have to do it but it will impact very negatively on my studies, perhaps funding, etc.

If I'd known about the affair from the beginning I would have thought twice about taking the funded position. So many things could have been more sensibly worked through. But the lies have not only caused me to wonder if there was hope for our relationship; they have meant I have missed time waiting for him to 'come to his senses' when I could have been moving on. I could have been preparing the DCs better instead of trying to keep everybody happy by playing happy families. I could have come to terms with much sooner with who it was I actually married instead of the fantasy man I thought I had. The lies have turned me into a crazy person, trying to fit information that only half fit into stories that I tried to believe in.

I know I'm an idiot but that's what lies do to you. I'm just looking for some hand holding I guess, and people to tell me it gets better and people can learn to trust again.

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Theoscargoesto · 25/02/2017 17:03

You know what, she probably isn't angry at you. But she IS angry and it is safe to direct it at you. There's a big difference. I have this with my 2 DDs and have to remind myself sometimes, as I ask you to do, that I did nothing wrong. Ok we weren't joyful all the time and j take some responsibility for that, but i was prepared to work at us, I didn't have an affair, I didn't leave.
Oh and 2 years in I got (and am still getting) a bloody good shag. There is hope!!

hareinthemoon · 25/02/2017 17:08

Theos hurrah!!!!! I live in hope then. And I know you're right. She has always offloaded onto me and despite having to don protective outerwear I have always been glad - I could never have done that with my mother - and I really did love my mum. I just wanted to be able to talk with her. I am going to imprint your words on my brain - it isn't my fault.

What is interesting is that when I told DS that DD was angry he got on the phone to her. They are having a long conversation. He is growing up before my eyes. It is nice. They have both, I think, wanted to be closer and perhaps it just needed a focus to group together on.

Thanks George

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hareinthemoon · 26/02/2017 00:09

Seriously, I've just lost my faith in - well I was going to say humanity, but I mean men. And when I say men, I mean him. And I had such faith in him, there is a massive hole where that faith used to be, and that faith used to fill a bigger space than even I knew. I feel utterly bereft.

And yet, at the same time, I know he is the most appalling specimen of humanity and I am well rid. Except this is MN, and all the other threads are about other specimens of humanity who have done EXACTLY THE SAME THING to women who convinced themselves that there was the most incredible connection and an ethereal bond of emotions.

It felt SO true. And it was not. I just feel like there is no solid ground under my feet, and I can't believe a single word he has ever said to me, ever.

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JohnnyMarr · 26/02/2017 02:38

Hare your last post sums up exactly how I'm feeling, in fact your entire thread does, but you have expressed it all far more eloquently than I could have done.

I'm in a very similar position, a month in but third (I know, I know) time around. There have clearly been so many lies, so much gaslighting, and I was taken in by it time and time again. It's utterly impossible now to separate the lies from the reality or even to be sure whether reality as I perceived it ever really existed at all.

As well as the ongoing emotional turmoil I too am in a decidedly precarious financial position, it's as though H has flicked a switch and I am less than nothing to him.

Hopefully we too will come out the other side Flowers

hareinthemoon · 26/02/2017 08:27

Oh Johhny how awful. It just flays your brain, doesn't it? A week before they were telling you how important you were to them, and suddenly - snake eyes.

We just have to remind ourselves that whatever lies were told to us, they were not because of us, not even because we were willing to believe them. It's not gullible to believe someone who - in my case - just cannot tell the difference between truth and lies. I know he is going back over the story of the past 20 years, retelling it to minimise my part, reframing it to be a story of just waiting for the next love of his life. Truth becomes a meaningless concept in this scenario. The story can easily move around because it only has one main character and everyone else in it is merely a prop that either supports that character or that must be dropped from the story.

And we know this - but still the pain continues, and it is so unwieldy because it's made up of so many different parts. I'm not great at just leaving things alone and forgetting them - it is in my nature to try to make sense of, understand and solve problems, but I don't think we are going to ever understand this. We will have to take the good advice on this thread (and all the bloody others) and just move forward step by step, just doing, not thinking. Some discipline required. I am going to access some counselling through where I study and hope it helps me do this.

Good luck to us both, to everyone in the same boat. Flowers

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hareinthemoon · 02/03/2017 20:22

Update: DD rang him and kicked his arse. I've had a short email saying he is committed to giving our son "a stable and safe home for the remainder of his A-levels."

DD said he was really angry that I'd said anything - about him saying he wasn't sure he could commit - to our children. He's been so used to everything being about him that he just isn't coping when it isn't. I had a long talk with DS and have found some other selfish things he has said and done. It's quite extraordinary how entitled he is. But to the world he's an unselfish, caring, sensitive bloke.

And knowing all this about him, and with one part of my mind and heart just despising him, sometimes I wake up and the first thing that pops into my mind is that he's gone, and I find it hard all over again.

And I really need to do some work, which involves extended thinking, and I am not managing that very well at all.

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loinnir · 03/03/2017 14:49

Counselling is available at Uni and is free (even for part time students) fro anything that might be affecting your ability to work or stay on course . May be worth looking into if you need a "listening ear"

hareinthemoon · 03/03/2017 17:38

Thanks loin , I've booked but can't get an appointment for 5-6 weeks (dissertation time at unis!) and can't get a GP appointment for 3 (I don't think I'm acute...I will think again if I can't get it together - today has been very slightly better).

My lovely lovely supervisor has given me some strategies. I'm really lucky.

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