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DH has to think about going away for a weekend with me

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LippyLiz · 17/07/2016 16:34

DH has had a brief affair, started as emotional in Feb, I found out in Apr, he went to stay at a friends for space and said he wouldn't be in touch with OW. He kept visiting me and kids midweek and for full weekends. Found out in June affair had progressed, we separated on the Fri and on the Tues found out he'd gone away for a weekend with her, blazing argument over the phone, very sorry etc. He came back on the Weds full of remorse and guilt and we've been working on things very slowly for the last 3 weeks. He's still at his friends but he's spending more time up here. We don't argue, never have, I feel dissatisfied with his attempts to sort things out, perhaps it's because he has his doubts, as do I, but mine are stronger doubts.

Because I've been trying to get us back together for over 3 months not knowing affair was progressing, I'm now getting past the point. He knows this but still wants to work on being a couple and family again. I know this won't happen overnight but he's only been working at things for 3 weeks so we're on different pages....

Anyway, today I asked him if he fancied me and him going away for a weekend, away from kids, house etc. He said 'can I think about it?'. I asked him why and he said 'because he wants to make sure we won't get on each other's nerves' type thing. He is an insensitive oaf but is this sensible of him or a sign he's not trying hard enough? Advice please

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SpinnakerInTheEther · 17/07/2016 20:41

Strangely enough, if there is any chance of getting your 'old' husband back you might have to put your foot down and make the break. He does not respect or pay any regard to you or your feelings any more. He is taking you for granted. He is not treating you with the kindness you would usually use towards any other human being. If he sees the error of his ways he might realise what he has lost. Whether you would want him back in that scenario, though, is another matter.

Caravanoflove · 17/07/2016 20:43

I'm so sorry to be blunt but I can't think of a nicer way to say this but the not wanting o finish inside you isn't his way of trying to prevent passing on a STI? Have you been checked?

BastardGoDarkly · 17/07/2016 20:47

Oh love.

Kick him the fuck out.

This isn't going to work, I'm sorry Flowers

LippyLiz · 17/07/2016 21:04

Spinmaker - I agree about the shock tactic, although it wouldn't be a tactic, it'd be real. I'm so close to ending it, I have tried, obviously not effectively as he talks me round which I wasn't expecting but I know that when I'm absolutely 100% there'll be no talking me around.

I have spoken to him tonight and he has assured me he's not in contact and passed me his phone. He said he hadn't realised the lack of kissing and that us going away will happen, apparently we're just reacquainting ourselves with each other and he's enjoying where we're at right now.

Isn't he meant to be making it enjoyable for me. Grrrr. I'm sure my decision is not long in coming.

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fastdaytears · 17/07/2016 21:06

He's caused you so much hurt and turned your life upside down, but he's enjoying where you are now Hmm

Scarydinosaurs · 17/07/2016 21:06

Your decision is made by him now. If you can't spend a weekend together, you don't have a marriage.

Helmetbymidnight · 17/07/2016 21:09

Are you enjoying where you are now? Sad

magoria · 17/07/2016 21:13

If he is happy to stick it inside you and waggle it around but not that final bit there is some reason he is not doing so.

Won't finish inside you sounds like one of those I didn't cheat because I didn't cum things.

I wonder if he did that he would see himself as cheating on OW with you.

purplefox · 17/07/2016 21:19

we're just reacquainting ourselves with each other and he's enjoying where we're at right now.

Massive stalling tactics, and a "don't rock the boat if you want me here, I'm enjoying things as they are so don't push it".

gammatron · 17/07/2016 21:23

He's not the man you thought he was when you married him! Get out now before he hurts you even more!

LippyLiz · 17/07/2016 21:26

I know, I know....

No I'm not particularly happy, I'm happier when he isn't here because when he is all my insecurities creep in. Our girls (13/11) are happier too, he's never played a massive part in their lives whereas I was a SAHM for 12 years and even now I do everything for them.

The girls know what has happened, they both had an idea before he came clean and I'm pleased they know, he knows they think bad of him (from their reactions, which were similar to mine) so he knows what's at stake if he's in contact with OW again.

I'm so grateful to hear your thoughts, it puts matters into perspective for me and I will get to that decision.

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JacketPoTayTo · 17/07/2016 21:35

He's doing an awful lot of thinking about what he wants and not much at all about what you want. He doesn't want you getting back together to be about sex, he doesn't know if he wants to go away with you, oh but now he does want to go away together but he wants to wait a while first. Do any of his sentences not start with "I want/I don't want"?

I'm sorry but if he was committed to fixing this then he would be the driving force. He would be over the moon that you would even consider going away for the weekend with him and he'd jump at the chance. He sounds more like he's being reluctantly dragged along with your efforts to fix the marriage.

You deserve so much better, as do your children. He's a knob.

Bogeyface · 17/07/2016 21:41

I am sorry to say this but one of the things about "not finishing" inside you could be because if he doesnt do that then it isnt really proper sex so it doesnt count. So then he can truthfully say to whoever that you are not having sex anymore.

And mine had a second secret phone, so handing over his phone means nothing.

Sorry.

Mikkalina · 17/07/2016 21:55

I can only guess that not him but the OW had ended the affair (you've mentioned she has DH) and now he is with you and that is probably why he is not as romantic as before.

HappyJanuary · 17/07/2016 21:57

I could've written all of this op. Find your dignity and end it on your terms. He will never be the husband you once had, because he has hurt you, and repeatedly lied to your face when he should be the person looking after you and watching your back. He is someone different now, and believe all of us that are telling you that he has already checked out. Every sign is there. He is not doing or saying any of the right things.

HappyJanuary · 17/07/2016 21:57

I could've written all of this op. Find your dignity and end it on your terms. He will never be the husband you once had, because he has hurt you, and repeatedly lied to your face when he should be the person looking after you and watching your back. He is someone different now, and believe all of us that are telling you that he has already checked out. Every sign is there. He is not doing or saying any of the right things.

AnyFucker · 17/07/2016 23:19

He won't ejaculate inside you so he can tell himself he isn't cheating on his girlfriend

Wake up, for God's sake

elQuintoConyo · 17/07/2016 23:24

PM me your address and i'll come round and kick him in the nuts.

Hillfarmer · 18/07/2016 00:48

Amazingly he is acting the innocent...

He said he hadn't realised the lack of kissing. Yeah, right. Bollocks.

and that us going away will happen, He doesn't get to dictate in this situation. He should be so sorry he'll be begging to do anything to make you happy. You say 'Jump', he says 'how high?' Instead he's acting like he is the god-like presence who shall decide on whether mini-breaks happen. Bollocks to him.

apparently we're just reacquainting ourselves with each other and he's enjoying where we're at right now. WTAF? Bollocks to him.

Find your anger OP and kick him the fuck out. He is taking the absolute piss.

Jemmima · 18/07/2016 02:00

He is Definately still seeing her and still in love/infatuated with her. When you have him back in love with you, you will know it. They all say he wouldn't do it but they usually are.,Sorry

saffronwblue · 18/07/2016 02:13

How hard for you - it does sound as if he has checked out, ow or no ow.

VimFuego101 · 18/07/2016 03:14

What bogeyface said - if he gives you his phone willingly, it's because he has another phone somewhere. This is a man who is checked out of your relationship, and it sounds like you're the OW at this point.

HappyJanuary · 18/07/2016 04:28

My ex gave me his phone willingly because he deleted the app he used to message her every time he walked through the front door and re-installed it every time he left for work.

SomeDaysIDontGiveAMonkeys · 18/07/2016 04:42

It seems YOU are making all the real effort. 'Can I think about it?' I'm afraid my response would be 'Feel free to take as long as you want while I shove all your stuff in bin bags.'

The cheek!!!

SomeDaysIDontGiveAMonkeys · 18/07/2016 04:43

It seems YOU are making all the real effort. 'Can I think about it?' I'm afraid my response would be 'Feel free to take as long as you want while I shove all your stuff in bin bags.'

The cheek!!!

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