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How to tell him I want to postpone wedding

324 replies

FrugalFot · 02/02/2017 09:27

Hi,
I'm new here and I am looking for advice on how to tell my fiancé that I want to postpone the wedding but doing it in a way that is not going to be 'jilting'.

It's all about money really and I know that shouldn't be a factor if you want to get married but I feel under a lot of pressure.
About a 18 months ago, I went freelance. At the time my parents were really supportive, particularly my dad and he lent me the money to buy my expensive camera equipment and I gave up my rented flat in a city I loved to move back in with them rent free while I got on my feet.

Meanwhile my boyfriend was living and working in another city and he was buying a house. He had much more savings then meas he bought and sold a house with a really good profit and his jobs have been higher paid. I've been paid peanuts to learn my craft so to speak, plus he's 7 years older so more advanced in his career.

He asked me to move in andat first Isaid I couldn't because I wasn't really earning a profit yet. He said he'd put me down in his mortgage application as an additional ÂŁ400 a month income and he thought that was a reasonableamount to expect from mebut he understood if I couldn't pay that straight away.

And he said that we would probably save ÂŁ400 a month in traveling back and to and meeting halfway to go out. And he pointed out, I'd be there all the time anyway, which was true as much as my work is in his city.

And he was right, I was, so I agreed as I didn't want to take advantagebut after a couple of months he started to get cross if I couldn't give him the ÂŁ400 yet.I was still getting money pretty sparodically.And then my dad was getting cross with me if I couldn't pay him any money towards the loan. And I couldn't tell him I was struggling as we had rowed about it when I said I was moving out.

Since then, I've been constantly worried about money and it's wearing me down and I can't sleep or talk to anyone. I've got myself in a mess.

Six months after I moved in, he surprised me for my birthday with a trip to Paris and proposed and I said yes. But the pressure's just mounted. Paris was expensive and I didn't have loads of money to spend as I hadn't been expecting it, so on the last day we had to share a lunch between us and I felt awful.

Because I'd got my engagement ring for my birthday, he hinted he'd like a playstation for his and I just couldn't afford it and he was really disappointed. When I got my first pretty big cheque I wanted to go to IKEA to buy a desk and a chair and it ended in a row that I didn't buy anything for the house.

Anyway, in the last year, things have really picked up for me and I'm doing well, but money-wise I just can't keep up with everything and I still have no clothes and no highlights in my hair.

The wedding is in August and things are getting serious. My BF took voluntary redundancy from his job and got quite a big payoff. I encouraged him to as he had been unhappy and said if worse came to the worse, we could do some work together (both creative fields).

He hasn't had any work to speak of and his redundancy money is dwindling and he is getting cross about it. And he blames me a little bit. He says I persuaded him, but I thought I was just being encouraging and supportive. I get annoued when I go out on a morning job and come back just before lunch and he's still in bed.

My dad has given us ÂŁ5,000 towards the wedding, which we decided to use on just an amazing trip away as he wanted to get married abroad. The deposit's already been paid. I wanted to be with friends and family so we compromised on a small civil ceremony and party here. But the costs for this are mounting. To try and make up for it, so it's not all about me, and because I've got the nice ring, my BF wanted to get a tailor-made suit which is costing a lot and I went for a really cheap dress but I hate it.

I am an eternal optimist and I always think the money will come in from this big job soon, but it never comes in time and I'm worried.

I feel like it's all a mess, but I feel so responsible, like I got us here and I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
WhatsGoingOnEh · 02/02/2017 20:55

it just feels like we can never quite agree

OP! Imagine what it'll be like living with this, day after day after day after day after day...

I had that with my first DH and it exhausted both of us. We were like strawberries and lager - both lovely indivisually but DISGUSTING together.

With 2nd DH, we agree on everything, and it's blissful.

Miserylovescompany2 · 02/02/2017 20:56

I think he's projecting...

"What does it mean to project your feelings?
Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings"

The remark about a therapist having a field day regarding your relationship with your father speaks volumes. As does the bitch comment when he thought you were sleeping...

I don't think he'll let you go easily, he'll press every single one of your buttons systematically in-order to get a response. He'll use the sympathy card or invent some illness that he'll claim he didn't tell you about because he was protecting you. Seriously OP, he'll go to extraordinary lengths and unravel before your very eyes.

Make sure you tie up all loose ends before you leave for good. Make sure you have NO reason to return or he has no reason to make impromptu visits "bringing something you forget" or any excuse to manipulate you.

I hope you are getting real life support from your mum and dad. They sound like wonderful caring people btw.

If at all possible? I would try and speak with one of his ex partners. Because these type of men repeat the same pattern, they just tweak here and there to perfect their manipulative charade.

JuneFromBethesda · 02/02/2017 20:57

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across all Smug Married. My husband isn't perfect and neither am I. But it's ok not to be Smile

NoFuckingRoomOnMyBroom · 02/02/2017 21:01

Another one saying he sounds awful, please tell your parents everything & leave him.

cheesydoesit · 02/02/2017 21:01

I echo all the advice given but I also wanted to say that you do sound lovely and not to doubt yourself or feel inferior to anyone. You sound really interesting, creative and driven in your career. I wish I could be that focused. I hope it goes well at your parents.

Quartz2208 · 02/02/2017 21:09

It sounds likeh has put you on a pedestal and created and image of who he thinks you are or should be and can't handle anything you do that shakes that image. He has created a personality for you off this dutzy girl who needs rescuing.

But remember no one here has actually met him they are simply reading what you want and your thoughts and it comes across as if you don't love him and don't want to marry him but are both afraid of being on your own and not living up to your sisters and hurting him. At the very least don't settle

And the parent thing sounds like he wants to isolate you I see my parents a lot and we go on holiday with them and my oh has never complained (in part due to them being my childcare whilst at work)

oleoleoleole · 02/02/2017 21:15

Please please do not marry him. It is easier to walk away now and start again than once,you've signed the piece of paper as you'll feel utterly trapped then. This isn't pre wedding nerves, you are unhappy!

HazelBite · 02/02/2017 21:15

If he was the right person for you, you wouldn't be stressing about all of this, you would be working it all out together, and neither of you would be caring about what you were getting married in, and all the detail!

sofiainwonderland · 02/02/2017 21:20

Tbh I'd CANCEL the wedding and run for the hills. Sorry.

LavenderDoll · 02/02/2017 21:25

Do not marry him. Tell your parents everything and move back home. He's not a nice man at all.

Needtofiddle · 02/02/2017 21:29

Frugal - you sound lovely. Genuine, creative, funny, interesting.
He wants to change you. Change your bedtime. Change the books you read. The things you do. The time you out into your work. Change your attitude to living together - baking a cake ffs?

What strikes me is that he thinks he is superior to you in every way. Academically, career wise, emotionally, more organised, more healthy. And he wants to change you into what he thinks you should be. He sounds so fucked up. Your parents sound great by the way. I have parents a therapist would have a field day with and they aren't like yours. He wants you to be dependent on HIM. He finds your relationship (healthy and happy) with your dad threatening. My guess is he doesn't really like your friends and will point out their bad points to you - out of concern of course. (Bollocks)

He sounds really horrid. Controlling . Insecure. Undermining. Unpleasant. He called you a bitch when you were sleepy and drunk. How fucked up is that? That is his opinion of you shining through and accidentally you heard it. He doesn't like you. He may profess to love you but what he 'loves' (and I don't think it is anywhere near love) is HIS IMAGE OF YOU.

Please lovey, run away. This is not healthy or nice. He didn't buy you lunch in Paris after proposing to you because you ran out of money. Can't you see how fucked up that is? If you have kids with this man it will become. Million times worse. Your life will be so much more miserable than it already is. And that bullshit about you being responsible,e for his depression if you leave him? That is manipulative controlling BULLSHIT. He knows how badly he is treating you and is working by undermining you then forcing his emotional wellbeing and possible life (suicide threats) onto you.

Friends saying you complement each other? Ignore that shit. What they mean is he is less fucking awful as you dilute him. Is that what you want your life to be? He should make you feel good about yourself and all I am reading is a lovely interesting woman being crushed by an insecure and very fucked up man.

Leave. Leave. Leave.
Please listen to us.

sunflowerblue · 02/02/2017 21:32

I am so, so glad you've gone to chat to your mum frugal

I've just read through the whole thread with my heart in my mouth. I can only echo what others have said. Get yourself out, don't let him make you feel guilty for making your own happiness a priority, and don't look back.

Be prepared for a great performance from him. He may promise all sorts of changes, to go to counselling etc etc. Please don't believe any of it, he's already told you everything you need to know about who he is.

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 02/02/2017 21:40

I think we all feel so relieved, that you have gone home to confide in your parents. You sound such a nice family.

LooksBetterWithAFilter · 02/02/2017 21:40

I hope you're having a good chat to your mum and tell her how you're really feeling.
You remind me of me in a lot of ways. I can be a bit chaotic and disorganised. My memory is terrible at times. I have to work hard on staying organised. Dh is super organised it comes so easily to him. He does find it frustrating at times but he never gets angry. I'm also 10 years older than you and I am fully aware of my faults and work.really hard to combat them. Dh mostly finds my chaos endearing. We really do compliment each other. He helps.keep me grounded and I add a bit of humour and relaxing to his life.
We also went to Paris last year. He told you to take ÂŁ150 then never bought you lunch?? That wouldn't even have lasted one of us for food for the 4 days we were there never mind any of the shopping we did. He set you up to fail there answer you felt guilty for it.
Please leave. You are so young. I nearly married a man that I kept telling myself I loved. I got carried along with it like you my parents have been married forever so has my brother. I think I felt I should rather than really wanted to. It was hard leaving but honestly life was much less stressful with it him in it. And we had dc so had to stay in contact and he was the gift that kept giving. He reminded me time and time again why we split up through his behaviour and he still blames me for it. His mental health is not your responsibility. You can't fix him.

TurnipCake · 02/02/2017 22:00

OP, you remind me exactly of me when I was your age and stuck in a shitty, abusive relationship. I promise your life will be so much better without him.

The one thing I regret is not telling my parents sooner about everything. Like yours, they were polite about him, but never said they liked him or us as a couple. The entire family breathed a collective sigh of relief when I left him and helped me get back on my feet.

I hope you're having a good chat with them, you've achieved so much for yourself, this idiot is dragging you down.

CocoaX · 02/02/2017 22:10

Oh my dear, I have only read the first page; please do not marry this man. Better to pull out now when nothing is signed than try to divorce after wards. I didn't want to get married but I lacked the courage to walk away - I was also pregnant. It is not easy to divorce a controlling person especially once you have DC.

picklemepopcorn · 02/02/2017 22:33

I've only read a few posts, but OP, please don't marry him.

He has set up a dynamic where you are constantly failing to meet his expectations, so need to try harder to please him. He is making decisions which involve you, without your input. He is building his life around your contribution without your permission. He may seem a nice guy, and not realise the implications of what he is doing, but he is being extremely controlling and you haven't noticed. Get out now. Now. He is trapping you. Listen to your anxiety. He's even causing problems with your family, by setting up situations where you choose him over them.

lougle · 02/02/2017 22:50

Oh FrugalSad I bet you'd only have to say the sentence 'What would you say if I said I didn't want to get married?' to your Mum and Dad, and you'd know everything there was to know and have their full support. Be brave Flowers

MyWineTime · 02/02/2017 23:06

I am so glad you have gone to your parents. Please tell them everything so you have some moral support. Then leave him.
You do not need to be married to be successful. Get yourself on your feet in your own right, then you will find someone you can have an equal relationship with.

Badgoushk · 02/02/2017 23:22

Frugal you sound just like my kind, friendly, slightly scatty, clever friend. Please don't marry this guy. He's not the one for you. You deserve so much better. Let him go out and meet his cake-baking, literature-reading new girlfriend who will fulfil him. He's going to drain your joyfulness away if you stay together.

FrugalFot · 03/02/2017 00:05

So that went well, I feel good in a way. I won't when I get home like but tomorrow is another day!

I started off telling her that I was feeling so stressed and that I'd been thinking about the possibility of postponing the wedding and that had set me off in thinking that maybe the whole thing wasn't right! I was determined not to cry but failed in that after the first two words came out of my mouth.

Anyway, she was a bit sad and a bit worried but mainly relieved yes. She said she was gutted when I first said I was getting married because they'd wanted me to focus on my work and enjoying it and make the most of the opportunities that are on the horizon rather than get more involved with BF who they thought was holding me back a bit. She said they were surprised because they hadn't thought I'd want to get married and tied down yet.

But she said she was beginning to come round to the idea because she appreciated a couple of things he'd done and thought he might be a good influence after all - like he persuaded me to sell my motorbike and she hated that thing! And he also persuaded me to go to a hypnotherapist to quit smoking. It didn't work, I don't think I can get hypnotised, but nobody knows that but me and my sister, and I suspect my dad.

She just said she wants be to be happy and whatever that is, they're more than up for it. She got a bit less diplomatic when I told her some of the stuff like the 8 mile walk and what he said about my relationship with them and the whole 'bitch' thing. And when I told her how much pressure I was feeling under about money, she started to get a bit angry. And cross with me for not talking about it sooner.

Apparently my dad predicted disaster when he quit his job because he questions BF's work ethic. But that's about the only opinion he's expressed.

He went to a different room when he figured out I was chatting about emotional stuff. But he stuck his head round when I was blubbing to mum about the money wasted on the wedding so far.

He just said it's no skin off their nose as the ÂŁ5,000 for a wedding is a one time only deal, so the next time I plan one, I'll only be getting the remaining balance. And he won't knock it off the camera loan. Fine by me.

So now I've told them all that, I've got to do it haven't I! I felt relieved when we were talking about it but then I realised, I've got to do it yet.

Mum got quite stern and said I've got to stop floating through situations and get my head out of my arse and sort it. And if she starts to think I'm taking too long about it, she's going to apply the pressure. I've got a sneaky suspicion that when I left she went straight up to survey the spare room to see how much stuff she's going to have to find storage for to make way for me.

So now to figure out what to say and when to have the conversation. I know it's not going to be easy at all. He's not going to just let me walk out.

Anyway, thank you so much to you all. I can't believe so many people took time out to comment, and lots of you more than once. You really gave me the courage to admit it was all madness. I'm really grateful.

And now I am setting off back home!

OP posts:
HelenaDove · 03/02/2017 02:44

Ugh what an abusive fuckwit.

Please for the love of Christ...........LTB

theothercatpurred · 03/02/2017 02:44

Frugal you are truly awesome. This isn't an easy situation, not at all, but you are facing it head on.

Well done you also for having the wisdom to go to the people who love you, not to suffer in silence. I only hope when my DC are grown they do the same if they are in trouble if any sort.

Wishing you luck and strength for the next bit. Beware his mind games! This next bit is like pulling a plaster off - you know it's going to hurt in the short term but it can't be helped as it needs to get done. No point dragging it out. You can do it xx

fukkigucci · 03/02/2017 03:06

Good luck!

RockyBird · 03/02/2017 03:42

he's not going to let me just walk out

It's not up to him. You can do it whatever way you want to.