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Blown up life - cheers OW

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user1472557500 · 16/11/2016 23:05

I've been trying to deal with this but am struggling, I just really need some help and support. I feel like I am at the bottom of a deep dark hole.

I've been together with my DP for 10 years, we've had a normal happy relationship with some difficult (but I would class as very normal times) dealing with the stresses of young children and financial pressures. We've been through lots together and share a lot of interests. I thought we were happy, in a stable relationship building our family life together.

This summer my DP started to act strange - he had hidden debt from me. This triggered huge arguments as I was at home looking after the kids (nearly 2 and 4) and it meant me going back to work before planned. I had wanted to stay home with the kids until the youngest was 3 and I had given up my well paid job, moved out of the city and we'd taken on a cheaper mortgage in a countryside location to do so.

The arguments this debt triggered seemed incredibly intense and he had little remorse this time (he's hidden debt before, in fact he has been awful with money the whole time we've been together). He then told me he didn't love me and I had changed since having the kids, I had put too much of my focus on them and had neglected our relationship by becoming isolated and not developing myself. This was a massive shock to me as I thought he loved me. I asked him if there was someone else and he denied it.
At this point I told him I would do whatever it took to get him to be happy with me again - I said I'd get back to work, earn my big salary again, put kids in childcare, focus on him and get our relationship strong again. I want my kids to have an intact family and I thought we could be happy so this is why I wanted to make these changes to myself. Putting my kids in childcare was a big compromise for me.

For the next month I tried this plan, he met my efforts with cold angry disdain though, it was emotional torture. He was distant and avoided all physical contact with me. One night he broke down saying he couldn't go on, there was another woman, a work colleague - they'd fallen in love and with that he left.

A week later he returned. During the week he was gone I was on the brink of a nervous breakdown, on tranquilizers and unable to eat or sleep. He told me on his return that him and the OW couldn't bear to break two families as she is also married with a small child. He said it was over with her so I took him back and I vowed to make it work for me, him and the kids.

The following month I did everything possible to make it work- we got our sex life back and I didn't argue, complain or mention his affair. I was supportive and forgiving, fun, sexy and optimistic. He however did not seem happy, he drank lots, was moody and abusive, the sex bordered on abusive too. He complained about the kids, family life, the house - basically everything. He was dark and scary. Finally after 6 weeks of this emotional torture he said he couldn't pretend he loved me anymore and that he wanted her. He left again, this time for good.

I was plunged back into despair, I couldn't eat or sleep. I was back on the tranquilizers and desperate for help. He was cold and angry to me. I was (and am) looking after the kids full time and keeping everything from them so as not to hurt them. In an attempt to keep sane and get some support I went with the kids to my Mums while he stayed in the house.

So this takes us to now - we are in constant contact because of the kids and I allow him as much contact as he wants. I am cordial, nice and collaborative with him. I am trying my best to keep the kids happy. I am very nice to him, when he is around, I encourage the kids relationship with him. I have not bad talked him or told the truth about why Daddy is leaving Mummy.

Because of the location of our house I cannot live there - it's too far from where I would be working and too remote for a single Mum. So I am forced out of my home too. I loved my home. Currently I live with my little kids in my elderly Mothers house, have been here for 2 months living out of a suitcase.

I don't have a job yet as my field is specialist and dependent on location and I'm incredibly busy just caring for a 2 and 4 year old alone.
So now I have no income, he takes the benefits I receive to pay for the house. The debts are out of control too so our house must be sold.

I live on no money, just the money from my Mothers pension for food. He gives us nothing as all his salary is going to debt.

I have found the pictures of him and her on our shared computer, I've seen her crotch picture next to the pictures of our kids. I've seen the screenshots of things he wants to buy for their home.

He has started to say that our relationship was dead and seems to be moving way past his guilt or remorse. He blames me. I have started to blame myself as well now for not having sex with him enough when the kids came along. It's like he has reimagined the split to be mutual although I have told him many times it's not and asked him to come back to me. I think because I am so nice to him and facilitate his relationship to the kids that in some way I am happy with this and that it's just a mutual split by two grown-ups.

I am consumed by hurt and pain but I hide it, I want her (OW) to see the absolute trauma they are putting me and the kids through.

Can anyone help me. Can you give me some perspective or hope or anything really.
I have my kids but everything else I had in my life is gone. I am obsessed with how much better than me she must be for a devoted father like my exDP to hurt his kids and essentially evict them from their happy family home. She must be amazing. I in comparison seem worthless.

It's really hard to cope with. I think the term is clusterfuck

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krustykittens · 17/11/2016 00:01

I echo what every one else said. Your DP is to blame for all this, not the other woman. She didn't put a collar around his neck and lead him away, he blew everything up himself. He's a wanker and you WILL be better off without him. I would see a solicitor and try and get a formal separation so if he continues to rack up debts buying OW anything she wants, YOU won't be partially responsible for them. As others have said, exercise is a fantastic anti-depressant and you will soon be back on the job market. It's time to stop crying over him and do everything you can to move on and get out of the financial mess he has put you all in. And yes, he's abusive too! Trust me, this guy was never a prince.

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ladylambkin · 17/11/2016 00:02

I've been where you are 6 years ago. You will get through this trust me on that Flowers

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YazooAddict · 17/11/2016 00:08

You sound absolutely lovely. The love you have for your children really shines through what must have been a very difficult post to write.
Be kind to yourself; I've no doubt that in a few years you won't recognise this situation and your DH will still be struggling to manage himself and money while you'll have turned your life around.
The early days are really tough, and it's hard to imagine it'll get better. It will though, especially for someone who has evidently got their head screwed on.
I usually find some of the mumsnet directives difficult to swallow; they're tough and unrelenting. However, they're 100 percent right in this case. He's planning purchases and you're living on nothing. You need to get a legal agreement to separate your finances, and quickly. Don't wait, don't try to be overly considerate, just do it for your family.

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user1472557500 · 17/11/2016 00:10

for all your replies thank you! I really really appreciate it. It's actually the energy and perspective I need.

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ohfourfoxache · 17/11/2016 00:11

Please get tough quick. He wants to see ds? On your terms. He wants your benefits? Tough. His shit to sort out.

Please get to a solicitor asap. You need specialist advice pronto - all your money is going towards paying off his debt. He is taking money away from not only you, but your ds.

Don't wait until the house is sold to separate the finances. Take the steps you need to now.

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Justaboy · 17/11/2016 00:12

user1472557500 Please do not beat yourself up over this and in no way feel sorry for him or help to support him.

He has caused you this grief, the OW could have been anyone and she must be a fine piece of work to want to be with him anyway.

Hold your poor old head high and do one thing and that's get some LEGAL advice, its neigh on a war situation and you deserve to win it! I can't say for certain but if the debts are his then that's his look out but you MUST get legal advice as without that whatever you do get may be less than what your entitled to. The courts look at the well being of the children involved and who looks after them that's their main concern.

And that's were this might go but see a Solicitor before you do anything else

One day I hope you meet a decent man who really loves you and makes you happy:)

Bless you!.

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GabsAlot · 17/11/2016 00:16

if he was so devoted he wouldnt have left

stop being nice to him and giving him money-go to cab or a solicitor an get some advice u dont owe him anything

sex isnt the answer to everything-saying if u did this or that wont help you

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Ginkypig · 17/11/2016 00:20

I never use this word but he is one of the vilest cunts Iv ever read about on here

You need to hear that! You need to believe that!

He is counting on your weakness to walk all over you. He has treated you and your children like shit on his shoe.

The man your talking about is not the man who is in your head or the man you fell in love with and built a family with. Forget about that man.

Look at the man who is right in front of you believe him and react accordingly.

Think (before you loved him) if you met this man, you would think yuck what a disgusting human being. He's the sort you wouldn't even want to associate with.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 17/11/2016 00:36

Don't you bloody dare blame yourself . He's the arse hole twatting cheat, not you
Oh and if she thinks her life is sewn up and sorted. She's in for a bloody shock because if he can cheat on the mother of his children. He'll cheat on her. Flowers

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springydaffs · 17/11/2016 00:38

I usually think it's a bad move to be so far down the line in a relationship without the legal (ie financial) protection of marriage. But in this case I'm cheering.

Ain't she got the prize Hmm. A feckless, selfish baby who whines you don't put out when you're up to your neck with kids. Who pisses hard -earned money up the wall. All the best, OW.

Wtf are you doing pprancing around him trying to lure him back. What for?? He's a loser! You're letting him live in your home, giving him the kids benefits, so he's all cozy while you and the kids are living out of a suitcase at your elderly mums. Somethings seriously out of balance there!

Yy you want the best price for the house but how long does it take to sell a house? Meanwhile he's draining the pot as we speak. That house could be sold by now.

Girl, I hope it isn't too long before you wake up to what a dud he is and get on with your lovely life, earning some fabulous money (which you won't have to share with him! Result!).

Shake the dust from your feet. The best is yet to come (anything would be better than a life with him) xx

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 17/11/2016 00:48

Be decent about him to the dc.
Don't obstruct contact.
Unleash hell on him financially.
He's left your family because he can't cope with being a parent. For a woman who has a child Confused
Get yourself together because unless she's equally shite at parenting he's going to find his affair involved a woman who does parentingctoo. At which point he might wimp out and be back at your door. Until the next time.

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SleightOfMind · 17/11/2016 01:05

Loving someone and behaving decently is not weakness and you haven't been weak.
Treating the father of your children decently and protecting your DCs from the fallout of his behaviour is what normal people do.
You've given him every chance to not fuck everyone's lives up and he's chosen to ignore them all.
Please wash your hands, head and heart of him. His relationship with the children is no longer your responsibility.
See a solicitor tomorrow. Your children and your mother should not be paying to support his dismal life choices. He is genuinely awful and you sound lovely (but very ground down Sad).
I think he did you a big favour by leaving!

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LittlePaintBox · 17/11/2016 01:19

Please see a solicitor, as others have said. I know it's really difficult emotionally, but in my experience once a bloke has said he's going, especially one with money problems, he will take as much as he possibly can out of the marriage and you owe it to your children to be as financially secure as possible.

You feel emotionally shattered at the moment, which makes it really hard to deal with practical administrative things like money, but a solicitor can help you through the steps you need to take to become financially secure away from his chaotic finances.

Over time you will start to heal, he has hurt you terribly but you sound strong and determined to make sure your children are OK.

The OW is not better than you in any way at all. If she does end up with him, she will have just the same thing to go through in the future as you are going through now.

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TheBouquets · 17/11/2016 01:21

User - There is other ways to look at this which I think is really bad.
I am not including the historic abuses in this.
He is taking the benefits from you which are supposed to be for his children presumably Child Benefit and Child Tax Credit. It is very wrong for anyone to take the bite out a child's mouth.
He is taking this money and you are not actively preventing him while he and you are expecting your pensioner DM to keep you and the DCs.
So this is abuse of the children by withholding their benefits and also abuse of the pensioner DM because pensions are not meant to keep daughter and DGC.
I don't even know enough swear words to cover how angry this makes me and I hope you see fit to change it all. Either open a Bank Account at DM's address and have CB and CTC paid into that or have it paid direct into DM's bank account. Your DM will also have to pay extra Council Tax for having another adult in her house.

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SandyY2K · 17/11/2016 07:19

I think you need to get child support as he's got to pay that before his debt.

Seek legal advice
Stop being so nice to him.
Sort out formal scheduled visitation

The problem is you did the pick me dance. He was cruel because he'd strayed and had to convince himself that you were horrible, to relieve his guilt.

The way he treated you was awful. Very abusive and he's taken advantage of your kind personality.

Your kids are to young to understand just now, but don't hide his affair or keep his secret from others.

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Myusernameismyusername · 17/11/2016 07:20

You poor thing.
It is abuse of the pension and the benefits and you must put an immediate stop to this. Call them and get this money paid into anktner account he cannot access. You sound like an amazing mother but he has done a number on you with money.
It will urge him to hurry up and sell it. get advice ASAP.

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SandyY2K · 17/11/2016 07:23

You need to find some anger with him and stop letting him walk all over you.

Have a read on this website dedicated to infidelity and you'll learn a lot.

//www.survivinginfidelity.com

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DoinItFine · 17/11/2016 07:26

Stop poncing off your pensioner mother.

That benefit money is for your children, not so some feckless liar can pay off his debts.

You really need to sort out your priorities.

You are not being "nice".

You are being irresponsible.

Put your children and their wellbeing first.

That means making sure their household is financially secure.

Not giv8bg their Dad all your money so he can buy presents for his girlfriend.

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Waltermittythesequel · 17/11/2016 07:35

You're being spineless, not nice.

Stop allowing him to treat you, your pensioner mother, and your dc this way.

He's a prick.

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Overthinker2016 · 17/11/2016 07:50

Just to clarify - is the mortgage on the house in your name? If so it might not be a simple as stopping paying towards it if you don't want it to be repossessed.

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AnyFucker · 17/11/2016 07:59

As I read your op I physically shrivelled

Please stop hero worshipping this cunt. The depths you have travelled to for this cruel faithless prick will mortify you when you free yourself from the Pick Me dance

Please find your backbone and start giving your children at least one functioning parent with their best interests at heart

He is a write off and you have to start acting accordingly. See a solicitor and get their future secured.

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CocktailQueen · 17/11/2016 08:06

MOve back into the family house. you and the dc need it, not him.

get legal advice. Stop giving him the dc's benefits -that money is your children, not your ex.

Draw up a formal list of visiting/contact times and stick to it. Then you know where you are.

Sell the house, apply for CM from him, move on. Try not to give him any head space. With his track record with money, he'll piss away the whole lot.

The man you married is gone - in his place is a cheating, lying useless twat. You're worth way more than that, so move on.

Flowers

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DoinItFine · 17/11/2016 08:25

The man you didn't marry was a useless lying twat all along.

Now you and your children are free of his financially incontinent ways.

Once you stop giving him your children's money.

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ohtheholidays · 17/11/2016 08:45

You need to change your mindset and tell yourself and everyone else the truth about the Wanker!

He is not a good man and has never been a good man,not for you or your DC!Even before his betrayal you said he was in debt and causing debts,those debts were effecting you and your DC,he is not a good person!

Get angry because you have every bloody right to be and with both of them but especially him!You start getting angry about what he's done to you all and you will start to be able to distance yourself from him and you'll stop letting him get away with everything and you'll start putting your DC and yourself first!

Do not give him benefits that are meant for you and your DC if he gets found out he could get in real trouble for that for a start and start claiming maintanance from him,he owes you and your DC that and you know he does!

The financial aspect must be a worry for your Mum as well,stop rewarding him for being a Dick!

Get legal help and tell them what you told us about what he did to you he deserves to be held responsible for what he's done,he made a choice now he needs to live with those choices and the repercussions of the choices that he made.

It may not feel like it now but you will get through this,the sooner you start being kinder to yourself the better,you did nothing to cause this and you sound really lovely and he was very lucky to have you in his life for as long as he did.Now he sounds like he has the kind of person he deserves,a not very nice one. Flowers

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Bluntness100 · 17/11/2016 08:55

Ah, she already knows the carnage, she has her own kid, they split up once over it, I imagine financially they are struggling. But honestly you don't want him back because it's carnage, that's no reason to have a marriage,

It will get easier, you will get yourself sorted, financially and domestically, so just hang in there.

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