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Incest porn, your opinions? [Trigger warning added by MNHQ]

103 replies

Advicelost · 08/11/2015 09:29

This exactly.

I've had past relationships where the partner watched porn, not too often and as part of a healthy sexual relationship.

Now though I'm in a long term relationship with a man who admitted 16 months in to it that he loved incest porn: he watches mum son porn a lot, I have seen. He also wants to role play "with words only", such as pretending he is my father
I am disgusted by this and totally at my wits end.
He assures me it's just during sex: so wouldn't affect our own kids, but really it's just something I'm so confused by.

Do I tell/ask him that it stop forever as it repulses me. Or do I end the relationship. Our relationship has many other issues but I want this one to be discussed first.

Opinions please. Thank you.

(I am in my late twenties, no kids)

OP posts:
ALaughAMinute · 08/11/2015 13:17

How is it not relevant that the adults are pretending to be CHILDREN?

Anyone watching with kind of crap is a potential paedophile in my opinion.

ALaughAMinute · 08/11/2015 13:18

*this kind of crap

timelytess · 08/11/2015 13:22

In the eighties, when I was at university, I remember reading that incest was becoming increasingly socially acceptable. I haven't see much of that attitude in the real world.

OP, ditch him, because you feel bad about it and because if you had children, you wouldn't feel you could trust him with them.

Personally, I don't see it a being any different from the women who want to call their partners 'Daddy'. They (presumably) aren't thinking of their own fathers at the time. Dara O'Briain has sometimes used similar ideas in comedy - he tells a story about becoming a parent and how someone might be uncomfortable saying 'Be a good girl for Daddy' in the parental role if they'd used it in the bedroom.

I think MNers are getting very wound about not very much. A fantasy is just a game to get you off. 'Family' roles are authority roles and some people find that a turn on. Actual incest is different, its serious and abusive. I suppose the risk comes from the fact that some people indulging in the fantasy might want to act it out in real life.

timelytess · 08/11/2015 13:24

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Lightbulbon · 08/11/2015 13:27

Phone the police!

MrRobot · 08/11/2015 13:29

The police will do fuck all Hmm

Oysterbabe · 08/11/2015 13:30

What will she be reporting him to the police for exactly?

fastdaytears · 08/11/2015 13:31

ALaugh

How is it not relevant that the adults are pretending to be CHILDREN

That would be hugely relevant of course but that's not what incest porn is. If anyone was pretending to be underage that would be totally different. Everyone in incest porn is an adult and acting an adult role. That's every definition I've ever seen.

fastdaytears · 08/11/2015 13:34

This is interesting (ish) about the dynamics involved and why some people would find it hot. www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a39382/whats-up-with-the-rise-of-incest-porn/

My advice remains the same though. It makes you feel uncomfortable so ditch.

Pipestheghost · 08/11/2015 13:37

Goodness me, I hope you're ok op. Honestly if DP showed an interest in this weirdness I'd have ran mile, immediately.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 08/11/2015 14:11

I don't know. Me and all my mates read Flowers in the Attic. I don't think any of us had sex with our brothers. Similarly lots of people like Game of Thrones. Maybe there is a drift to incest becoming more acceptable.

How nasty.

UptownFunk00 · 08/11/2015 15:07

Some people on here are pretty hysterical.

Adult based roleplay with obvious adult participants? What harm is it doing if someone wants to view it.

Now I wouldn't necessarily enjoy it or Joe Bloggs, but it doesn't mean someone else doesn't have the right to indulge.

The problem is here is he is trying to enforce it on you OP which is wrong. If you aren't interested, you aren't interested and that should be that.

If there are other problems in the relationship it just shows how incompatible you are and how it's probably a wake up call and a lucky escape for you.

Followyourart · 08/11/2015 16:15

Maybe I'm over sensitive but I think it's more the "concept" of siblings/relatives having sex that makes me feel sickly... It's obvious they're adults and we'd like to hope they're genuinely not related but the idea is weird. And I think it's weird that it's seeping into TV shows like game of thrones ect..
Someone mentioned the fantasy element and I personally can't get my head around that, I have fantasies about travelling the world etc, and I want to fulfil these fantasies, otherwise why would I fantasise about them, it always gets me when the porn user gives this argument. Do we not all want to fulfil our fantasies? What's the point in having a fantasy if you can't ever fulfil it - wouldn't that be a boring fantasy??

pocketsaviour · 08/11/2015 16:19

Though it is actually illegal to shag your step daughter or son isn't it? Or is it just illegal to marry them?

No, it's not illegal to either have sex or marry them, as long as you're both over the age of consent. And of course to marry, you'd need to be divorced, which means they would no longer be your step-child/parent anyway.

It's still a fucking gross idea AFAIC though.

pocketsaviour · 08/11/2015 16:21

What's the point in having a fantasy if you can't ever fulfil it - wouldn't that be a boring fantasy??

Tell that to all the people who fantasize about having sex with Jonny Depp/Brad Pitt/any other hot celebrity...

fastdaytears · 08/11/2015 16:21

And of course to marry, you'd need to be divorced, which means they would no longer be your step-child/parent anyway

Good point! I hadn't thought that through had I? What a horrible thought anyway.

Followyourart · 08/11/2015 16:27

I know, pocket I think it's me that's the weird one though as I genuinely don't fantasise about hot celebs, it's too far removed from reality to be exciting. Although I accept I'm probably different from most of the population. I didn't grow up with porn either so maybe I got used to my fantasies being grounded in reality. Maybe some people exist in a fantasy world though, idk.. I would really struggle to feel attracted to this guy to be honest..

jackanora · 08/11/2015 16:50

Porn is a funny thing. If you went a had a look at the main categories (clearly chosen for being the most popular) you'll find the obvious ones, like threesomes, lesbians and big boobs.

Then you find the set I find pretty weird.

Pissing on people
Gang sex
Fake incest porn
Fake rape porn
Cuckolding
Affair porn
Pooping on people
Barely legal
The elderly

I think the vast majority of people find the majority of it pretty disgusting and I have to say for me personally I find the "barely legal" genre about as disgusting as the fake incest and can't think why someone would want to wank over someone who was almost a child; but then I also fail to understand bondage and a lot of otehr things that appear to turn people on.

I'd argue that provided no one is harmed, I'm not offended by people's fetishes but if a partner had one that disgusted me it would be offputting. Whether it;s a dealbreaker or not depends on the depth of the fetish.

I had a partner years ago obsessed with "black on blonde" :O and then Asians. He was a knob, but the point is that he had these fantasies but they were pretty mild and he didn;t go on about them so it was all right and didn't affect me. If he'd been wanting to see me with a black man or Asia and had banged on about it then it would have been diferrent.

I stress I am very open minded and not everyone is, but sex should be something that turns you both on and nothing he says or does should be gross for you.

There really is nowt so queer as folk and all these fetishes and their popularity remainds a mystery to me! Personally my fantasies sxually extend about as far as some suspenders and a bottle of wine!

UptownFunk00 · 08/11/2015 17:09

I understand follow but a lot of people have threesome fantasies and in te past I've found it exciting but if it were ever offered to me I can honestly say I'd say no - I don't want to share my partner or my partner to share me. I think it's the 'naughty' aspect to a lot of things more than actually wanting to do that thing, if that makes sense.

UptownFunk00 · 08/11/2015 17:36

My opinion is the exactly the same as jackanora really.

My partner might say like big butts for example which is OK by me but not something I'm particularly excited about but as long as he didn't go on about it then it wouldn't cause me any trouble.

Wearingpeppashat · 08/11/2015 17:41

I thought I'd posted but its not showing- basically OP I think you need to leave him.
We're discussing a man who is turned on by parent/child sex the poster's comparing that to other fetishes is really bizarre. This is not normal, he sounds sick.
If there's any indication there is actual children involved in this footage- you need to contact the police.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 08/11/2015 17:45

pocket

It would only be legal to marry an ex step parent/child if they were not step parent/child at any time when they were under 18.

So you could marry your mums ex if you were 19 when your mum and him cohabited but not if you were 17

www.mylawyer.co.uk/the-law-on-getting-married-a-A76051D76350/

MissApple · 08/11/2015 18:04

If someone tells you who they are, take notice and believe them. Some men are past help, run and dont look back

Im0gen · 08/11/2015 19:32

In the UK it's illegal to marry your step child unless you were never in a parental relationship with them ( lived in the same house while they were under 18 ) and you have to be over 21

But I'm not sure if that relevant to the OP. She's said she is disgusted by this , as many or even most people would be . They not married and have no kids . Why wouldnt she leave ?

Mousqueton · 08/11/2015 22:21

I read this as "insect porn" and was wondering wtf... Grin