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Warning about posting in the Relationships Topic on Mumsnet

370 replies

bibbitybobbityyhat · 04/01/2017 16:33

Don't do it if you don't want your personal stories lifted and splashed all over the Mail Online.

The DM used to restrict themselves to copying and pasting mainly made up (Penis Beaker), lighthearted or neutral threads.

But now they are quite happy to publish deeply personal and very identifying threads too from people posting at crisis point.

I do actually foresee Mumsnet's inability to prevent this being the end of the website tbh. Or MN as we know and love it, anyway.

I know we've had a zillion threads about this already, but I just want to remind people again:

Don't post on Mumsnet if you don't want your thread to be reproduced in the Mail Online.

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:16

Every time I post, OP, you have a personal dig. I'm not sure why you are specifically pulling me on every thread - I (and others) have asked you this before but you weren't able to answer.

If we are going to have warnings about the DM could we also have warnings that people will reference previous (and irrelevant) posts by other posters?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:21

And if you have been here more than two seconds you know that referencing other threads is bad form.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:29

TrickFish

It was started in Relationships to remind posters that the Mail Online is not above lifting identifying and sensitive threads from the Relationships Topic to put on their website any more. On the whole people seem to think that they only raid AIBU and Chat, so its just a heads up.

Some think its "silly" some think it's worthwhile.

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TrickFish · 05/01/2017 21:32

And the arguing with posters on every page? Is that a helpful warning too?

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:36

Liv - do feel free to pm me, don't want to derail any more.

I want to talk about the Mail Online and copyright on Mumsnet and all that sort of stuff on the thread.

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:37

And yet you also want to argue with people - please see other comments on the thread...

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:38

Of course I'll argue my case if someone disagrees with me. Is arguing against Talk Guidelines now?

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:40

No but calling people liars is, just for info...

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:42

As I said, Livia, do feel free to pm me.

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:43

I think I would rather stick pins in my eyes, but thanks anyway

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:47

Oh and I'm not the only one who has dared to disagree with you on the thread so you may want to extend your offer to other posters? No? Thought not - just me then Grin

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:47

WannaBe
You didn't give the rl name of the poster who was doing journo work for the Mail when it all kicked off in 2009. But you gave her Mumsnet posting name. So anyone reading this could easily find out who the journalist was by looking at the Mail Online and the MNthreads at the time and find out her real name. And then read everything private she had written about her life on Mumsnet before and after that date. I hope she's had it all deleted.

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:49

Who has that kind of time to search and cross reference?

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:49

Lots of people disagree with me on the thread but they aren't intent on derailing it. If any of them want to pm me then they are free to do so but they don't seem to be as obsessed Livvy.

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Twogoats · 05/01/2017 21:53

Does anyone have the name of the op of the divorce thread? I want to check she's okay.,Sad

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 05/01/2017 21:53

GrinGrinGrin Says the person who can't help having a go whenever I dare to disagree...

I don't know what your particular issue is with me but I suggest you get over it - remembering what someone said on a thread from a month ago is a tad obsessed

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/01/2017 21:58

Liv, I'm going to send you a pm ok? If you don't want to read it then just delete it from your inbox.

Twogoats - I'm afraid I can't remember. I hope she is ok. Has the thread been withdrawn/deleted from here?

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53rdAndBird · 05/01/2017 21:59

I think the thread got deleted.

GentlyOnTheShort · 05/01/2017 22:47

*herewecomewassailing

this, I think, is the big, underlying issue: the veneer; the disingenuous, chummy, 'all mums / sensible people in it together' tone cultivated by the moderators; the tagline... It all, deliberately, sets out to preserve a sense of community and democracy which is utterly false, but encourages revelations and brings in the clicks and the revenue*

^Brilliant post, beautifully written, like a butter through knife Smile.

But I think its always been that way really. Never bought into the cosiness myself. Think MNHQ has always been kick-ass ruthless. Alot of the posters used to be vile - especially in AIBU - in the good old days. MN moderators stood by, and one time (if memory serves me correctly) joined in! Occasionally have posted but usually regret it. Always keep details unrecognisable and anonymous.

However there were and are some great posts and posters out there, and I do agree its sad that so many have name-changed you don't know who they are anymore.

There are also the horrible sexual threads about rape or abuse - there was one the other day which was clearly trolling - but MNHQ are very slow to pick up on them. I suspect they may even keep them for the "outrage" clickbait factor (sick?). So am finding the whole board increasingly offensive and the constant swearing grates too. The best parts are Education and SN, and occasional Telly Addicts for some light-heartedness.

daisychain01 · 07/01/2017 03:55

_Chat is friendly and I rarely find myself picking through reams of troll-y made up outrageous scenarios in the same way as on AIBU. Anything in AIBU I find difficult to believe in, I don't invest more than 1 min of my life on.

Relationships board is there for those in genuine need of support. It would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water getting rid of it completely.

Employment Issue is fab. We stick to the facts and have some great discussions over there. No sensationalism needed, just facts and support.

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