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Is it the lack of sex? Is it me? Was I in the right or he?

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thewomanwiththepearlearring · 07/10/2016 00:07

This is going to be a long one, so here it goes.

I was with DS dad for a very long time. We did live together, but I couldn't stand his controlling ways, constant nagging for sex, unpredictable temper and I didn't want DS to be brought up in that sort of environment, so I left and I now live with my parents.

Here's the issue, when I was with DS dad, the lack of sex was an issue. He has a very high sex drive; I don't have a high sex drive at all. But when I was living with DS dad, I would give him sex constantly just so that he can stop whining as he will get very angry and accuse me of all sorts. Also, DS dad was very unhelpful around the house, he hardly took me out anywhere, we hardly did things as a family, but he was very good with DS. But I started to feel used, horrible feeling, and after a while, on top of other things that I mentioned above, it was too much and I left.

When I went to live at my parents house, things started to change (we were still together at this point-- but I went to live at my parents house for that break ifyswim). DS dad had hardly been to take out DS anywhere, doesn't give me money to support his DS (well he has no job but gets benefits), he doesn't like going out to social places, so he would hardly take me out anywhere, but he would constantly tell me to go to his flat to have sex. When we did go out, it was like DS dad expected sex in return. Almost like a reward when he took me out. It got to a point that I was worried to invite DS dad to parents evenings, events, days out etc incase he did come and expected sex in return. If I refused, DS dad would go into a fit in public.

I hated it, I felt used. I didn't feel like we were in a relationship. He wasn't providing my emotional needs, as well as DS! I felt like he hardly did anything for his DS despite the fact that our DS has special needs. So I was doing all his care. So I thought, why do I need to give this man sex, when he doesn't do anything really to contribute to the relationship...relationships are suppose to be equal, balancing out each others emotional and physical needs right?

I had enough, so all in all, I decided that until DS dad supports his son (emotionally, financially etc) and supports me (emotionally etc), I would refuse giving him sex and end the relationship with him. Which I did, it has been 8 months now.

Just today, DS dad called me and we had a discussion about the issues in our past relationship. DS dad wants to get back with me, but he quickly (sigh) started to ask me if I can come back to his to have sex. As I have filed for child maintenance, which is £7.00 a week as his on benefits. DS dad said he has "changed" that he has done everything that I have asked him to do..regarding supporting DS financially through child maintenance (he see's DS now and again) and that I expect him to give me all my wants, but I wouldn't give him anything in return (sex). I told DS dad, that despite what CM say, £7.00 a week is not enough, that I struggle daily to provide for DS and his needs (he has severe allergies as well as SEN) and that he should be ashamed of giving DS so little. He even gloatly told me that his actually working in a bar and gets cash in hand Angry.

He then began to say that he still loves me Hmm, and wants me back. I then said ok, but can we take things slow, like go on dates, go out to public places . He then replied that I know he hates going out socially, he has no money and that we can go to the park and go to his after (sigh-again). I told him no, that this is why I dumped you in the first place, that until he starts providing for DS, emotionally supporting me and DS, being more their for us as a family, then I will get back with you. He got miffed and hanged up.

Oh..he even told me that even though he and I aren't together, that if I find a new boyfriend, he will leave DS and I for good Confused.

I think I'm wasting my time Sad.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 07/10/2016 10:23

Definitely go to text or email only. You have no need to speak to him, as he will only use it as an opportunity to emotionally blackmail you into stuff you don't want to do.

I doubt that his lack of care is actually about your DS's SEN, although that has probably added to it - he's just a fucking selfish bastard who only cares about his own wants, and I would think that even if your DS didn't have SEN, this twat would be just the same.

ShebaShimmyShake · 07/10/2016 10:24

Is there really any part of you that truly, sincerely believes you are to blame and he is a good man doing right by you and your child?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 07/10/2016 10:25

It was spam, lovely, load of old bollocks and totally irrelevant.

herbwife · 07/10/2016 10:29

Good. It was someone trying to scam you, not worth worrying about.

Diamogs · 07/10/2016 10:33

Do not engage with your ex. Telling him to make regular arrangements to see his son and that is all that you need to do. Ignore his calls and send him texts ONLY about his DS.

OP sex is a wonderful experience between two people, it should be pleasurable for both of you. It should not be a duty / chore / done to stop someone whining.

thewomanwiththepearlearring · 07/10/2016 10:34

Thumbswitch your right. DS dad was a shit dad before we knew DS had SEN. A year ago, DS started calling his dad 'Dad', and I thought by DS dad hearing it, that it will make him wise up. He was happy, but he didn't change Sad.

DS dad always told me that I don't involve him in DS life, like parents evenings and so forth (I didn't cause he would most likely want something in return). When I did involve him to many aspects of things regarding DS, in hope that he will change and become more an involved dad and he did attend everyone thing (it's like I have to ask him... He doesn't really try to ask me or find out about it to myself). It was short lived, he would go back to his old ways.

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herbwife · 07/10/2016 10:35

You have done the right thing L-ingTB, you and your DS deserve better. Your ex only wants you back because he's not getting his own way elsewhere.

Batteriesallgone · 07/10/2016 10:35

His attractiveness is irrelevant because you don't want to have sex with him. Would you rather be with a selfish lazy attractive man or a loving generous less physically attractive man?

Get out of this now. He has raped you. Repeatedly. Do the Freedom program and learn to love yourself.

thewomanwiththepearlearring · 07/10/2016 10:35

I do think I am part of the blame, yes.

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gratesnakes · 07/10/2016 10:36

Good idea to move to text instead of voice. And make it clear that you are only going to discuss your son. The rest of your life is none of his business. Stay polite but brief and refuse to engage with anything nasty or anything not to do with DS. Congrats on doing a Masters. I hope your parents are supportive.

LittleOyster · 07/10/2016 10:36

So, in summary....

HIM: A vain, preening benefits fraudster who spends his days attempting to blackmail/demoralise a woman into having sex with him. Only interested in his son to the extent that he can be used as a bargaining chip to get sex. Completely unconcerned about the fact that his contemptible £7 a week does not provide adequately for his child.

YOU: A thoughtful and capable young woman who is single-handedly managing to raise a DS with SEN, complete a Masters degree and cope with the fall-out of leaving an abusive relationship.

Please, please don't go back to this loser. He will ruin your life. You are so young and have so much to look forward to. Flowers

camena · 07/10/2016 10:38

Oh OP, he sounds like such a monumental arsehole, I'm really angry on your behalf.

Do you think you can find some anger at him:

  • he uses you like a blow up doll for sex
  • he is a benefits cheat who is keeping all of his money for himself rather than spending it on his son who desperately needs it
  • he emotionally manipulates you and makes you feel bad when he doesn't get access to his blow up doll
  • he does nothing to make you feel good about yourself, in fact he puts you down and treats you like shit

This is NOT the person to spend your life with. Draw some boundaries that keep him at a distance, find yourself and your happiness, look forward to the rest of your life.

gratesnakes · 07/10/2016 10:38

You are not to blame. Take a look at the Freedom programme.

LittleOyster · 07/10/2016 10:40

Ps. I suspect that, with a loving partner, you will discover your sex drive is much higher than you'd thought.

Regardless of how Adonic he (thinks) he looks, your ex sounds sexually repulsive.

MaybeDoctor · 07/10/2016 10:44

Looking at things another way, if you cease your relationship you leave a space in your life for a lovely bloke to fill.

Someone who is gentle, considerate, wants the best for you...not to mention someone who actually has an honest job, rather than cheating the taxpayer!

iremembericod · 07/10/2016 10:49

You are early 20's.

If only I could somehow let you see that saddling yourself to a man like this now will ruin the rest of your life I would do it.

He is a horrific father, disgusting rapey partner and literally adds nothing to your life.

What are your plans after your masters? How does a lazy scumbag partner fit into these plans?

As for all your friends getting married - I literally 'sigh' when I see inexperienced young people blindly getting married - 50% will divorce, even more will stay together unhappy.

This can be a real opportunity for you to not let your life be fucked up and complicated. If you block him, you'll probably never hear from him and don't be upset, be happy you are free from him.

Think about you and ds, get your masters, get a great career - form the foundations for lifelong contentment and safety.

iremembericod · 07/10/2016 10:52

Yes, i second the comment re your sex drive.

You would be odd IF you wanted to have sex with such a scumbag.

If you met a decent guy I have no doubt you'd be at it like rabbits absolutely fine

itsbetterthanabox · 07/10/2016 11:00

End it.
Don't speak to him unless it's arranging for him to see DS. Refuse to engage on other topics.
Report him and the bar he works at for not paying tax.
Go through the CSA for maintenance. Not directly through him. You may not get much but you'll get it and you won't have to deal with him directly.
Never have sex with anyone again unless you actually want to.

Mummyme1987 · 07/10/2016 11:14

If you know where he is working, write the boss a letter saying you will report the business for hiring under the table. You could add he's not paying you the right money for your child and you intend to get the tax people and the cms to investigate it.

thewomanwiththepearlearring · 07/10/2016 11:16

Thanks, all.

remembered he don't see him fitting into my plans, all I see him doing is dragging myself down with his bullshit. I hope to become a physiotherapist once I have completed my masters. But just seeing people around my age, have more kids, living together, makes me want to sob.

I don't want to spend The rest of my life with. I do no want to ruin my life.

Yes its I went through CSM to get child maintenance from him.

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thewomanwiththepearlearring · 07/10/2016 11:17

mummyme I don't know where his working. He wouldn't tell me either. What the next best thing I should do?

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PenguindreamsofDraco · 07/10/2016 11:19

I suspect your sex drive would be fine if you could set the pace, or at least have your views factored in.

Not wanting to have sex constantly does not mean your sex drive is low.

Hoist up your big girl pants (and keep them up Wink Grin ) and start making a real life for yourself and your child. The life you think you want with him does not exist.

eatsleephockeyrepeat · 07/10/2016 11:34

Oh thewoman, you don't want to get back with him, I promise. You want him to be someone different, someone you could be with, because then everything would be easier. You wouldn't have to leave the arsehole OR live with the arsehole, and if that doesn't happen you have to accept one of those two difficult outcomes. But let me tell you, he will not wake up tomorrow a different person, no matter how much you wish it. I'm sorry :(

I feel like you already know you deserve better, you want better, you want more for your son, as you've already taken a stand against this and said it isn't enough. It's time to face up to reality; you know what you need, you know how to get it, you just have to accept there is no easy route - the only way to your destination is through fully separating yourself from this man. Once you've resigned yourself to that you'll find it so much easier, I assure you; you'll begin to be able to focus on the future and what possibilities there are for you. It's not too late, but it only gets later every day you delay. You CAN wake up and be with a man who gives you what you need, but it will not ever be this man.

Unicorn34 · 07/10/2016 11:38

I was told once that to have a good sex life with your partner, you need to have "foreplay" 24/7 - this being kindness, love, support, laughter, making you feel wanted (in a positive way), then you would feel like having sex .... you are not getting any of this and, so it sounds, never will. Please do not go back to him, you will be more miserable than you were before as he will think you NEED him as well as him being so gorgeous! Your son is so much better off with one really good, loving and supportive parent - YOU Flowers

thewomanwiththepearlearring · 07/10/2016 11:40

Thank you so much eat your post summed out how I feel or how I wish things to be. But no, I don't think he will change, no matter what I say or do, it wouldn't make him see the "light".

It makes perfect sense.

Thank you all, I just need that extra ounce to keep moving forward. His phone call to me was an emotional set back. I thank God that I stuck to my guns and did not sleep with him.

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