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How do you get through finding out your whole life wasn't what you thought it was?

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 20/12/2015 04:01

How do you lay this stuff to rest?

Over the last 5yrs I have had my life's story rewritten again and again as I uncover unpleasant 'truths' that change what I thought happened, what I thought was my life, my sisters life, my family bonds, all not true.

And I'm not seeking out those truths, or trying to delve back into the past looking for answers. It's all raked up again and again because me and DS are still paying the price for it all, and our lives literally (actually literally) depend on it.

And my sister and fathers lives did depend on it, except they're dead.

I tried all evening to write a summary and it's too hard.

Basically, found out my parents always knew about the possibility of a genetic condition being passed down. They knew before they got married.

How can someone do this? Almost five decades of lies. The very foundations of my own life and the terrible tragedies that have hit our family again and again, reeling from the shock as a genetic condition slowly reeks havoc on the people I love... The lie was that anyone else was shocked and ignorant about what was happening.

Feel like the whole thing is some sick joke, and I'm the punch line.

How can parents endanger the lives of their children (sister died, I'm now severely disabled), one of themselves (dad died), and their grand child (DS may have it too)?

My mother in particular has behaved so very badly over the years, my dad was lovely though with his own problems, but kind and gentle and caring. Not very responsible though or he'd have intervened as my mother was a horrible horrible person, emotionally abusive we'd ca it these days. I can sort of see my mother doing this more than my dad, a stretch even for her, but she does have form for being breath takingly selfish and cruel. But even so, this means she was shouting and screaming that we were making it up to get attention/ doing it to upset her, how it was my fault that the family was poor/ she didn't work/ dads job was always insecure...all the time KNOWING what was happening.

She watched and bitched as her favorite daughter went through all kinds of hell, she watched her die with no diagnosis, no treatment, just terror of knowing there's something terribly wrong and no one will help.

How? I don't understand. She loved my sister so much, and my parents fell apart when she died.

And then to watch me getting iller and iller, not knowing what was happening, not knowing where to turn. Then having a grandchild, without ever thinking to tell your daughter the risk for him.

Then dad dying, they didnt tell the docs any family history, even though he was dying of what people with my condition die of. My mother behaved unforgivably at this time, cruelly and shockingly, which I thought was to hurt me (which it was but with a double whammy of being able to stop me being able to tell the hospital the family history.

I can't even start to understand how my dad went along with this?

It's like living in a snow globe and every so often someone comes along and gives it a shake, and my world turns upside down and resettles into a completely different shape.

What do I do with this? I don't know how to think or feel...

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RiceCrispieTreats · 20/12/2015 17:58

How can someone do this?

Human frailty.
For reasons which are her own, she was not able to face reality, or to do the right thing.

She must have been very confused and unhappy deep down in order to behave like this, and ended up handing trauma down to the next generation.

I'm sorry that you are now left with the consequences of her choices. I hope that you have good support for yourself in place (including therapy if you think you would benefit from it).

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MoominPie22 · 20/12/2015 19:00

Oh dear Miscellaneous you're going through this performance of a Xmas ritual and keeping her in your life for the sake of your son? Does she show him kindness and love? If so then she really does have a split personality and can turn the madness on and off at will!

How old was your sister when she passed? It really is heartbreaking to hear that, despite both your sister's and your own significant health struggles and challenges ( which she obv knew about full-well ) all she saw fit to do was scream and shout saying YOU were ruining HER life? Oh the irony Sad

You both must have suffered unbearably and any parent would rather cut off their arm than see their child suffer so. And yet she blamed you??? Absolutely unbelievable!

Not meaning to bang on but you should treat her like the cancer she is and cut HER from your life. You come across as a truly lovely, kind and sensitive, considerate person and she does not deserve to have you as her daughter!

OnceAMeerNotAlwaysAMeer · 20/12/2015 20:06

misc your mother is beyond words.

Do, please, walk away from her now.

Nothing, nothing can be worth this blight on your already-incredibly-traumatized life. She does not know the meaning of love. You are better off alone - much better off.

On a practical note, can your son be tested?

Hissy · 20/12/2015 20:23

Oh misc :( this really is unforgivable. She is unspeakably cruel, and anyone who enabled her is too.

Having had a ds who had a horrific accident a couple of years ago, the sight of our children suffering is excruciating- well to people who have a heart, clearly.

There are some terrible beings who thrive on the suffering of others, they need to be kept far from us and our children.

There are no words to make people like these normal, there is no point in trying to work them out. We'll never understand them, and tbh, that's a good thing.

I'm so sorry for all that you've been put through, and what you have to face. I hope now the truth you hold can be put to good use in good time.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/12/2015 20:32

going to a and e and doctors being totally unaware of whats going on.....not buying it

You'd be surprised ... medicine can be very "compartmentalised" sometimes, and given that OP has said the condition is unusual I can quite believe that a doctor could miss something which wasn't in their area of expertise. Same with the PM; while they'd know what led to her actual passing, they might not have found all of the issues which contributed to it

MiscellaneousAssortment · 20/12/2015 20:45

I can't really stop her coming this year, I think I have to survive this season and then try and work out what I feel and think about all this next year, and what it means.

Stop getting swept along and make some upsetting decisions I guess. I don't want to, I don't want to engage with any of this, I don't want to be living this story and much prefer a fantasy 'everything's fine and if it isn't it's your fault' existence. But I'm not my parents and I've never been able to understand what's happened and what went on, even living through it it was utterly contradictory and I was always misstepping and getting it wrong :(

I wouldn't 'have it out' with my mother, as it wouldn't be worth the pain and hurt.

I'd never get an answer out of her.
And it left me feeling worse. I found that out when I 'broke' at her awfulness about this time last year.

And she'd use it to firm up her reality of me being a hideous human being and her being a sad poor victim. She's certainly taken to that role like a duck to water. I've been hearing bits and bobs from people in the village (I try not to, it upsets me), and it breaks my heart to hear I'm still the scapegoat, apparently I never phone, she's so terribly worried about me and can't get through, she's too poor to afford a phone blah blah. So some poor sap went and bought her a mobile phone - hideous cringe, and it will join the other 2 mobile phones gathering dust in their boxes, that I've bought her in the past.

Anyway. I guess I'm stuck feeling totally head fucked by it all and desperately trying to do what's right for DS and me and not get sucked into some family rabbit hole.

God this is a mess :(

OP posts:
Creampastry · 21/12/2015 06:37

Why the hell do you keep in contact with this awful person who doesn't act like a mother?

rainbowstardrops · 21/12/2015 07:29

Does your mother know that you now know?
I'm sorry but I'd have to sit her down and get some answers. If she refused then she'd be on her own.

SSargassoSea · 21/12/2015 08:09

Write everything down. By hand if poss, write and write and write. It will definitley help you. WRite it and keep it (for the time being at least). It stops stuff going round and round in your head.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/12/2015 09:47

Miscellaneous if as you say confronting your mother would upset you further you mustn't even consider it; you've got more than enough to cope with

How about support from other family members - is there much help in that direction? The aunt sounds a winner if she can get over her issues around having told you; after all it's hardly her fault. As I say, I really do hope you have a support network as you process this ...

OnceAMeerNotAlwaysAMeer · 21/12/2015 10:25

And she'd use it to firm up her reality of me being a hideous human being and her being a sad poor victim

after letting your sister die in pain and puzzlement?

Fuck that in spades. Stand up and tell the truth. It's time you stopped being this woman's victim. TELL your neighbours what's going on.

if you can, misc, find your anger and your mama bear becuase your son seriously needs protecting.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 21/12/2015 16:29

Yes I do need to get angry don't I? I'm more heart broken than raging at the moment.

Writing it down for this thread has at least made me see how BIG this is. Not something that could happen by accident or isolated to a one off moment in time or consequence. I think that's what's I'm struggling with, it throws everything into a whole other perspective and reality.

I can sort of see how it might have happened though, once you've lied once, it gets progressively harder to admit and face the consequences / reactions of those around you.

But, ugh, I don't know how I will look her in the eyes.

Clearly I can't carry on like this, but I don't think I'm capable of making any decisions about her. I've got other things to worry about, like me and DS.

To answer a question from lots of people, DS has not been seen by docs yet, but will be.

Because of the gaps in family history (pm are not very informative actually need more to understand what's going on genetically), my diagnosis was a best guess vs definitive. Which is one of the shocking impact of the lying. So I was trundling along with my main consultant & a whole variety of others for specific body parts, but from September it's all been panic stations as it's taken a while for the info to go through the system, but now my dads dead too the medical side has suddenly ramped up massively. As he's a direct family member more than a sister so it changes things somewhat :(

Wasn't seeing a cardiologist, someone else was monitoring, but it's all got very serious (and scary) now. I've just had a whole battery of heart/ circulatory system tests and loads more scheduled for straight after Christmas. The various specialists have said wait until they've got a better idea of me, and then test DS, idea being to minimise invasive procedures for DS.

I'm sorry I'm explaining badly

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/12/2015 17:57

You're not "explaining badly" at all, Miscellaneous, and anyway it wouldn't matter even if you were; I completely understand that now the alarm's sounded they'll want to look at everything

I imagine the investigations won't be helped by the gaps in family knowledge, but you can only work with what you've got and at least it sounds as if you're in capable hands now. Unfortunately, given her past deceit, it's hard to imagine your mother sharing all the information you'll need - having been caught out, so to speak, is it likely she'll downplay the condition's effects on your sister and dad to avoid responsibility, or do you think there's any hope at all she'll come to her senses?

MiscellaneousAssortment · 22/12/2015 11:12

Thanks, it's hard to remember to be a bit kind to yourself when stuck in some horrible tangle / dawning realization.

Not a hope of my mother ever giving useful information or any acknowledgement of this. She's had a lifetime of lying, denial and selfishness. Her first instinct will be to lie, accuse, blame or wail 'how can you be so hard'. 'Hard' is her favorite adjective to describe me being anything but understanding and nice. I have been known to say 'well you taught me to be that, dear mother'. But in recent years haven't given her the satisfaction of engaging with her.

She's had a few decades to hone her lack of responsibility for her actions, and logic, truth or rationality don't mean a thing to her.

Oh or another favorite 'I'll write you a letter when I'm dead and you'll HAVE to read it, and then you'll feel guilty and it will be Too Late'

And it's usually followed by the classic "I've done so much for you and protected you from terrible things (etc etc ominous warnings and veiled threats), because I couldn't bear to see you unhappy (vom, she loved making me unhappy - as the family scapegoat that was my place in life!)".

That sounds rather different now I know what I know now. I wonder if she meant to 'out' my father for not disclosing he knew about the genetic condition... But then, how would she make herself sound good in doing that, as she's equally responsible. And her behavior was already shocking, and just makes it even worse than the depths I thought she'd stooped to...

I thought it meant more stories of how terrible my father was, how he got into debt and how he almost left for someone else years ago... All of which I know anyway, but she's deluded herself into a starring role of maternal concern and protection. And is obsessed by destroying my love for my father, she's been ranting about it ever since I can remember. Bleugh. All these lies make me feel sick.

... She tried to say this shite last year to justify some completely unrelated cruelty, and ignored my reply completely, it was like I hadn't spoken. I suppose it's not about me replying, it's all about her, all the time... Btw my reply was 'I'm not interested in your self justification and I won't be opening any letter that as been written to hurt me'

She decided to tell me horrible lies when my dad was in hospital last year (when the prognosis of recovery was good... As they didn't know about the pre-existing condition that killed him a couple of weeks later). This was when I realized that it hurt me to engage with her and had no positive effect whatsoever.

She would say things that actually can't be true, and when caught out just fought back with nastiness and accusations, and wasn't pin down -able.

Truth and reality don't matter, just the force of her will, and if she batters people enough, or manipulates and lies enough, she forces the world to be as she has decreed Xmas Sad

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/12/2015 12:47

Yes, I was afraid that might be the case Sad Oddly enough, the thing which stand out for me in all he horror is that if anything's said she'll behave "as if you hadn't spoken" ... believe me I've experienced that so often when they pursue the narrative they've obviously decided on

Without doubt you're doing the right thing in avoiding further unpleasantness with her; there seems simply no point in distressing yourself further. I only hope the medics are able to get some sort of a handle on all this and offer you the proper support you need Flowers

Hissy · 22/12/2015 13:02

Tell her you'll use the letter to light the furnace she gets cremated in, so go ahead, leave nothing out, cos it'll go up with her.

Well, when I say "go up", we all know she's going downstairs for what she's done to you and your entire family.

Id be tempted to say also that her lies will be writ large on a plaque, for the world to see how despicable she is,

MiscellaneousAssortment · 24/12/2015 02:15

Well quite :)

And less smiley ness...
Day 1 of The Visit

Tally so far:
Hours spent with her 1
Number of times I've snapped and been dismissive or rude: 3

So that makes a rather unimpressive once every 20 minutes.

I'd like to call it me rising to the bait, but that's not strictly true, I know she didn't mean to be rude/ needle me/ upset me, and I can see she's upset with my 'reasonless meanness'. But I guess that's the problem that keeps me confused. she is/ makes herself oblivious to the decades of hurt and genuinely thinks I'm horrible to her completely out of the blue.

Oh and yes, I may have accidentally arranged an evening out for me & DS on our own, so kind of cheating calling it day 1

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We3KingyOfOblomovAre · 24/12/2015 02:48

Good grief. This woman is coming to yours for Christmas? Why? Just, why?

Ringsender2 · 24/12/2015 03:08

Gosh Misc, i don't even have words to convey my thought on how awful your situation is/ has been. I haven't read yr other thread. I hope this visit passes quickly and you get nuggets if joy here and there with your DS

Out2pasture · 24/12/2015 03:22

I didn't want to read and run, positive thoughts for you and your son.
would your mom be of any use at helping you become the medical detective you need to become? could she provide you with more information as to a family tree; facts such as her mother's name, place of birth etc.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 24/12/2015 11:24

"Good grief. This woman is coming to yours for Christmas? Why? Just, why?"

Oblomov because she has no where else to go.

Actually, no, the reason is because I am an idiot!

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Hissy · 24/12/2015 12:21

Get tomorrow out of the way and get her taken back home on Boxing Day morning. say whatever you have to

NettleTea · 24/12/2015 12:28

I am so sorry that this is happening to you - I think I know what the condition is, because as part of my son's assessment for aspergers the psychologist asked me to get a GP referral to the relevant dept for something he had noticed, but was only, in a related co-morbidity relevant to the ASD. I wont go into that here though.
Strangely my mother has suffered symptoms for many years which could also suggest the same thing, but just dismissed it totally out of hand and refuses to discuss it or consider following it up.
My daughter has cystic fibrosis, which again is genetic, but now thankfully screened for at birth. Again nobody in the family has bothered to have themselves screened, both my sister and my daughter's father have had children which although not actually having the disease, may quite well be carriers, but its just not mentioned, not followed up.
I dont understand it, cannot fathom why you wouldnt want to know, especially when the diseases in question have such an impact.

NettleTea · 24/12/2015 12:30

Have you asked your mother outright, asked her how she denied knowledge when you all got ill? Why, when there was help out there, she witheld the facts from the doctors?
She can blather about not wanting to worry you regarding the info when you were children, but I cannot see what reason she could come up with regarding witholding from medical staff

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