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My DH is a wimp. Would you put up with any of this?

104 replies

wimpyhusband · 22/04/2016 17:04

DH and me are both in our early 50s. The thing that has prompted me to post this is an incident that occurred over the weekend. We were going out in the car and as we were about to drive off, an old man and his dog were walking on the pavement in front of our front gates. The man was walking several metres ahead of the dog. The dog stopped and took a huge shit literally right in front of the gate. The man didn't chastise the dog and just carried on walking. I shouted at the man and he came over and was very apologetic. DH was trying to play it down and telling me to just leave it. He was practically cowering in fear and failed to back me up. The owner didn't have anything to use to pick up the shit, so I made DH go in to get a plastic bag. The old man picked it up and walked away, then we drove off. H was making out that I was overreacting and that I shouldn't have done anything. Would you let a dog take a shit outside your home and let the owner walk off without saying anything? I don't think most people would.

The thing is this wasn't an isolated incident in which DH has acted like a wimp. There has been a few occasions in the past when I have had builders coming to do work in the house. Sometimes they have given me lip while DH has been there but he hasn't said anything. He leaves me to deal with problems, like if there is problem with the boiler for example. It's me who has to make all the phone calls and then greet the worker who comes out to sort it. DH usually hides upstairs until they've gone. When DS (22) was a child, whenever there were problems at school it was always me who would go up to the school to sort things out. There was a time when DS was in primary school and getting bullied. One time I went up to discuss it with the headteacher and the other kid's dad was there staring at me and making threats. DH didn't do anything about it. No doubt he would have been shitting himself if he was there. Also whenever I would invite DS' friends to the house when he was little, DH would act weird around the other kid's parents. He would just nod his head and say yes to everything while I did most of the talking. I could tell that the other parents thought something was weird about him. Also when we are in the car he gets angry at other drivers very easily. He will shout and make gestures at them but he checks to see if it's a man who's driving before he continues. He soon pipes down if it is a man. I think he had quite a rough childhood but he doesn't like to discuss it. I think his dad was an alcoholic and abusive and that might be a factor in why he acts scared around other blokes. He also complains a lot about his job. He's been in his current position for 12 years and moans because he never gets promoted. I find myself suspecting that it might be because he doesn't stand up for himself enough. I would like to ask what other people think.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 22/04/2016 20:28

I assume you knew he was a passive type before you married him ?

UmbongoUnchained · 22/04/2016 20:35

My husband is very passive and docile but when something (rarely) pops up on his radar he is like a lion. He would never allow anyone disrespect me, and if anyone so much as raised their voice towards me they'd be screwed.
I definitely couldn't live with a wimp.

tsunami · 22/04/2016 20:36

'I made DH go in to get a plastic bag' - 'made' him -- bit of a giveaway?

Slippersandacuppa · 22/04/2016 20:42

Why should the man have chastised his dog?

MistressMerryWeather · 22/04/2016 20:45

I think his dad was an alcoholic and abusive and that might be a factor in why he acts scared around other blokes

Um, that's a pretty massive point don't you think?

cruusshed · 22/04/2016 20:45

Difficult dynamic where each over compensates for each others weakness and it all goes toxic and extreme and you both hate it.

He is a wimp, avoids confrontation and off loads this all to you.
You (resentfully) have to pick up the slack so your confrontations are tinged with resentment, bitterness and exhaustion - so you get more angry than you need to - he winces at this and it fuels his self fulfilling prophecy that confrontation is always ugly.

the way forward is to teach him how to be assertive - not angry when having to confront - so therefore modelling calm effective interactions.

Good luck. I feel you pain. Have lived you life.

scotsgirl64 · 22/04/2016 20:48

Was your dh bullied as a child?.... I say this as my dh was and this is how he sometimes reacts to confrontation

witsender · 22/04/2016 20:50

You don't sound like you like him very much tbh.

Creatureofthenight · 22/04/2016 20:52

He obviously goes out of his way to avoid confrontation. As others have said, possibly due to childhood.
If your son is 22, you've clearly been together a while, why is this bothering you now? Is it the cumulative effect?

RudeElf · 22/04/2016 20:53

Why would he have chastised the dog for doing a poo? Confused

Uncoping · 22/04/2016 20:55

I feel sorry for your DH.
He may just have social issues, and doesn't enjoy confrontation.
You sound like you go ahead and be the assertive one without prompting your DH so it's no wonder he takes a back seat.

You sound a bit horrendous horrible to live with. Support your DH and stop calling him a fucking wimp.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/04/2016 20:55

He's not a wimp, he just doesn't sound like he has very good social skills (including confrontation) which is not uncommon for people who have had traumatic childhoods.

Has he ever had any help for that?

blueberrypie0112 · 22/04/2016 20:58

I am thinking maybe he feel bad for the old man. Is the old man healthy? Can he bend over easily without a problem?

wombthereitis · 22/04/2016 20:59

He sounds like he has a lot of (understandable) social anxiety that stems from a traumatic childhood. Maybe he needs a bit of empathy and encouragement to seek help with that?

YounicorneNumbers · 22/04/2016 21:00

You've been together for at least 22 years and I'm assuming you've always had this dynamic?

I'm a people-pleaser. I find confrontation very difficult indeed and although I will put myself through the agony of disagreeing and confronting, I find it very hard. I was married to a man who LOVED it, he was a very angry person really and would find the biggest slight in the tiniest thing. Parking was a big hot button for him and I found it excrutiating TBH.

I would have said something about the dog poo - but I'm not sure whether you went over the top shouting and being Agressive or not so it's difficult to judge on your OP. The car stuff is disturbing though - he feels ok bullying and being Agressive to a woman driver and not a man? Hmm

MistressMerryWeather · 22/04/2016 21:01

Do you call him names OP to his face? wherever you are

EarthboundMisfit · 22/04/2016 21:01

He sounds like he may have social anxiety issues. You sound a bit gung-ho.

YounicorneNumbers · 22/04/2016 21:01

Why is my iPad capitalising aggressive?! AND misspelling it to boot?

Maryz · 22/04/2016 21:12

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MistressDeeCee · 22/04/2016 21:13

A woman described as being "domineering" and "terrifying" simply for being assertive. How dare she confront a man about the dogshit at her gate (perhaps she should have passively let him go on his way, and cleaned it up herself), amongst other things

A man who is an aggressive driver, and re any incidents will gesticulate and make obvious his displeasure ONLY when its a female driver

Oh yes, sexist bullshit is rife.

Women really should know their place in the pecking order by nowHmm

FearOfFlying · 22/04/2016 21:13

Imagine the world if we were all angry and confrontational about everything....

FirstWeTakeManhattan · 22/04/2016 21:17

Bit of sexism going on about the OP here. If a bloke had reacted in that way, no one would have come up with 'domineering'

And if a woman chose to deal with situations like the OP's husband does, with a history of an abusive childhood, would she be written off as 'a wimp'? Very, very unlikely.

Sexist bullshit is rife on this thread

Yep.

MistressMerryWeather · 22/04/2016 21:19

Calling men wimps is horribly sexist.

Hassled · 22/04/2016 21:19

I don't think the OP sounds overbearing at all - where she's described herself as dealing with stuff, it's all just examples of bog-standard shite people have to deal with in a reasonably assertive manner.

But why are you posting now? You've obviously been married a long time - has your DH's lack of assertion never bothered you before? Has something changed?

pocketsaviour · 22/04/2016 21:20

Sexism hurts everyone, OP.