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Just devastated

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pumpkinmoon1 · 08/02/2016 14:29

I have been with my boyfriend for six months. Minor issues about time spent together and effort (or lack of) seemingly put into the relationship from his side. Major issues being that we wanted different things, I want to get married one day and have a child, he doesn't. Another major issues is him alluding to the fact that he was not over his ex after being apart for over 10 years.

We met and clicked, it was great. He told me that he had 'relationships' in the last 10 years, but kept it casual, was always upfront about lettig them know this and the fact that it wasn't going to go anywhere. I should have ran away then, but I stayed. Why? Because he said I was different and he wanted more. He wanted to be exclusive after 2 weeks or datng and soon after wated to label us as in a proper relationship. He did a good job of making me feel wanted and speicla and 'different'. But time went on and things played on my mind.

At 6 months, I still had not met his family. He neevr really told anyone about me unless they found out of their own accord eg saw us together.

Last weekend was a turning point. We were laying in bed talking on a Sunday morning, and he said that he had to go, he always did this on a Sunday. He said that he had to take a keyboard to his parents for his neice as she was having lessons and wanted to practice. So I was a little dissaponted. Not about the fact that he had to deliver the keyboard, but about the fact that I was just sick and tired of being left alone every Sunday afternoon when we could have been doing things as a couple like most normal people. So he thought that I thought he was making excuses to leave. He asked me if I wanted to go with him. This was a first. I thought that we were actually moving forward. I asked him what he meant and said that I bet his parents didn't even know he had a gf, and he said 'nope', but I could wait in the car. I was gutted. Gutted that after 6 months, I wasn't importaant enough to even be mentioned.

Fast forward to this weekend. Sunday again, we wake up and he says he has to go soon. To pick p a TV with his dad and watched the football and rugby AGAIN. I was calm and said that we need to have a talk about this Sunday afternoon stuff and that it would just be nice to do syuff as a couple on weekends. He mentioned the times he saw me in the week (Tuesday and Thursday evenings for about 4 hours each) and I said I understood that but we can't really do anything in the week as we have work the next day, and weekends are better. He then said that maybe hes just not a good boyfried, and that he isn't relationship material. I told him that he could be if he wanted to be.

He then said that maybe because he has been single so long he is jst stuck in his ways and he's used to doing what he wanted. I really can't remember what was said next but we got to talking about the 'casual' relationships he had in the last 10 years becasue he said that the longest they lasted would be about 3 months. I asked who would end them and he said he would for the most part. I asked why and he said that when he tells me I will probably not want to see him again. What I heard next killed me and I am beginning to shake even as I type this. He said that as he was still living in the past as far as his ex of over 10 years was concerned and always had the hope that they would get back together so when she would contact him out of the blue, he would go meet her and that would be how these relationshps ended. He then went onto say that he should have been more honest with me and that he was still in love with his ex, head over heels in love in fact. So I said that he basically fed me a load of bullshit all these months and despite claiming to 'like' me more than these casuals and that I was different to him, he afforded them more decency as he was up front with them. He said this wasnt the case. I asked if he had been texting her behind my back. He said he hadn't but text her at Christmas and New Year but she didn't reply. I asked him if she was with someone and he said she was. I asked him how he knew but he wouldn't tell me. I asked him if she was married (she's 12 years older than him so 52), he didn't say no, but just repeated she is with someone. SO I think she is married and I think she was when she was with him because he absolutely refuses to talk about it. He said that he wouldn't get into her personal life because she has done nothing wrong, so yes, I definitely think she is married. I asked how they broke up but he wouldn't tell me, he knows my views on people who cheat.

So then he said that I'm sure you have a question in your mind. I asked what he meant by this a little while after. He said I was hoping to avoid that, but went on to say that I probably have the question that if she were to text him now while he's still in a relationship with me, would he go meet her, and then he said he would. As if heaving that he was still head over heels in love with her wasn't enough.

Before he left, he started crying and begged me to let him come back later to talk. I couldn't even answer him but hugged him when I could see the tears dripping from his face. He said that he didn't want to lose me but said he knows how stupid that must sound to me. He text me a little later and came back. I couldn't even speak or look at him. He brought cans of alcohol with him which he sometiems does as we usually have a can or two in front of the TV. He asked if I wanted one and I said I didn't, but said he could have one if he wanted, so he did. Then he sat on the sofa next to me put his hand on my leg in an affectionate way and proceeded to make small talk about what was on TV as IF NOTHING HAD HAPPENED?

We didn't talk. I was so so upset and we just hugged for hours and cried. He said that I was so beautiful and could have any man I wanted but I ended up with a fucking idiot like him. He said he was so so sorry and that he was a massive dick for all of this and that it is all his fault. I cried that much and got so worked up I made myself sick. We eneded up falling asleep. I was exhausted from crying all day and not being able to eat anything.

We woke up and he had to leave as he had work the next morning. He usually comes over on a Tuesday and before he left he was hugging me and asked to come over Tuesday but he would understand if I didn't want to see him. I couldn't answer. Eventually I said that it's not like I don't want to see him, then he finsihed the sentence and said, but you think might be best not to and I agreed. He told me to think about it and to let him know. He hugged me again by the door before leaving and said that I mean so much to him. It did not help to hear such things, it just hurt more. When he got home he text me as he usually does and said that he was back home,and that he hopes I sleep well an that he wished he could be with me and cuddle me in his arms all night. I replied and told him that I hoped he sleeps well. He then text me this morning saying, 'Morning beautiful girl. Hope you slept well and that you're feeling ok today. I'm still feeling a bit tired and could do with going back to bed'. I haven't answered. I don't know how to respond to that. How a I meant to feel ok today? I have had barely any sleep. I haven't eaten. I am still in my pajamas, I had to take the day off work because I just couldn't face it. How does he expect me to feel ok? Does he not remember what he said to me yesterday? I know he doesn't want this to be over, but how could he think I could possibly stay with him? How could I let him come here Tuesday (like usual) and just be able to carry on? I'll be perfectly honest, I don't want it over either but I really have no choice. Even if he cheated on me, they may somehow be a way around that, but there is no way around the fact that he is still in love with his ex, and after 10 years+ that is never going to change. How can someone still be in love with someone when they broke up that long ago? nd wich someone they haven't seen for over two years.

I don't know how to proceed. I am a total mess.

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Wheelerdeeler · 11/02/2016 14:26

He clearly needs professional help

You need to stop engaging with him - he wants his cake and to eat it.

Tell him to fook off to the far side of fook

var123 · 11/02/2016 14:28

TBH I have a bit of a problem with classifying other women as casuals.

OP - I think you should not get into another relationship until you have some idea of boundaries - both yours and his. Also learn to look at how your partner treats other people because that's how he will start treating you sooner or later.

But yes, leave this one now. Its weird that you are still there TBH

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 14:31

That part abput the 60 yr ols woman did make me feel sick. I brushed it off at the time because of the situation, we were just coming to the end of discussions about what happened with his friend, and in the week when I was at hime recovering I really thought that he was going to dump me over it. When we talked after he said that he had thought about doing that but he changed his mind and he was glad that he did. It was during that very same conversation that he asked me officially to be his girlfriend. Wtf?

I really am not enjoying this. I just don't deal with these things well at all. Anything like this causes me such emotional trauma to the point I almost become incapacitated. I never wanted to have to go through another break up again.

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var123 · 11/02/2016 14:33

Then choose more wisely next time and don't get so invested so quickly.

ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 14:36

Then stop prolonging the trauma and end it. NOW!

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 14:37

i'm not being disrespectful to these other women by calling them casuals, I feel bad for them that they had to meet him in the first place. After we got together, he said that one of them, the last one had been in touch. The must have broken up just before Christmas last year and she had not collected her presents. So anyway she contacted him asking him if she could come over to his and grab them and just have a chat. So it was arranged. He told me the day and time. Also said that he wanred her before hand that nothing was going to happen as he was now seeing someone new, and added that nothing would have happened anyway even if he as still single. So on the night that she was meant to go over, she text him to say that she couldn't make it. And he hasn't heard from her since. So I think that she didn't bother as he told her that he was with someone else and that she was going to go over to try to rekindle things. I think he ended it because after it ended, she posted a silver guitar pick through his door, which she had engraved with the words 'Just be happy (his name). So he mst have done a number on her too.

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kittykatsforever · 11/02/2016 14:40

What they said!!!!
Then stop prolonging the inevitable your making yourself worse!!
And what magic said, the thought that he would so heroically give up his boys Holliday to give some old lady the time to paddle in the mediterainian lol it is actually laughable when you read that!
Do you know anyone who would kiss/ spend time with anyone they wernt interested in just because they are such a nice person?!?
Pumpkin he is a player!!

Sunnyshores · 11/02/2016 14:42

I do really feel for you OP. But to say you thought this relationship was forever (even before the ex came to light) is ridiculous. You dont spend much time together, you are a secret to friends and family, his previous behaviour was awful. and now this info about his ex. He texted her at Xmas, as it happens she didnt reply, but if she had, he would have dumped you.

Your emotional trauma seems OTT. Yet still you are sitting there, waiting - waiting for what? Walk away now with some dignity and hope for the future. This is not going to work and he is damaging you and preventing you meeting Mr Right.

ladybird69 · 11/02/2016 14:44

pumpkin yes I divorced him and no contact since, but even during the divorce he was playing his mind games.
relationships are meant to make you happy, I wasn't and you don't sound like you are either. don't waste another second on this loser.

ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 14:46

With every minute that goes by without you dumping him, he'll be thinking he's got away with it...

"Ah, chuck in a few more niceties, keep her sweet, don't go overboard but turn on the tears and the platitudes and she might not run away"

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 14:49

I know, you are all right! I am sure you all feel like slapping me and I don't blame you at all.

ridemesideways - I don't care if he thinks that, he can think what he wants. He has a shock coming to him if he does think that though. I am just dreaming of a time where I run into him in town one night and I'm just able to smile, and walk the other way.

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ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 14:52

So why are you waiting, again? You want to see what he does next? Why?

Livingforlove · 11/02/2016 14:54

Having heard the further stories, I agree he is a player and he has treated you very badly. Now I feel sorry for the beach woman and the guitar pick woman.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 14:58

Honestly I am itching to do it, to tell him, I just need to pluck up the strength. I know how it sounds, he doesn't want me anyway, never has, but it is hard to think that when I tell him, I won't hear from him again. Sure I will see him out down the line somewhere, by which time I won't care by then anyway but right now I am finding it hard. I am definitely going to do it this weekend whether he mentions v day or not. I hope he is seeing all the ads on TV for it as I am and feeling like a bastard.

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:01

And yes I feel bad for them too. Not so much the beach woman, why a woman wel into her 60's would entertain the idea of fumbling around on the beach with a 38 yr old man is beyond me. But whatever, if it worked for her. I do however feel sorry for guitar pick woman. To have that engraved after they split, she must have really thought she had something special too. Funnily enough, when all this started I thought to myself that I would still work on that picture and get it printed and framed for him. He can fuck right off, I am not spending 90 quid on that, what a mug that would make me look after what he has said. He can get the love of his life to do it, and his fucking logo and business card.

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ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 15:03

You haven't done it because you'll miss him. You like the fact that he's still texting you and still wants to be with you.

He has been controlling you. Not a single one of his actions you ave described throughout the whole of this thread are those of a kind, loving man.

He probably doesn't give a shit about valentines day, other than getting a shag in, sorry to be blunt.

I would argue that if your self-esteem were higher, you would have done it already in a heartbeat.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:04

And given all this, I bet he would still ask if I could finish off the business card and logo for him. I wouldn't put that past him either. That's probably why he's trying to keep me about. Why does he even need them, it's not like he's in a band professionally. It's a fucking hobby which band practise every week is a bit excessive for if you ask me. I thought they were really good when I saw them, he's the singer and basist, but fuck me, I saw them again on NYE and I thought WTF.

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lazymoz · 11/02/2016 15:05

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var123 · 11/02/2016 15:05

he's seeing them without about as much interest as I feel when I see ads for a step-in bath or PPI claim companies. i.e. it barely registers (whatever lie he tells you later).
He doesn't know what it is to feel bad because of his behaviour. People are there for his pleasure, he owes them nothing and has no understanding of the word empathy.
Just do it and cross your fingers that you upgrade from whatever nightlife he enjoys to something more classy so you'll never meet him again.

ridemesideways · 11/02/2016 15:13

Are you hoping that he will be hit by a last minute massive revelation?

"OMG! What have I done to Pumpkin? What an utter fool I have been! She is the one I love! I will marry her, forsaking all others, and make many babies if she will have me."

Don't hold your breath, love. Leave with your head held high.

pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:14

Be as blunt as you like ridemesideways. It really helps. I struggle with all the stuff I posted and don't even see it as that bad? The holidays and meetings and pensioners, whatever... Maybe he needs older women to make him feel better about himself? To be honest... I don't know why I was/am so attracted to him. He is shorter than I usually go for at 5ft 8, he has thick curlyish hair which he is trying to GROW DOWN TO HIS CHIN ... He dyes it dark brown which looks black because it is almost 100% grey. His face is starting to sag. He has an ok body but a little bit of a belly but I didn't care. I know it's not all based on appearance, I'm just trying to point out that I wouldn't ever usuaully go for someone like this. I also thought he was too old for me at first. I am 4ft 11, slim, attractive, at least I am told I am a lot of the time and don't miss out on male attention, not that I am the kind who revels in that or welcomes it. I am kind, loyal, funny, quirky. I am a good housekeeper, I can cook, I can decorate, plaster, I do everything for myself including mowing lawns. I live in my own house, granted that was left to me by my mother who passed away in October 2013, so I didn't work for it myself but that wasn't my fault, I have a steady job which whilst doesn't pay really well, it's secure and as I don't have mortgage or rent to pay, I have a lot of spare money. YET he would prefer this 52 yr old hag and has a penchant for the older wrinkly prunes. I look young too, I still get asked for ID for cigarettes and alcohol regularly. It just makes me think what ythe actual fuck? He has told me he knows I am a very good catch. This is what makes me feel so worthless. If I was a useless tart who couldn't even change a lightbulb I could probably understand.

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:17

No - I know that wouldn't happen ridemesideways - although the notion has been a fleeting thought, I don't wish for that because I know it would be bullshit.

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:21

Also, dispite this thread where I must need a head transplant, I am not thick, I'm intelligent, I went to school, college, uni whilst also working. I have never cheated on anyone, I would do anything for anyone, esp a partner and it's still not enough. So yes, I hope one day he will look back and realise what he lost. It will always be too late.

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:23

despite*

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pumpkinmoon1 · 11/02/2016 15:23

despite*

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