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Just devastated

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pumpkinmoon1 · 08/02/2016 14:29

I have been with my boyfriend for six months. Minor issues about time spent together and effort (or lack of) seemingly put into the relationship from his side. Major issues being that we wanted different things, I want to get married one day and have a child, he doesn't. Another major issues is him alluding to the fact that he was not over his ex after being apart for over 10 years.

We met and clicked, it was great. He told me that he had 'relationships' in the last 10 years, but kept it casual, was always upfront about lettig them know this and the fact that it wasn't going to go anywhere. I should have ran away then, but I stayed. Why? Because he said I was different and he wanted more. He wanted to be exclusive after 2 weeks or datng and soon after wated to label us as in a proper relationship. He did a good job of making me feel wanted and speicla and 'different'. But time went on and things played on my mind.

At 6 months, I still had not met his family. He neevr really told anyone about me unless they found out of their own accord eg saw us together.

Last weekend was a turning point. We were laying in bed talking on a Sunday morning, and he said that he had to go, he always did this on a Sunday. He said that he had to take a keyboard to his parents for his neice as she was having lessons and wanted to practice. So I was a little dissaponted. Not about the fact that he had to deliver the keyboard, but about the fact that I was just sick and tired of being left alone every Sunday afternoon when we could have been doing things as a couple like most normal people. So he thought that I thought he was making excuses to leave. He asked me if I wanted to go with him. This was a first. I thought that we were actually moving forward. I asked him what he meant and said that I bet his parents didn't even know he had a gf, and he said 'nope', but I could wait in the car. I was gutted. Gutted that after 6 months, I wasn't importaant enough to even be mentioned.

Fast forward to this weekend. Sunday again, we wake up and he says he has to go soon. To pick p a TV with his dad and watched the football and rugby AGAIN. I was calm and said that we need to have a talk about this Sunday afternoon stuff and that it would just be nice to do syuff as a couple on weekends. He mentioned the times he saw me in the week (Tuesday and Thursday evenings for about 4 hours each) and I said I understood that but we can't really do anything in the week as we have work the next day, and weekends are better. He then said that maybe hes just not a good boyfried, and that he isn't relationship material. I told him that he could be if he wanted to be.

He then said that maybe because he has been single so long he is jst stuck in his ways and he's used to doing what he wanted. I really can't remember what was said next but we got to talking about the 'casual' relationships he had in the last 10 years becasue he said that the longest they lasted would be about 3 months. I asked who would end them and he said he would for the most part. I asked why and he said that when he tells me I will probably not want to see him again. What I heard next killed me and I am beginning to shake even as I type this. He said that as he was still living in the past as far as his ex of over 10 years was concerned and always had the hope that they would get back together so when she would contact him out of the blue, he would go meet her and that would be how these relationshps ended. He then went onto say that he should have been more honest with me and that he was still in love with his ex, head over heels in love in fact. So I said that he basically fed me a load of bullshit all these months and despite claiming to 'like' me more than these casuals and that I was different to him, he afforded them more decency as he was up front with them. He said this wasnt the case. I asked if he had been texting her behind my back. He said he hadn't but text her at Christmas and New Year but she didn't reply. I asked him if she was with someone and he said she was. I asked him how he knew but he wouldn't tell me. I asked him if she was married (she's 12 years older than him so 52), he didn't say no, but just repeated she is with someone. SO I think she is married and I think she was when she was with him because he absolutely refuses to talk about it. He said that he wouldn't get into her personal life because she has done nothing wrong, so yes, I definitely think she is married. I asked how they broke up but he wouldn't tell me, he knows my views on people who cheat.

So then he said that I'm sure you have a question in your mind. I asked what he meant by this a little while after. He said I was hoping to avoid that, but went on to say that I probably have the question that if she were to text him now while he's still in a relationship with me, would he go meet her, and then he said he would. As if heaving that he was still head over heels in love with her wasn't enough.

Before he left, he started crying and begged me to let him come back later to talk. I couldn't even answer him but hugged him when I could see the tears dripping from his face. He said that he didn't want to lose me but said he knows how stupid that must sound to me. He text me a little later and came back. I couldn't even speak or look at him. He brought cans of alcohol with him which he sometiems does as we usually have a can or two in front of the TV. He asked if I wanted one and I said I didn't, but said he could have one if he wanted, so he did. Then he sat on the sofa next to me put his hand on my leg in an affectionate way and proceeded to make small talk about what was on TV as IF NOTHING HAD HAPPENED?

We didn't talk. I was so so upset and we just hugged for hours and cried. He said that I was so beautiful and could have any man I wanted but I ended up with a fucking idiot like him. He said he was so so sorry and that he was a massive dick for all of this and that it is all his fault. I cried that much and got so worked up I made myself sick. We eneded up falling asleep. I was exhausted from crying all day and not being able to eat anything.

We woke up and he had to leave as he had work the next morning. He usually comes over on a Tuesday and before he left he was hugging me and asked to come over Tuesday but he would understand if I didn't want to see him. I couldn't answer. Eventually I said that it's not like I don't want to see him, then he finsihed the sentence and said, but you think might be best not to and I agreed. He told me to think about it and to let him know. He hugged me again by the door before leaving and said that I mean so much to him. It did not help to hear such things, it just hurt more. When he got home he text me as he usually does and said that he was back home,and that he hopes I sleep well an that he wished he could be with me and cuddle me in his arms all night. I replied and told him that I hoped he sleeps well. He then text me this morning saying, 'Morning beautiful girl. Hope you slept well and that you're feeling ok today. I'm still feeling a bit tired and could do with going back to bed'. I haven't answered. I don't know how to respond to that. How a I meant to feel ok today? I have had barely any sleep. I haven't eaten. I am still in my pajamas, I had to take the day off work because I just couldn't face it. How does he expect me to feel ok? Does he not remember what he said to me yesterday? I know he doesn't want this to be over, but how could he think I could possibly stay with him? How could I let him come here Tuesday (like usual) and just be able to carry on? I'll be perfectly honest, I don't want it over either but I really have no choice. Even if he cheated on me, they may somehow be a way around that, but there is no way around the fact that he is still in love with his ex, and after 10 years+ that is never going to change. How can someone still be in love with someone when they broke up that long ago? nd wich someone they haven't seen for over two years.

I don't know how to proceed. I am a total mess.

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HazelBite · 11/02/2016 16:28

Op you have criticized his ex (the older woman) who is obviously a lot wiser than you as she has dumped him ,moved on and is not replying to his texts!

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:29

LOL, my god VAR! lol I spat my coffee on myself reading that. I'm surprised he didn't ask me who had a bigger penis. He asked pretty much everything else, like who initiated the sex, did I go down on him (I didn't), did he go down on me (he didn't), did he do it from behind!! Why he would want to know is just madness.

He actually text last night about coming over tonight. I think I posted about that. I didnt reply. He has sent another text today saying, I don't want to keep bringing up about seeing you as it probably makes you feel awkward about answering which is fair enough, and I don't want you to feel like I'm putting you on the spot. So I'll just ask if there's any chance of seeing you tonight but if not or you'd prefer not to say I fully understand, and I'll try not to pester you with asking until or if you feel ready to see me'.

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temporaryusername · 11/02/2016 16:31

OP I am kind of embarrassed for you that you ever gave this man the time of day, he sounds completely deluded, nasty, self obsessed, inadequate and just yucky. Thank your lucky stars you have seen the light. Send a text saying that the relationship isn't working for you and is over, please don't contact again. Don't bother explaining why or wondering how he'll react. He will never have any decent reaction, will never understand or care about your feelings, and it is all irrelevant to you now anyway. You do sound as if you have some bad attitudes towards women - ' useless tart who can't change a lightbulb' etc. Addressing that might help you filter out other men who can't respect you.

Send that text now and block his number. Now. Do it OP. Yep, now. Whatever you fell afterwards you will deal with, no need for him to be involved. No purpose to seeing how he reacts. No need to see the 'level' of how bad he is by waiting for Valentine's Day. He is bad enough that you are certain, correctly, that he can't be in your life. What more do you need to know? Don't kid yourself about your reasons for not firmly ending it, yabu!

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:32

You are 100% right HazelBite, I should actually look up to her as she was able to fuck him off without looking back. In the 10 years though she was in contact giving him false hope, meeting him now and again so she either found it this difficult or she was messing with him.

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temporaryusername · 11/02/2016 16:34

Urge, cross post.

No, I don't feel awkward at all! I won't be seeing you tonight, in fact this is not working for me so the relationship is over. Please don't bother to contact me again.

temporaryusername · 11/02/2016 16:34

Ugh not urge..

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:35

Sorry I was trying to illistrate the fact that while he is useless as others have said about him, and he is, I'm not. Didn't mean to offend. I have jumped off my high horse and the rant is over.

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:36

I am also embarrassed at myself and my behaviour temporaryusername. I really am. As soon as he said what he did, I should have got up and told him to get the F out and thrown his jacket after him.

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:39

What woman in their right might would let him turn on the water works, and let him come back that night? To bring cans down to have a drink in front of the TV, and act like nothing happened? I don't think there is any hope for me at all. Even with him gone now, I will probably just make exactly the same mistakes in my next relationship

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temporaryusername · 11/02/2016 16:41

I meant more the fact that you've spent all this time with a man who is so obviously horrible. I didn't mean it critically, just that I think you yourself will look back and cringe. I cannot believe he has such a high opinion of himself and of your adoration that he thinks you will feel awkward about answering. He can't conceive of the idea that it is very simple and clear to you, that this is over. Clear that up for him.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:42

mind*

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temporaryusername · 11/02/2016 16:48

If you look behind all that pretence of being a decent caring person, all the don't want to pester/ I undertstand crap, all he is actually saying is..' Am I right in thinking that you are so into me/have so little self respect that you will take me back despite the fact that I have blatantly told you I will never give you anything you want and don't care about you?'.

var123 · 11/02/2016 16:52

You'll be fine once you've put some distance between yourself and him. After a while you'll wonder why you kept giving him more chances long after you knew it could never work out.
Then you'll make some rules up about behaviour would mean an automatic end to a relationship.

None of us are perfect, or haven't made mistakes and won't make more in the future, but you surely must see that if you do not respect yourself then no one else will and you'll be like a dog-whistle for emotionally abusive men who only want to use you? That basic rule applies to everyone, men and women alike.

var123 · 11/02/2016 16:53

so write that text. Write it now. Make 60 seconds ago the very last moment of your old life.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 16:57

Do you think he will actually leave me alone when I have told him it is over or do you think he will try to talk me out of it?

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Cleensheetsandbedding · 11/02/2016 17:00

Hi op just reading what he sent you in text last night, this guy is super sure your going to want to see him at some point. What a nerve!

He knows how you felt about him and is using it to manipulate you. He is a prize prick!

tipsytrifle · 11/02/2016 17:00

How do you know she gave him false hope? His word? How do you know anything at all about what went on there, what might still be going on, whether she even exists? What do you really really know about the objective reality of this ex? And what right do you have to judge her for anything anyway since she was (allegedly) before you? If HE had any decency, and there was any truth in his tale, HE'D have ended it with her to be with you. Except wasn't it ended anyway? By her? So why are you dissing her? "What woman in her right mind etc etc ..."

So now, he upholds the simpering fool in love with a distant goddess act to keep you enthralled. It has. When things get a bit iffy he recalls other women he's almost got close to and been hurt by. Of all ages and lifestyles. He's no wounded hero, pumpkin. He's a misogynistic, self-centred, abusive, fantasist, lying toe-rag.

You're directing anger at the wrong folk. Women. Send it where it should be. At yourself first, for tolerating this utter madman who will take you down further than you can imagine right now. Then at him. The originator.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 17:02

I know that I haven't told him it is over yet, I should have grown some balls by now and done that, but even so, and it is my fault, but it is a bit unbelievable that he would think that after what he said I would want to ever see him again, whether I told him it was over or not.

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Cleensheetsandbedding · 11/02/2016 17:03

Just ignore him.

If you engage he will try to work his way in. He is counting on that.

He does not want to be alone yet he wants to keep his options open in case his true love whistles for him again:

Any decent bloke would just let you go after the bollocks he admitted to but this guy just wants to keep you hanging around for play time.

Why are you not getting angry ? Why are you still considering talking to him?

ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 17:05

Do you think he will actually leave me alone when I have told him it is over or do you think he will try to talk me out of it?

Why? Are you hoping for the drama? Or are you afraid you'll relent if he tries to talk you out of it?

ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 17:07

And by the way, it's fine if he 'talks you round', but do know that you are a fuck buddy and nothing more... Not an issue if you like that, but I sense that you want more from life.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 17:07

No her me, what woman in her right mind would allow him to come back over here I meant. You're right, it is just what he has told me and he hasn't really proven himself as trustworthy and honest has he? He didn't say he got hurt by the other women, but alluded to the fact that they were hurt by him. Yet he kept being available to meeting people knowing he would never be what they wanted. He said that they accepted it would be on a casual basis and at first they were ok with that until a few months in when they really weren't ok with that and they wanted more. He said you can't blame them really, as that;s the way it usually goes when meaning one always ends up wanting more than the other. So he knew, he had seen it happen time and time again with these poor women he dated, but carried on doing it to everyone he ever met. He should have just stayed single and had one night stands. But he said that it was nice to have the company now and then and have a laugh with someone.

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var123 · 11/02/2016 17:08

There's only one way to find out.... but you don't have to read the texts or answer the phone.

temporaryusername · 11/02/2016 17:09

I think he will leave you alone very quickly when he realises you are not going to pander to him any more.

Grrrrwhattodo · 11/02/2016 17:10

I don't understand why you haven't sent the text already... Are you hoping that maybe you will actually reconcile?

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