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What is your relationship like with your ex if you have children ?

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Whoareyou765 · 18/02/2016 11:43

Just that really.
Are you friends?
Do you spend time all together? (Not including childrens birthday and christmas - school plays)
Do you show an active interest in the others life ?

Or are you civil ?
See each other minimally at contact ?
Have little conversation etc.

I'd be interested to know.

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Fourormore · 19/02/2016 20:12

No, no lunches out, no trips together. We tolerate jointly hosting birthday parties in a neutral venue.
He treated me like crap, broke my heart, used my PND against me and got someone else pregnant very quickly. If we didn't have the children, I wouldn't want to see him again.

If we'd grown apart and the relationship had ended respectfully then maybe but it wasn't like that.

YouMakeMyDreams · 19/02/2016 20:15

I have 2 of them Hmm
Ex no1 my oldest twos dad is a total arsehole. I don't speak to him in between his monthly 6 weekly visits to pick up the kids unless I need to. He calls them direct. BUT we are pleasant at pick up and if we are passing his house, he lives couple of hours away, we all including Dh pop in for coffee and a sandwich etc. At his and hid dw's invitation because it's nice for the kids and their little boy loves his siblings and often wants to tell me his news when he's on FaceTime to them.

Ex no. 2. I have known since I was 7 we grew up two doors apart. We were both vulnerable when we got together and really shouldn't have but thankfully separated before we hated each other. He lives 125 miles away comes every fortnight to see all three Dc (only youngest is his) spends every second Christmas here when he has his oldest son my dss. Was here his year for new year. We ring each other for a chat and he is one of my best friends. Dh says we are like brother and sister and he isn't at all threatened by it. And only reason he wasn't at our wedding was because he had another wedding the day before and for various reasons that trumped ours.

VoyageOfDad · 19/02/2016 20:16

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Whoareyou765 · 19/02/2016 20:21

Do you have new partners ?! Voyageofdad

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Whoareyou765 · 19/02/2016 20:30

We had a tumultuous split but behind closed doors, the children didn't see or hear anything.
We weren't like this. It's just slipped into life now and I wonder if that's because life is no longer as green and shiney as he thought? Perhaps he's having his cake ? Perhaps he's missing what he had!

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Hassled · 19/02/2016 20:34

I split with my oldest 2 DCs' father when they were quite little, and am very lucky in that we always managed to stay friends - so yes, we went to parents' evenings and school functions together, that sort of thing. The DCs are adult now but he'll still pop in for a glass of wine sometimes and we (ex, his wife, me, DH) meet up socially quite often. I went to his father's funeral and to his wedding, he gets on well with DH. He's even guardian to my younger DCs should DH and I be hit by a bus or whatever.

And I count my blessings on a regular basis when I read the horror stories on MN where it hasn't worked out so well. It must be horrendous.

Hassled · 19/02/2016 20:38

Sorry - I've only now read your updates. I think you're right to be wary re his motives - it does sound like he's regretting his actions. But what do you actually want to happen? Are you happier post split?

Whoareyou765 · 19/02/2016 21:05

I'm happy and content in my life at the moment.
Took all the hurt etc and plundered into positive outcomes - fine tuning my life and generally being better than I was.
I don't to see him hurt or my children but if guess I'll have to say no at some point before or if he tries coming back.

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Helmetbymidnight · 19/02/2016 21:10

He's a user tho eh?

He slept with her when he was with you, and now flirts with you, when he's with her.

Whoareyou765 · 19/02/2016 21:14

Yes I guess.
I think I'm overthinking because he bought me a gift the other day.
Coincidentally on valentines. Something I'd mentioned in passing not hugely expensive or romantic - just thoughtful.
It's odd.

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mrshudson221b · 20/02/2016 05:00

I have keys to her flat and show genuine concern / interest in her life as well as support

Some of the exes mentioned in this thread including the above one, show more affection and kindness than my h does to me Confused. He wouldn't even know/realise that I was going through a tough time let alone buy me a thoughtful gift.

Am going to bury my head in the sand about what this says about our "relationship" Sad.

Whoareyou765 · 20/02/2016 07:35

I think I would question it less if we had both decided from the beginning that it would be an amicable split and we fell out of love rather than dislike and hurt being thrown into the mix.
It was me who worked incredibily hard to maintain an adult relationship with him so the children saw their two most loved people working together even though they were apart. He would never have spent an afternoon with us let alone a whole day in my company.
Now though these days are all at his behest and as I say we've been out more times in the last 7 or 8 weeks than we did when were together.

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LumpishAndIllogical · 20/02/2016 10:37

Terrible

He left me when I was pregnant, told me I had ruined his life by 'getting' pregnant. Acted like a child for someone in his 40s. Was v controlling.

Seemed to get better as was there at the birth, but when we got home my mum said 'I won't stay as (ex-partner) is here'

However

After she left, ex went straight the the pub. I spent the first night back with a newborn baby alone, after giving birth, still out-of-it from no sleep/pethidine day before. Baby screamed all night/didn't feed, Midwife saw me in the morning and shocked I was alone

Stayed alone mainly until met DP

Ex now sees DS once a month, I drop him off at a museum etc

He won't even let DS call him DADDY

He's not like a father at all

Contact is on and off, really frustrating! Depends what he is doing with his life. He gets really interested but also loses interest.

I don't know what to do

usedagain · 20/02/2016 11:44

Civil. But I would never choose to spend time with him. The children are now old enough to mostly arrange their own vpcontact with him, and we live close to one another.
He pays some child support and has always been available to see them on one day at a weekend. But that's it.
I would never ever invite him into my home ....

GrammarTool · 20/02/2016 11:59

I've been separated from my STBXH for 8 months (we have to wait for 1 year before divorcing here in Australia). We've got 50/50 custody of our 2 DDs and mostly things are good.

I have a ton of respect for him and he's 110% reliable. We share kids' stuff (eg when they need shoes or whatever he pays half) and still chat about everyday things not to do with the kids. We don't seek out each other's company or anything though.

All in all ours is a best case scenario.

Whoareyou765 · 20/02/2016 12:11

Grammartool - but you don't spend time out for lunches or day trips?!
It was the scenario we had previous until last year near ending then it's kind of stepped up in dynamic.

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PaperDollChain · 20/02/2016 15:36

I'm finding this thread really interesting reading. I often feel terribly guilty about the state of mine and XH's relationship as co-parents.

We split up after yet another ow in a long string of affairs over our 12 year relationship. At first I was desperate for us to be amicable and friendly for our DDs. I even voluntarily left the marital home and didn't pursue my interest in it, or any other financial compensation for my share of the marital assets. I was a SAHP and had only just gone back to work after a lengthy break. I did this because I knew that what mattered most to XH was the money and house and hoped that by not 'raking' anything, we would get on better. XH was desperate for us to get back together initially so was mostly nice to me - well, as much as an EA man can be. At tis point we did an awful lot as a 'family' and spent quite a lot of time together with the dc.

I'm not 100% sure when this position changed. XH was getting more and more frustrated that I soukdnt give us another go and became convinced I was seeing someone else. I wasn't at that point but when I did start dating, it took another dramatic dive.

In between this happening, I was reading more threads on here and starting to realise how badly he was emotionslly abusing me. I began to hate him. He was still controlling and abusive after we split.

These days, he's incredibly nit-picky and critical of everytjing I do with the DCs. He has them a lot (3 nights a week) but picks them up so close to bedtime, it's bareky worth it. Of course part of his motivation in doing this is a reduction in child maintenance (which to be fair, he does pay regularly). He won't contribute to anything else, hasn't done a single school run, doesn't bother with parents evening etc etc and anything he does do, I have to be careful to arrange for him, eg. Ordering school concert tickets for him. The dc report being very bored at his house as he doesn't do much with them and they much prefer being at my house.

I fear he's starting to lose interest even more since he met a new women (not the first since our split but he really likes this one apparently). Things also went really sour when I met my BF. XH absolutely detests my bf despite never having met him. He's very open about this with the dc and so they have struggled with torn loyalties.

So all this has been a sustained slide into hating each other and that is how our relationship stands at this point. I had reached a point of indifference but I hate him for the way he continues to try and abuse me even though I left 3 years ago. I left partly because I didn't want my two daughters to witness him abusing me and accept this for themselves. But they still see him doing it now. It means I fight back a lot because I want them to get the message that they shouldn't ever tolerate it, but then they have to see me and their dad hating each other which isn't ideal.

I carry the guilt for the way things are. Because I care way more than he does, I feel like the responsibility is squarely on my shoulders and I fesent him further for this. In all honesty, it an absolute mess and only real victims are my DDs but I feel powerless to change the dynamic. Thank you to the pp up thread who talked about ignoring those who tell you to compromise, that it's not always possible to do that with unreasonable exes. I really needed to hear that because I've tried, really tried over the years but nothing improves.

Apologies for the epic rant. As you can probably tell, this subject is hugely significant for me right now.

dustmyduvet · 20/02/2016 16:50

Paperdollchain - I witnessed someone very close to me suffer years of drunken phone calls, name calling, nasty comments, rubbish parenting etc from her ex.

After I split from my ex we had the whole let's be civil, think of the kids talk. That lasted about 3 months, then on the 3rd occasion he came into our home and tried to pick a fight in front of the children, I was done. I told him via text never to speak to or approach me again. All communication was to be via text. Luckily our eldest can make any arrangements with him, but it shouldn't have to be that way.

He pays maintenance, sees them very regularly and I 100% support their relationship with him. He tries to act like I don't exist but that's fine, my concern for the children far outweighs any negative feelings I may have for him.

I agree how annoying it is when people try and tell you that you should try and maintain some sort of relationship. My thoughts on reading your post were could you try the non contact route with your ex? My kids know why I don't have any contact, and consequently there's no drama or upset (apart from the occasional snipey text !!!)

83mummypig · 20/02/2016 19:14

Me and my ex are very amicable. We communicate daily and in a weird way know a bit about what's going on in each other's lives - although not about our new partners. We do do the occasional day out also. I wouldn't consider him a friend, but if he turns up and DD isn't ready we'll chat etc.

My oh and his ex however despise each other with a passion. They cannot communicate without an argument. Police have been involved, solicitors etc, it's horrible.

83mummypig · 20/02/2016 19:15

I'll add that pre us each having partners we spent a lot of time togther. We thought we were developing feelings for each other again, so decided to

83mummypig · 20/02/2016 19:17

Posted too soon..

Decided to give it a go.
It was awful. We just missed the family side, not each other

Whendoigetadayoff · 20/02/2016 19:29

Get on well. Spend family days together at weekend. In and out houses during week if seeing or picking up children. Also unusually go on holiday together - though that can be a bit of a strain. But know we shouldn't be together and why. Discuss children, school etc, their pets, and work and mutual acquaintances or the news but never personal life/details.

DharmaLlama · 20/02/2016 20:09

My ex and I are amicable and cordial, without actively being close friends. We can spend time together at events and chat and be friendly, but we don't do 'family' things together. We've been split up 5 years, and in the first few months or first year we did do stuff together, for the sake of our young child, but that tapered off, which I think is healthiest in most cases.

It's definitely possible for exes to be genuine good friends, but quite rare, and it can be a sign of continued dysfunction. I'm afraid yours sounds more like one of the latter.