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Can really incredible sex make you think you're in love?

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brownpillow · 05/02/2016 18:01

I have a new boyfriend and I don't even think he is a very nicer person. I thought he was at first, really thought he was a great person, but a few things have come to light since I have known him that would definitely have put me right off.

Although the sex is absolutely out of this world. The kissing feels amazing, as does the cuddles and we have great talks.

I am wondering how much the phsyical side of things being so incredible would slant my viewpoint on him?

Can really, really good sex and someone's body looking /feeling / smelling right in a way you find irresistable really make you view them in a better light than you should?

I feel unsatisfied in the relationship but hang on because I sense potential but wonder how much of that is just a fantasy in my mind.

It's not "love" is it, when you feel so happy and addicted to someone like that?

I sort of both hate him and crave him, and no, he's not gorgeous or anything.

OP posts:
brownpillow · 05/02/2016 21:56

That thread, I read one page and sounds a bit like him.

It's as if he gives just enough atention to keep me from leavign but not enough to make me feel secure. I feel like he's a bit fucked in the head but then he sort of plays the little boy lost who needs me and while I believe it at times as soon as I don't see him for a week I feel angry.

Well he told me his first big ex left him because she said he didn't communicate / was conflict avoidant - and he IS. He said he left his second ex because she wasn't funny enough, but what struck me about that was that he told me she had an abortion but he didn't go with her becuse he had a course that day Confused

No matter what he is talking aout or what is the conversation or situation he is very sweet and sort of pathetic in his neediness but it is completely all about him. Even when he pisses me off and he apologises, the apology is all about him.

If he was brash, loud confident and more obvious about it I'd probably think he was a completely selfish cock but he plays it off in a way with his "I am so insecure, women always leave me, please love me" act and what's lacking is basic concern for other people.

Making plans late. Not being considerate of my life and what might make me happy. He does things that make me happy, yes, but only when it happens to be what he wants to do.

Example: he is mega busy at work (doing his masters) and I don't hear from him for a week. If I call him, he's standoffish and clear he wants space.

If I am mega busy at work and he wants to see me, he is asking if he can bring over a takeaway, help me with me work and even asking if he can just wait in bed for me.

It's hard to describe it accurately but despite him acting all moony over me at times, he is just selfish. I feel like he doesn't properly listen to me or remember things about me and then at the same time he is all over me. It's hard to put into words!!!

I feel like a mistress rather than a girlfriend? Maybe that is the best way to word it.

I am not into amazing sex if it has no potential, that bores me, but it has been more than amazing sex. We have so much fun, get on so well, the sex, kissing, affection is amazing but it's just....well...that he's so selfish, lacks empathy?

I think it's already gone well past me not having feelings because I am fantasising about our wedding Confused at the same time thinking he might be a cock. Which is why I was asking about the sex / chemisty thing.

I have ben in love twice before and both times I felt the man in question was absolutely a wonderful man with no bad character, totally trutworthy, respected them as great men...does that make sense?

this one feels like a man-child

Yet, God, he turns me on an excites me.

OP posts:
brownpillow · 05/02/2016 21:59

He has said that no one else has ever thought sex with him was amazing, so I suppose I have been a dick and thought all this "can't keep our hands off each other" means something and that we are "special" and I have been blinded by "love" or the impression of it!

It's just when we have sex it feels like drifting off to nirvana or something. Hard to not feel deeply joined to someone like that.

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AnyFucker · 05/02/2016 22:06

Never mind him

Do you want to end up like the op of that thread, living some sort of half life in thrall to a man

just a man

not a God, not some Higher Being

there are other men and I absolutely do not accept that they are any way inferior to him

AnyFucker · 05/02/2016 22:08

look love, a cock is just a piece of flesh

his isn't studded with diamonds

another cock would do the job just as well

Hissy · 05/02/2016 22:26

Not strictly true AF... In still trying to forget the guy I went out with last year, among in every sense. Literally out of this world, but tbh there were signs of his judgementalism, sniffy about stuff I had/did.

He dumped me. Badly. 3 times and it hurt like nothing else ever did. A year on I'm nearly there, don't think of him literally every day, and I do feel I'm letting go.

Please op, just let this one go. You know he's not right.

Hissy · 05/02/2016 22:27

I think what others make us feel is what we need to learn to feel about ourselves sometimes.

Hissy · 05/02/2016 22:28

But then again, wtaf do I know... Grin

AnyFucker · 05/02/2016 22:28

well, some blokes waste the cock

but not many

what I am saying is...if you think this guy is your only soulmate you are very wrong

Hissy · 05/02/2016 22:45

Ultimately if it was right, it would be right..

Love is supposed to be easy/fun/good....

Destinysdaughter · 06/02/2016 00:22

'cockstruck', is that actually a word? If not, it should be!

And yes, great sex can blind you to the reality of a man. His actions are much more meaningful than his words or how great he is in bed. He doesn't sound like he will ever be able to make you happy. Guess you will see this in time when you're truly miserable, you just haven't got there yet. You will...

stillaspooninthecup · 06/02/2016 00:40

OP If you are in the Midlands, he sounds identical to the man I wasted 4 years on. Sex was mindblowing but in reality I became his puppet and let myself keep holding on thinking I could turn it into a proper relationship.

I can definitely relate to the having lots of female friends, blowing hot and cold, only calling/coming around on his terms, the half truths, the selfishness, the little boy lost act etc.

Sorry to say that mine ended badly with me being heartbroken when he decided to move onto one of his other lady friends as I had started to put my foot down about his behaviour.

I can only suggest that you take the sex out of the equasion and look at his actions and not his words. Mine could sweet-talk his way into my bed so easily at first and it wasn't until I looked back at it later did I realise that this was because he was an expert at it and had obviously using his bull**t on lots of women.

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stillaspooninthecup · 06/02/2016 01:29

Fern I can certainly identify with you about the feelings coming back when I think of him. Being single for over 2 years now, it did enter my mind to contact him again recently but luckily threw that idea back in its box very quickly.

Still hoping to find a decent man in the Midlands though :)

SoThatHappened · 06/02/2016 01:33

Spoon do you know if he is single?

Sweetsweetjane · 06/02/2016 10:40

I was having 'incredible sex' with someone last year. V complicated, I wanted to be single but he was v persuasive, I wanted fwb but he wouldn't let me alone, I spent much of the time having to reassert and reassemble my boundaries. I have health problems and had a lot of other stuff going on. He tried to make himself indispensable.

I realised he lied. A lot. About everything, so although he wasn't 'nasty' , he was a manipulative fucker.
If I'd known the truth about a lot of stuff I'd never have got involved and he knew that.

I carried on seeing him for much longer than I should have because of Le sex, but eventually too much about him grated and I couldn't deceive myself anymore.
I wrote a thread on here where everyone told me to run for the hills!

I ended it. He wouldn't leave me alone, it's been months now and he carried on harassing me, even so far as following me and approaching me when out with my kids and turning up on the doorstep at all hours, again, often when my little kids were around, appearing on days when I should have been at work so he must have been watching me.

He wouldn't take no for an answer so I ended up calling the police.
I am so ashamed that it had come to this. A single mum with small kids having the police come round, just because I wanted lots of good sex and help around the house.

moonfacebaby · 06/02/2016 11:12

I had one like this for 2.5 years - not quite as bad, but most things were on his terms. Incapable of commitment. Flaky. With everyone in his life, not just me. Sex was bloody amazing.

It made me so anxious.

I've since gone on to meet my current boyfriend & boy, the difference has just further highlighted how the ex was just no good for me. This one is consistent, keen, positive, reliable & not remotely "complicated". He's not perfect, but he's really lovely. Makes me feel so safe & secure.

Oh & the sex is amazing Grin......so you can find a really nice bloke & have amazing sex.

I'd bin him & move on - he'll only get worse...

IrishDad79 · 06/02/2016 11:53

So many women DO love the bad boy, don't they?! It's called "limerance" now, apparently.

AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 17:57

you sound rather put out about that, IrishDad

dejarderoncar · 06/02/2016 19:55

So glad to be gay . And I know women can be shits, but have come acrosss who behave as cruelly , selfishly, on such a scale, or with such regularity that I read concerning men all the time on MN . Across the board, not just in relationships.

Sex can be mindblowing too. Q. what do lesbians call a 3 hour sex session? A. A quickie.

good night

dejarderoncar · 06/02/2016 19:55

'come across few'

1944dadhelp · 06/02/2016 20:14

Not read the whole post, sorry.. but although I love my dh to pieces I'd say there is zero chemistry in our sex life, it's something I tolerate.

SirisSister · 06/02/2016 20:29

AnyFucker Fri 05-Feb-16 20:13:30
don't end up like this lady
she is very, very unhappy

What Any Fucker said. I am this lady. this is my thread.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2562786-Breaking-the-mental-connection-between?pg=1

your sexual chemistryset up sounds like mine. when I met him I didn't even fancy him. I wish I'd walked away.If you can I'd strongly advise you to. I am very very unhappy. the chemical draw is a big part of it. I wish I'd nevergot involved. for me, It's like a crack addict wishing they'd never taken drugs. it's a futile wish. walk... hell run Away if you can. I have no self esteem and feel depressed and destroyed. it's not worth it.

lunar1 · 06/02/2016 20:30

Great chemistry can make you stupid! I speak from first hand experience. Mine was the best, without question in bed but a complete prat. I convinced myself several times I loved him, without question he would have cheated on me if it had carried on.

AnyFucker · 06/02/2016 20:31

Siri, I am glad you are not offended that I used you as the bad outcome example Thanks