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Can really incredible sex make you think you're in love?

97 replies

brownpillow · 05/02/2016 18:01

I have a new boyfriend and I don't even think he is a very nicer person. I thought he was at first, really thought he was a great person, but a few things have come to light since I have known him that would definitely have put me right off.

Although the sex is absolutely out of this world. The kissing feels amazing, as does the cuddles and we have great talks.

I am wondering how much the phsyical side of things being so incredible would slant my viewpoint on him?

Can really, really good sex and someone's body looking /feeling / smelling right in a way you find irresistable really make you view them in a better light than you should?

I feel unsatisfied in the relationship but hang on because I sense potential but wonder how much of that is just a fantasy in my mind.

It's not "love" is it, when you feel so happy and addicted to someone like that?

I sort of both hate him and crave him, and no, he's not gorgeous or anything.

OP posts:
SirisSister · 06/02/2016 21:00

not at all any fucker. I wish I'd not started, and, having started, left when l still had the upperhand land didn't really care.
Brownpillow
this really struck a nerve with me:

"I am thinking why I am letting this idiot make me feel rejected and confused when I don't even truly like who he is and feel I am too good for him.'

I used to think very similar ...a VERY long time ago. Read my thread and see how I feel about myself now. and worse I can't see an end or a solution in sight for me.

sounds trite but save yourself! that's my advice. but suspect you won't manage it depending how far gone you are. this kind of thing can be like quicksand.

BertieBotts · 06/02/2016 21:03

Long but worth it.

www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/getting-stuck-on-chemistry/

BlondeOnATreadmill · 06/02/2016 21:29

How old are you Op?

When I was in my 20's and 30's, I would have tried to dissect all of this "man" behaviour. Analysed texts. Hashed it all out with girlfriends and copious amounts of wine

It's all bullshit though. If it's causing you any amount of angst, then it's just not worth it.

I'm now 46, and I would put up with this shit, for about 5 minutes.

If you are indeed "Cockstruck" (great word), then remind yourself, that there are over 30 million cocks in the UK, and you could try to find one that is attached to a man that is not an utter twat with emotional ishooos. How very boring. Get a real Man. He isn't one.

You need a Ronseal Man. One who does what it says on the tin.

AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 21:35

Ronseal man Smile

BlondeOnATreadmill · 06/02/2016 21:42

I have a Ronseal Man Smile

Always does what he says on the Tin.

Could not hack anything else these days. Fuck all that shit!

brownpillow · 06/02/2016 22:07

Thanks everybody, I have been readign all day but was working so couldn't reply.

Garlic That was an amazing post and it's exactly like that. Giving you inconsistent reassurance or whatever makes you feel mad. Jst like endlessly chucking money in a fruit machine.

For everyone else, thanks for answering the question that basically the chemistry doesn't mean anything. I am still early enough in to get out without it hurting too much.

Siri I read your thread all the way through and can I just say that I completely understand how you got to feeling the way you do. It's a sort of mental torture to be given just enough but not quite because you feel like you need to work for affection and it makes you feel not good enough.

Both other times I was "in love" I felt very secure, comfortable and happy and this is a different sort of feeling where he makes me feel "less than", and exactly like you I genuinely didn't even like him. He had to chase me for ages.

I think it's a sort of mild abuse, like stratgies to control someone's mind. I understand you feel addicted - I do too - I hope you can work through it because there's nothing wrong with you.

To answer the earlier question I am 37 and no, have never gone for bad boys at all. He's not a bad boy, he is just an emotionless selfish prick who is sort of weak and insecure. It was genuinely just a case of him devoting a long period of time to making me feel like he thought I was wonderful, and that he was a great human being and then him suddenly withdrawing that in fits and starts.

I think someone said earlier than this hot /cold seems to be popular nowadays and I thought about that all afternoon.

I thinkpart of it is out culture nowadays where they can get sex without dates.

Another part is mobile phones and the ability they have to now keep a woman hanging with a few texts well placed.

Another part is dating sites making men who would otherwise fucking crap at picking up a woman at work suddenly viable for getting a buffet of women.

The whole lot is just contributing to a problem of emotionally damaged, shallow men taking advantage of women who are maybe a bit vulberable for whatever reason. It would never have worked 20 years ago.

I am going to get the hell out of this relationship, despite the chemistry, because I don't want amazing sex if it's with someone I have no future with. It was just that the amazing sex and physical /emotional / hormonal connection was extremely strong for me and it made me feel wonderful feelings that I think distracted my brain from the fact that a lot of the time he's just an inconsiderate, selfish wanker.

Also, you know, when someone does blow hot and cold on you it messes with your mind to the level that you don't even get angry at them because you are trying to play nice to get their love back.

Sick really...

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 22:11

So, you are ending it ?

Properly ending it ?

brownpillow · 06/02/2016 22:19

Yes. I started the thread pretty sure I was going to. Have thought about it for ages but it was just the "oh but he is the one" thing holding me back. that, coupled with the fact that he keeps just enough distance between us to stop me from every splitting up with him.

Have been reading baggage reclaim for ages and recognising him in every bloody page. It's just been a case of being in two minds.

Mind one: Amazing sex with someone who is selfish, immature, lacks empathy, non commital, doesnt care about me that much, isn't as nice a person that I am, is self obsessed and will never make me anything but miserable = massive turn off.

Midn two: We can't possibly feel this good around each other if it doesn't mean something. I know underneath he is a good person and this level of connection must mean he is "the one". Being with me is the answer to change him and teach him about love and once I break down his walls we will be happy = Massive turn on.

I am realising mind one is the truth and mind two is just bull shit.

I just wanted it to be mind two.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 22:24

Then make it so

brownpillow · 06/02/2016 22:27

I really will. Thanks Anyfucker.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 22:33
Thanks
BlondeOnATreadmill · 06/02/2016 22:43

Yes end it, because AF says so. AGAIN. Aarghhhh. Do what YOU want Op. AF breaks up couples every day. Whilst warming her toes on her perfect Husband every night. VOM.

AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 22:46

OP, I wouldn't qualify that with a response. Seriously.

BlondeOnATreadmill · 06/02/2016 22:52

Your posts on this thread:

  1. So are you ending it?

  2. Properly ending it?

  3. Then make it so.

Trying to break ANOTHER couple up.

No balanced opinion. Ever.

brownpillow · 06/02/2016 22:57

Well...I am capable of forming my own opinions. I read Siris thrad by the way and she sounds exactly like me and I don't want to be in that state in a year's time.

Also, remember I started the thread thinking my boyfriend wasnt a very good person, selfish and a liar. So, you know...

3 pages later and not one person thinks the chemistry means anything beyond hormones.

I just want to be happy with someone who makes me happy.

As a side note: I texted him half an hour ago to say I felt I'd reached the end of my rope with it and he replied "I understand". I said "I know you do". We have talked many times about my concerns of him being selfish and only half in the relationship.

Half an hour later and he just text me two words. "Oh well".

He's a bit of a dick.

That's the truth. He's not interested in how I feel. He's only interested in keeping me around to fill his needs and ego and I have felt that long before I started this thread.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 23:01

and soon you will have another text along the lines of "shall we meet to talk about it..." and off it goes again

you know the score, op

like I said, the ball is on your court

brownpillow · 06/02/2016 23:03

To be honest it's that bad that when we need to "talk", he conveniently always does that by text.

I have felt for ages like I am talking to a brick wall.

I just think he's really, really, really selfish. Emotionally.

I haven't seen him for two weeks as I was working this weekend and last weekend he was ill, so I've had a bit of time and space away from him.

I'm tired of feeling less than. Isn't the person I am seeing meant to make me feel more?

My last "loves" did, they made me feel great about myself and he does the opposite.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 23:05

Relationships are meant to enhance your life.

if all they do is bring you down, then you are right to end it

who needs that shit ?

brownpillow · 06/02/2016 23:11

I guess it's just hard to find...chemistry like that. You just want it to be right. You want it to be great so you convince yourself to gloss over the other stuff.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 23:14

Sex is an important part of a relationship.

You can find good sex elsewhere. And even if it isn't quite as good, a healthy dose of respect makes it even better. You know that.

BertieBotts · 06/02/2016 23:15

Chemistry is overrated. It's only addictive when you're in it. When you have other things then you don't need that. The sex can be just as good - physically, it can be better, actually, without the drama even if you don't have that lure.

Friendlystories · 06/02/2016 23:25

I think if Siri's post feels like a warning of what your future could be you're absolutely doing the right thing getting out now. You do sound completely capable of making your own decisions OP, I don't think you're blindly following anyone's advice, you've patently given it a lot of thought and considered it from all angles. It's actually quite patronising for Blonde to imply you would break off your relationship on someone else's say so. Anyone who posts here is clearly looking for advice, whether they take it is their own decision so accusing Anyfucker of breaking up relationships is unfair to her and insulting to the posters you're implying aren't capable of making their own decisions Blonde. Bad form in my book.

AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 23:31

thanks, Fern

blonde has a bit of a campaign going across MN right now

hopefully not gaining too may recruits Smile

AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 23:31

*many

BlondeOnATreadmill · 06/02/2016 23:44

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