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How do I tell my immediate family I am pregnant? (Very long, sorry!!!)

81 replies

howdoItellmyfamily · 04/02/2007 09:48

I need help dealing with my immediate family.

They are all members (as was I) of a church that they would describe as evangelical / fundamentalist Christian but that most ex-members (even those who are still Christians) describe as a cult.

To give you a flavour: in addition to belief in the literal truth of most the bible (e.g. Adam & Eve is true instead of evolution, Revelation is a description of the end of the world, which will happen in our life time) they also believe; no popular music, it?s of the Devil, you?re not allowed friends that aren?t in either theirs or a similar church, unless you?re trying to convert them, some weird and wonderful beliefs about not being allowed certain toys (frogs, pigs) because they become possessed easily, that you should live your life by the prophesies and dreams of the church elders, and also they believed in ?spare the rod, spoil the child?, and boy did I get some leather belt lashings from my Mum and Dad. Dad was the ?liberal? one of the two of them (by liberal I mean he would allow us to watch certain programmes on TV that Mum didn?t approve of, or occasionally he would fight our corner with Mum, that sort of thing; my Mum was awful and did some terrible things to us).

I was kicked out at age twenty two for one of the worst crimes that I could have committed in their eyes. I had a boyfriend, not only was he not one of them he was actually an atheist, and I was sleeping with him! (I?d had boyfriends before but managed to keep them hidden, but they managed to cotton on to this one).

At that point my life got much better; his parents let me move in with them, we got our own place and lived our lives together and eventually? he became my dh.

I tried, I really did try, to maintain contact with them. It was very difficult; my mother in particular went out of her way to tell me how I was hell-bound, and kept saying things like ?you?ll come back to the church, you?ll leave this man,? and ?are you sure this is forever? Because Jesus isn?t sure, he?s told me in a dream?, when dh had a car crash, but was fine in the end, ?it was a warning from God?, but I persevered.

Until I told them I was marrying him. My mother and sister and I had a huge falling out; they didn?t want to come to the wedding (my sister had previously said she?d be a bridesmaid but obviously hadn?t meant it) and after much ?soul searching? I made the decision not to contact them again. My Dad wasn?t as bad, and as I say, I have managed to have conversations with him by email from time to time, we avoid talking about religion, and he has been brilliant at sticking to this (and nor do I talk about my lack of belief with him of course!) but I?d hardly call it a strong relationship, it?s more like the sort of things you?d say to a distant uncle, iyswim.

Sorry for the life story, here is the dilemma.

I am pg, and my little boy is due at the end of March. I do not want my mother back in my life. But I would like to tell my father that he has a grandson. So far I?ve not told him, because he would tell my mother and I did not want that stress in my pgcy. But now I don?t know what I?m going to do. I was going to wait until after the birth and see how I felt then. (I don?t want her near me while I?m pg, the stress would be too much.)

But if I leave it until then, what?s my Dad going to say? He?s going to be incredibly hurt that in all the emails I?ve sent him I?ve not once mentioned my pregnancy. But if I tell him, he?ll tell her, and there is no knowing what she might do. I doubt she?d want to just leave it; the thought of her grandson being brought up by a pair of non-believers would be anathema to her. And part of me would quite like to see my younger sister again.

Also I have heard there is something called Grandparents? Rights, and that if she knew I had a baby she would be legally entitled to have access to him anyway.

My question is, when should I tell them? And how?

I?m really sorry this is such a long post. Please, please, do not be judgemental of me for not loving my mother and not wanting to see her!

(Also, I really do not want people coming on here and turning this into some kind of discussion about religion. I need help and advice and not for this to turn into a comment on belief.)

OP posts:
hazygirl · 21/07/2007 17:21

congratulations,and good luckxx

dollydumps · 21/07/2007 17:28

Well done for taking the bull by the horns.

All this anguish can't be good for you what with you having a wee tiny tot to care for, but hopefully you'll find a bit of relief now that you have done the deed so to speak.

Us folks with our 'normal' (if slightly disfunctional) families don't realise how good we've got it. Best of luck for the future, and whatever happens, don't let this overshadow the first fantastic months with your precious lo.

Justaboutmanaging · 21/07/2007 20:21

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sazzybee · 21/07/2007 20:47

Oh sweetie - good luck with this. I think you're very brave xx

FLIER · 21/07/2007 20:58

You should do whatever causes you less stress or worry. If it is going to prey on your mind during the rest of your pregnancy then you should seriously think about telling them. If you feel you can put it off until babe is born, then do it then.
I would do it now so you don't have the worry, but I don't know your family.......

I always think on the baby inside you picking up on your feelings, think about that.

hth

FLIER · 21/07/2007 21:00

oops sorry didn't realise this was an old thread. Congrats on the birth of your baby, and hope all goes well for you.

Stroo · 21/07/2007 21:28

Look to your future not your past.

You three are your family now.

Nothing else matters - you have become stronger for having a bub!!!

Good Luck.

muppetgirl · 21/07/2007 21:51

Congratulations!
You sound a very strong person and that is what will get you throught the next few days/weeks whilst waiting.

I have no contact with my mother (alcoholic, living in a different country) through my own choice. There comes a point when you realise that having contact with some realtives is actually very damaging. I was never going to change her into a non-alcoholic and I really couldn't take anymore of the drunken phonecalls and emotional blackmail.

She wasn't invited to my wedding (or my brothers) and doesn't know about my ds (or my brothers ds/dd) and that I am pregnant again. This was not a decision taken lightly but I felt I didn't want her having contact with my children enabling her to damage them as she had me.

I still think -is this the right thing to do- but I look at my happy, well adjusted 3 yr old, who has asked about mummy's mummy, and know that yes, it was.

You don't have to put up with others' views and behaviours if you feel at all threatened and uneasy to leave your very precious child with them. Even if they are your parents, in this case your mother.

Good luck in all you do

divastrop · 22/07/2007 22:22

mossy-hope you hear from him soon,and everything goes ok xxx

take care.

Mossy · 23/07/2007 09:44

Well thank you everyone for your support. I imagine he will get the letter today or tomorrow.

I have to be honest I am dreading the response, but I have done it now and there is no going back.

It's weird, I do feel sorry for him in a way; I keep imagining him reading my letter (which was only very short and to the point) and thinking, "I'm a Grandad". I think there is part of me, wishful thinking, perhaps, that thinks, maybe he will think, "I wish we hadn't been such idiots to Mossy else we would have been able to share in this properly", but whether he will think that or not I don't know.

And then there is the specter (sp?) of my Mother hovering in the background... but the less thought about that, the better!

Troutpout · 23/07/2007 09:53

oh i remember this thread...
Good luck Mossy...hope you have a good outcome

ally90 · 23/07/2007 16:54

Hi Mossy,

Really feel for you. I broke contact with my mother when I was 8mth pg. I was frightened too, of her and my father. Hated writing the letter, did another one when my dd was 3mth saying I wanted no contact with her again...I got a response from her, a bunch of roses and a 9 page letter. 9 pages of 'me me me'. How I exaggerated, her childhood was far worse and my fathers and how fantastic grandparents were. Then after my father continuing to come round (he asked first) and bringing items from my mother despite me asking specifically that he did not, I sent a text to him asking that I wanted no futher contact with him for the time being, I would contact him when I was ready. That one was a year ago. Still have not contacted him as I still don't feel ready. I have councelling and my dh stands by me. I really relate to what you said about 'cowardice'. It really feels like that doesn't it...but its not, you were pg and now you have a new baby, I felt vunrable until I stopped nursing my dd. Its protection of your dc and of yourself. What I feared most was what they could say to hurt me. And I felt tremendous guilt for cutting them out. Of course now, over a year later, I'm beginning to be happy again, tho now I'm thinking of having another dc and thinking how do I break that to them this time with no contact at all? It will definately be after the birth this next time...until I feel safe to tell them.

If you felt loved and safe with your dad AND your mum you would have no issues, it is your mother and your father that has caused this, NOT YOU.

Sorry if I rambled but I hope some of my story helps you. Really hope its all okay. I'm thinking of you...

Mossy · 25/07/2007 08:43

Well just logged in to my email and there's one from my Dad. (I didn't give him my postal address - didn't want any unannounced visits!) I haven't opened it yet. I don't dare, I feel really nervous!

How ridiculous is this? I'm going to need a coffee before I open it!!

Troutpout · 25/07/2007 08:50

oo..hope the email (and you ) are alright Mossy
?

lemonaid · 25/07/2007 08:54

Congratulations on DS, and best of luck with the email...

Mossy · 25/07/2007 10:17

Opened it:

Hi

Not shocked really...I have been thinking this was a probable scenario! After all, there are such things as biological clocks...but congratulations to you both.

Of course the only sadness in all this is that in current circumstances we are unlikely to see him. But maybe somehow even that hurdle can be overcome some time. At least email me a photo!! And maybe one of you too - the only one I have is of your graduation.

Few other things in it but that was the gist. So at least he isn't pushing for him and my mother to meet up... will email him a photo and see how we go.

Piffle · 25/07/2007 10:34

tiny steps mossy
But at least you know now that they know and you can breathe out again.

I never knew this about you Mossy
You got some guts lass. To have your first baby without a mum must be tough. You have really done such a good job and coped so well.

xx

ally90 · 25/07/2007 11:01

Phew! Took me a day before I read my mothers letter! Well done you! Nice there is no pushiness there. Keep us informed how it goes.

xx

Troutpout · 25/07/2007 11:18

Oh i am glad it wasn't too bad...went away from the pc and then thought about you with your email..
Tiny steps yes
teeny tiny ones

Fireflyfairy2 · 25/07/2007 11:25

Oh I remember reading this before & have often thought about you.

Congrats on Bertie's birth

I hope you can come to some agreement with your dad on your terms mossy I agree that he's not being pushy & maybe, through time, your ds & your dad will have the pleasure to meet xo

Twinkie1 · 25/07/2007 11:28

How wonderful - have not spoken to my father for years and I know not seeing DS tears him apart - part of me feels he doesn't deserve to share such a wonderful gift and part of me would love him to knock on the door and want to be part of hhis life!!

divastrop · 25/07/2007 12:59

sounds like your dad put alot of thought into his response.how are you feeling about it?what are you hoping the outcome will be?

ThestralFeet · 25/07/2007 13:06

Sounds like a great response from him under the circs.

Are you going to email pics?

You are amazingly strong and I admire you

Mossy · 25/07/2007 13:40

I have emailed a few pictures over to him, yes. I don't know what I'm hoping the outcome will be, to be honest. In a way I have part of the outcome I wanted originally; I can talk about ds to him and not have to cover it up any more.

As Piffle says I can breathe out again.

Callieco · 25/07/2007 17:02

mossy, I'm so pleased you've had a good outcome from this. It must be really hard for you and you've been very brave and mature about it. Here's hoping things continue to go the way you want. Hugsx