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Do I owe to give my DP sex?

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hollowintheriver · 24/03/2016 18:54

We all know that sex is one of the most important things in a relationship. But when does it make it ok for the woman/man to not want sex, even though the other party is sexually frustrated.

I hope I'm being clear. I've only been in one relationship (which I am in, though not a healthy one), so I don't have experience of what's it's like to be in a healthy relationship. But I've been reading many threads by men and women posting that they are not having much of an active sex life and of course they feel unattractive, not loved even etc and many posters agreed.

So I'm looking back and I'm thinking if I'm in the wrong for refusing to have sex with DP for that matter. He is very sexually frustrated with me, which I must admit has been one of our most problems for the last 8 years, but I guess most of the time I refused to have sex with him was because I always felt used.

So finally going into what I really want to post about. I have a 7 year old DS, and I was pregnant a couple of months ago but-l sadly decided to terminate, because of that reason, I don't want to have sex with DP for now- I can't explain, I guess I'm still grieving. But anyhow, I haven't had sex with DP for 5 months now and as you can imagine he is very sexually frustrated.

I was with DP today, and he was being flirty, I knew what he wanted so I told him that I was on my period and he quickly went away from me and then he got very angry (this was in public), he then resorted to belittling me and putting me down... Saying things like "I've been putting up with this for 9 years, I'm not doing it anymore, you always have an excuse not to have sex with me, but the other girls I speak to don't make up excuses...I can get a girl better than you, I've sacrificed everything for you and this is what I get, I'm not waiting for you, I'm not, even my friend said I'm a dickhead and he introduced me to an app where I can speak to girls, you told me to go to other girls, so I will go to them..*".
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Then my friend rang me, who I am a bit preoccupied with as she's currently going through domestic violence, when I got off the phone, DP then proceeded to say " your always on your phone to that friend, is she more than important than me, but wait hold on, your quick to pick up the phone to your friend, but you blocked me for four days, when you know I was suppose to see my SON on the weekend".

I blocked him, which I know was wrong, considering he was suppose to see DS on the weekend (we don't live together- yet... But you can kinda see why I'm a bit apprehensive to live with him). But the reason why I blocked him was because everytime he called me he always asked for sex, which was getting me down, a wall along or going to the museum would be nice and I'm up for that, but no, he always wants me to come to his.

Anyway, throughout this "conversation", I was very quiet as I know that if I talk back to him, it would escalate. So DP noticed this and said " Talk then! Why are you not talking! Your ready to chat shit on the phone, but you can't talk now? I said talk!!!".

I make a light conversation as I know he would get even more angry if I didn't say anything.

DP then carried on saying " you don't care that I'm about to get evicted, but you care about your friend more than me, your quick to answer her phone calls but you can't answer mine ". I wanted to say reply it was because that everytime he called me it would start off as...."how's DS...", followed by "can you come to mine?". But I quickly closed my mouth.

Passer bys were looking at us and I told DP to be quiet, then he came up to me- like he was going to fight me and said " Don't tell me what to do, I swear to God don't ".

Luckily, we were coming up to the train station as I'm studying at uni and had to make it to my class, so I told him that I had to go, then he went back to his place.

Honestly, I felt so suffocated during that entire "conversation" I breathed a sigh of relief when he left and considered that I should leave this son of asshole. But then when I read threads that people are getting. Sexually frustrated and that sex is important in a relationship, I then feel bad and start feeling sorry for DP.

What do you mumsnetters think?

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DarrenHardysDrongo · 26/03/2016 18:09

hollow, I've read several of dumbshmuk's other posts this afternoon. He seems to be only wanting to post on threads about lack of sex and I've found a couple of them to be verging on goady.
I don't think he can grasp the issues in your relationship and understandt that the 'root cause of your lack of desire' is your DP.

summerwinterton · 26/03/2016 18:24

Couples counselling would never ever be advised in an abusive relationship.

This abusive man has coerced you into giving him sex. Please apply for child maintenance, if he wants to see your DS then he does it away from you and your home. Please also go and get some counselling for yourself to work out why you are tolerating such utter shite from this excuse of a man. And Women's Aid will also be very useful to you. Why haven't you claimed child maintenance I wonder, has he bullied you into not doing that too?

dumbshmuk · 26/03/2016 22:26

Their not even a couple. Why you calling him DP? Is there a custody/ visitation agreement/order? How is he getting away with no child support? if no order exists get one he could wind up in jail for not paying so long. I have also posted on threads about emotional affairs that's how i found this site I wanted to help a woman not cheat on her husband. Sorry OP I have been reacting to others posts reacting to mine which is further pulling me away from what this thread is really about.

dumbshmuk · 26/03/2016 22:28

OMG I think i'm posting in the wrong thread.

dumbshmuk · 26/03/2016 22:29

no wonders things don't seem to fit

hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 20:44

Update

I know I shouldn't of. But I need someone to slap me.

DP phoned me today and apologised, but he said I was acting childish and wasn't going to wait for me (for sex).

He then asked me if I could come over to his and that if my sister could baby sit DS ( my sister would happily do it), but I told DP that I haven't taken DS out somewhere nice, so wanted to spend today to take him to his favourite museum. I told him that I can come tomorrow, but DP replied that he had plans. I then told that his welcome to join DS and I today to go to the museum, but he then said that he was tired Confused.

I then began to tell him the issue I have with him. That he has not been really there for DS and I, that he doesn't support DS financially.... Ok he hasn't got a job at the moment, but he has money to buy weed. I told him that I really want our relationship to progress. But he kept going on about the fact that I haven't had sex with him for 5 months and that our relationship is a joke and that he didn't care if I finished with him.

I don't know, am I just wasting my time? I think I want him because of the baby I terminated a few months ago, I'm so sad over it. I really want the baby back. My best friend is pregnant and my other friends are pregnant and I'm finding it hard to move on, also apart of me just feels like giving him the sex... As it has been 5 months and I hope that he will start being there for us more after this. I don't know. I need a slap don't I?

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hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 20:48

Oops was meant to put * hadn't taken out DS anywhere during the Easter holidays, but wanted to spend..

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hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 21:05

Anyone?

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houseeveryweekend · 30/03/2016 21:12

You need to leave him. The relationship isn't healthy for either of you. Yes sex is important in a relationship but that is not the only thing your relationship is missing it seems to be missing a lot of respect from his side. Yes people do expect some level of sex if they are a sexual relationship with someone obviously but these things go up and down especially around pregnancy childbirth and abortion. A partner should understand and respect this and try and work through it with you not just put constant pressure on you. Don't put up with his behaviour because you feel sorry for him, Absolutely nothing gives him the right to treat you in a disrespectful manner. You do not owe him sex but he does owe you respect. You seem to be trapped in a very unhealthy dynamic. Please don't move in with him. Try and avoid getting emotionally entangled in arguments with him. If you no longer want to be in a relationship you need to just tell him that and then emotionally disconnect as much as you can. It will be slightly more difficult because you have a child together and he sounds like the type of person who will try and draw you in using guilt. Don't put the topic up for discussion just say you no longer want to be with him and if he tries to push the matter do not respond. He will try and push your buttons and manipulate you and the best reaction to that is no reaction. Just don't fall for it. You deserve to find true happiness and you will find it if you can let go of this. Dont worry about how you felt about this man worry about how he feels about you. Do you think someone who truely loves you would treat you in the way he does? This is not just what men are like. There are decent men out there who could love and respect you in the way you deserve. Don't settle for less. xxxx

chillycurtains · 30/03/2016 21:19

You are in the start of an abusive relationship. His behaviour could be aggravated by his sexual frustration but this is not going to go away as you don't want to have sex with him. You need to go your separate ways for both your sakes.

BastardGoDarkly · 30/03/2016 21:24

He won't change and suddenly be a father because you give in and have sex with him again! You know that right?

He's a bastard, and you'll be better off without him.

Flowers
hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 21:25

Thanks both chillie and house. Chillie it's already an abusive relationship as his physically assaulted me numerous of times.

House do you think I'm also part of the blame in the relationship?

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hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 21:26

Sorry poster too soon... As you said "this relationship isn't healthy for the both of you".

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Ughnotagain · 30/03/2016 21:32

You are not to blame for any of his behaviour.

Abusive behaviour is a choice, his choice, his alone.

You deserve so, so much better.

hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 21:45

Thank you Bastard and Up, he even had the audacity to text me just now and said "Sorry.... You can actually come tomorrow".

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LindyHemming · 30/03/2016 22:02

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hollowintheriver · 30/03/2016 22:07

I feel like everything is my fault Sad maybe I don't give him enough sex. I withheld sex from him, because of the abortion, his abusive ways and I felt like he was just using me as he does fuck all for DS.

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Atenco · 31/03/2016 01:11

You must work on your self-esteem, OP. One of the problems with being in an abusive relationship is that your self-esteem takes a real battering. There is nothing you could do to deserve this mental and physical violence. And son deserves much better than that bastard.

Deathclawswouldrunfrommykids · 31/03/2016 01:40

I don't have a lot to add, you have had great advice on this thread so far, but I wanted to assure you that you don't ever have to have sex unless you want to.

My son is 10 months old and in that time I think my DP and I have had sex maybe 6 times. Is it frustrating for him? Yes, but not once has he ever tried to guilt or otherwise force me into it. You don't do that to the people you love.

DistanceCall · 31/03/2016 01:47

What exactly is your fault here?

May I ask, what kind of relationships did you see when you were a child growing up? Because you really seem to have no idea of what a good, loving relationship looks like, poor thing.

DistanceCall · 31/03/2016 01:48

By the way, when someone wants sex, he or she can always masturbate to relieve himself or herself. Nobody dies because they are denied sex.

hollowintheriver · 01/04/2016 11:02

I gave in Sad

But why do I feel so shit and vulnerable ?

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hollowintheriver · 01/04/2016 11:51

I feel like I have to work on my self esteem issues. DP is better looking than me (as people have told me that why is a guy like DP with me). So I feel like I'm "lucky" to have DP as he can have any girl he wants and that I'm stupid to let him go.

But I feel so horrible that I gave in. When I was out with him, he kept looking at other girls (which I don't mind), but he was doing it all the time, which made me feel inferior. I asked him why does he keep on looking but his reply was that they looked at him (they didn't) and that he must look back, he also said that they must find him "so sexy", he said this in a jokey way, but I still felt a bit down. I don't know. I think I'm just wasting my time.

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leelu66 · 01/04/2016 12:09

You're not in a relationship.

You're his booty call.

Every day you're wasting with this loser is a day you could have taken to heal from this abusive relationship.

Looks are nothing. They fade. Some people can be outwardly attractive, but when you get to know their ugly nature, they start to be less attractive.

You are so young. Please don't throw your life away on this loser. It's so great that you are going to university. Take the opportunities that life gives you and leave behind baggage from the past, like this sex pest.

hollowintheriver · 01/04/2016 13:08

Thank you leelu but why am I finding it so difficult to leave him? That's what I can't get my head around.

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