Warning about posting in the Relationships Topic on Mumsnet

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Don't do it if you don't want your personal stories lifted and splashed all over the Mail Online.

The DM used to restrict themselves to copying and pasting mainly made up (Penis Beaker), lighthearted or neutral threads.

But now they are quite happy to publish deeply personal and very identifying threads too from people posting at crisis point.

I do actually foresee Mumsnet's inability to prevent this being the end of the website tbh. Or MN as we know and love it, anyway.

I know we've had a zillion threads about this already, but I just want to remind people again:

Don't post on Mumsnet if you don't want your thread to be reproduced in the Mail Online.

Fucking hell Under

"Only because you know I'm right" ha haaa! Haven't heard that since my youngest was about 3.

Interesting about the reply from HQ. Perhaps we should all change our name to a name like User's. The site would fold within weeks.

Sad isn't it?

How about UserHatesLazyJournos? Anyone willing to allocate numbers?

What really has upset me is that I started a thread about a year ago that I really could do with resurrecting as the situation has become worse. The advice I got was fantastic but I daren't update

I think that we should replace "Usernnnnnnnnn" with "Cuntnnnnnnnnnn" - by the time the DM has redacted all the Cunts it would be almost impossible to follow the discussion.

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That poor poster

Her husband left her on NYE, and the DM are all over it like a rash! Shameful!

People shouldn't need reminding that their info can be spread far and wide once posted here. Common sense tells you once you posT, your info is a click away for the world to see.

We tell our kids to watch what is posted online, so we should do the same.

Personally, I think it's good for the wider public to see how horrible such betrayals are. It might just strike a cord with people and signpost them to MN for support.

Regarding Relationships, for many pps the problem is more whether their OHs find their posting history than an article on Femail.

MN is big and has a Facebook page with stories that can be shared and copied.
So, when you post always remember that anyone online could read it.
And there's OTBT, but even that isn't safe.
Think who could identify you and change a few details if you must.

Personally, I could be ripped to shreds by the Mail that it wouldn't affect me, as I do read anything there very very rarely.

Regarding Relationships, for many pps the problem is more whether their OHs find their posting history than an article on Femail.

This ^^

MN aren't going to stop it - it benefits them.

This is a public website - you don't even have to log in to read posts.

Sadly I think it's the way the online press are heading now - one of the posters with an anti-DM name was quoted in the Mirror, and the Indie has done it too.

If you put anything in the public domain you risk this happening. The post about NYE is available to any person in the world to read.

And yet every time we get a thread like this, someone suggests copyright infringement, putting disclaimers and the ultra mature solution of name changing to something anti-DM.

But by drawing attention to it every time it happens, you potentially increase traffic between the two sites (a bit like when people link to the DM while slagging it off )

It's happening

It's not pleasant but it's a PUBLIC site

People need to stop treating the internet as a 'safe space' - it isn't...

Although it always surprises me how many people who purport to hate the DM obviously read it to be aware of this kind of thing

I think it's absolutely despicable of them - unethical, lazy, and in the poorest of all possible tastes. Of course, the internet isn't a 'private' space - but nor is it 'journalism' to lift stories off another site. It's just prurient muck-racking of the lowest kind.

I don't care if the individual journalists doing this are young trainees, they are adults and morally responsible for their actions. If the internet is a free-for-all, which is the argument that is always made in these cases, then why don't we turn the tables on this behaviour? We could have a squad that calls these journos out on social media, preferably in front of their friends and family, and makes them feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves. If a child or friend of mine worked in a job preying on the vulnerable like that, I'd bloody disown them!

I always used to class MN as a safe place, now I wouldn't dream of posting anything personal.

It's certainly lazy to cut and paste from another site but the reason other news sites are doing
It too is that it works. It increases their clicks, it increases potential membership for MN.

They are businesses - if it didn't work then they wouldn't do it.

Anyone posting can have their post read by absolutely anyone - copying an anonymous post from one site to another isn't journalism but they aren't doing anything wrong.

I think 'preying on the vulnerable' is a little bit of an exagerration though (I know they did do this once but other than that I think people need to get a grip)

AQuiet But why would you class a publicly available Internet forum as a safe space?

That's the attitude I think should be encouraged AQuietMind. HQ will disagree of course. They don't want to put people off sharing their rl stories because that will simply destroy the usp of the site.

People need to stop treating the internet as a 'safe space' - it isn't...

^^ This.

People shouldn't need to be told that if they post identifiable information about themselves on public internet platforms there's a chance that someone who knows them might read it and identify them.

Knowing that if you don't want to be identified then you keep your information safe is the first rule of the internet. Frankly people who don't know that shouldn't be posting online, here or anywhere else.

We drum it into our kids about staying safe online and yet it appears that adults don't appear to have yet grasped the basic principles.

MN has always been quoted in the press etc. Five years ago there was the same uproar about putting FB like buttons on posts, with calls of how the vulnerable were going to be outed and put at risk yada yada yada. And yet the world kept turning, and the predicted mass exodus didn' happen.

The daily mail and its ilk are just shit publications. But here's the thing, if you don't want to read mn posts in them then don't read them. It really isn't that hard. But talk of praying on the vulnerable and people in the depths of despair losing their only sense of support, in the world? Really? Is just hysterical rubbish.

MN is just as public as the daily mail. No more, no less. And if your safety is being put at risk by posting in the daily mail then your safety is being put at risk by posting on MN. Not least because if someone has a controlling partner that control likely also extends to what they do online.

Yes Sandy. Am I saying anything different?

Oh and there's every chance that the threads being lifted are posted as bate by journo's looking for something to lift and publish.

This site has no USP - except for being populated by 'vipers' - if the RL board shut down tomorrow, the site would keep going.

It wouldn't be the same site but then it isn't the same site it was a year ago, two years ago etc - things move on!

And anyone who thinks the majority of these threads are legit is naive

Again, Wannabe, you agree with me. And if HQ feel the need to post warnings about sending cash on the begging threads and that advice on the health and legal threads isn't usually being given by qualified individuals (when you'd think such a reminder shouldn't be necessary!) then why the reluctance to accept a general warning about thinking about where details about your relationship might end up on every thread?