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Incest porn, your opinions? [Trigger warning added by MNHQ]

103 replies

Advicelost · 08/11/2015 09:29

This exactly.

I've had past relationships where the partner watched porn, not too often and as part of a healthy sexual relationship.

Now though I'm in a long term relationship with a man who admitted 16 months in to it that he loved incest porn: he watches mum son porn a lot, I have seen. He also wants to role play "with words only", such as pretending he is my father
I am disgusted by this and totally at my wits end.
He assures me it's just during sex: so wouldn't affect our own kids, but really it's just something I'm so confused by.

Do I tell/ask him that it stop forever as it repulses me. Or do I end the relationship. Our relationship has many other issues but I want this one to be discussed first.

Opinions please. Thank you.

(I am in my late twenties, no kids)

OP posts:
CuntryLiving · 08/11/2015 10:11

Do not have kids with this man. Leave, run for the hills. No idea why you'd even have to ask.

Terrifiedandregretful · 08/11/2015 10:11

I was also shocked by seeing a whole section of incest porn on Literotica. Get out now OP. Flowers

StealthPolarBear · 08/11/2015 10:13

Does this incest port involve children?

Dontyouopenthattrapdoor · 08/11/2015 10:17

OP don't cry. It's going to be ok. He's come into your life at a low point, your boundaries and usual standards have been lowered and vulnerable and tmits taken you longer than it would normally to value yourself enough to question this. That's ok. The important part is that you have now.

End it with him, and feel good about yourself for being strong enough to do that. Don't get this deleted. Keep posting here for support as you leave and start afresh.

You deserve better x

TheNumberfaker · 08/11/2015 10:17

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SequinJacket · 08/11/2015 10:18

I felt some kind of way reading this, you shouldn't need to ask people whether you should stay with him or not, what he is watching is not right please get rid of him!

lunar1 · 08/11/2015 10:22

You are making the right decision, you couldn't have children with this man. It's fine to ask the question though. Sometimes you can be so close to a situation it completely clouds what should be an obvious choice to the rest of the world. You don't need to delete the thread.

Crazybaglady · 08/11/2015 10:25

To me, it sounds like your bf has watched soooo much porn that he is starting to need more and more extreme videos to get his kicks. Unless he sorts that out its just going to escalate.

If you want to remain with him, he needs to stop watching porn and re learn what is normal to get off on.

If he's not willing to stop watching porn and start appreciating a normal sexual relationship then I don't think you should remain with him.

Father88883 · 08/11/2015 10:31

Handle this man very carefully. Fetish cover a wide spectrum of sexuality. From being tited up to doing stuff with squids (popular in Japan i think). Often people find things that are taboo arousing. Now I assume what you are talking about is some kind of incest based adult role play. Any thing other then difinatley leave him. If his kink is some sort of adult role play then it's up to you if you want any part in it or not. It is normal for adults to have a wide range of kinks and fantisy. Most main stream porn producers in the US are producing adult incest role play movies as they are amongst the top selling titles. You need to work if it's harmless adult fantisy with adults or something more sinister.

Joysmum · 08/11/2015 10:33

FFS people have some compassion and empathy for the OP.

We see on MN all the time were women don't know for sure if they've been raped or are in an abussive relationship.

Our partners have had us so fucked up in the head that we have been conditioned never to trust ourselves.

So yes, I CAN believe the OP needed to ask and I'm thankful her abuse hasn't gone that far that she has no doubts and so didn't ask the question.

CoteDAzur · 08/11/2015 10:36

"we don't have children"

And I certainly hope that you (or any woman with two brain cells to rub together) will not have a child with a man who gets turned on by parents sexually abusing their children.

bettyberry · 08/11/2015 10:38

UterusUterusGhali I have seen whole swathes of 'incest porn' about fictional characters too. Supernatural being one TV series I can think of off the top of my head. It is becoming more normal but I am in two minds about it.

People exploring it with writing, I can't decide if its OK or not. I mean, people explore fantasy, crime, murder etc with their writing so would this be any different? again, I can't quite figure out where I stand on the writing side.

On film though. I'm pretty sure production of that kind of porn is illegal in the UK even if the actors are unrelated.

OP I would leave your partner if his sexual practices disgust you. He, however, hasn't broken a law by voicing a desire to want to role play this scenario so reporting to the police probably wont be helpful in this case. If he is watching a lot of porn that is affecting his normal relationships then he has the problem and will need help to fix that if he chooses. It is not your place to fix this.

For you though, leave him and get some help from someone. Even talking to a counsellor for a few sessions to help you come to terms with his desires not being about you and understand what is normal and what isn't within a relationship. I know you already do because you asked these question but voicing this in a safe space is really helpful esp when it comes to your self confidence. I suspect there is much more to his sexual needs that you haven't posted here and will benefit from talking about it in a safe space.

hollieberrie · 08/11/2015 10:39

Oh just typed a whole long reply to this and its got lost somehow, grrrr...

In a nutshell - i dated a man for 6 months who had a socks and shoes fetish. At the time i thought i was ok with it, but actually looking back i wasnt and i didnt really enjoy it. In my next relationship, sans any "special sexual interests", i was so much happier with the sex and enjoyed it a whole lot more.

Dont go along with it to please him. If youre not happy, get rid. And dont blame yourself. I've seen that fake incest porn before, its gross.. But its adults acting, no children as some people seem to think. These things are so mainstream and accessible now unfortunately.

SplatterMustard · 08/11/2015 10:40

Why on earth do you need to ask a bunch of random strangers what they think, nobody would say it was right or that they'd entertain continuing the relationship surely?!

juneybean · 08/11/2015 10:40

Not disimilar to the game of thrones brother and sister going at it

bettyberry · 08/11/2015 10:41

Most main stream porn producers in the US are producing adult incest role play movies as they are amongst the top selling titles. You need to work if it's harmless adult fantisy with adults or something more sinister

It is not HARMLESS adult fantasy if that fantasy is impacting on someone else and making them feel very uncomfortable and/or disgusted.

In the OPs case it is affecting her and her relationship. Far from harmless.

HexBramble · 08/11/2015 10:45

Lots of you are almost accepting of it providing that it's 'fictional' or popular, or am I mis-reading?

Where do we draw the line? We all know that fantasy spills into reality all too often.

Would you be willing to take the risk OP? I wouldn't.

Leave him fast. I bet you find you'll start thinking with a clear head once he's gone. Tough times ahead, but you have to leave him. Staying, with this knowledge, will make you a part of this sick fantasy.

Joysmum · 08/11/2015 10:47

Why on earth do you need to ask a bunch of random strangers what they think

Because people in abusive relationship are conditioned so they don't recognise it, we see it all the time in MN Hmm

How the fuck is this helping the OP by ridiculing or making her feel abnormal or thick or guilty for not realizing.

She's already felt so austricised and ashamed by the responses she's getting that she is asking for the thread to be deleted. Sad

RainbowBodyDouble · 08/11/2015 10:47

I'm no prude or the sort of person that thinks paedophiles are hiding in every bush.

I wouldn't be instantly jumping to LTB we all have our own buttons, it isn't that new and extreme (Oedipus was ages ago Smile)

Imo your own reaction is what I would act on.
It doesn't matter if he is in to a bit of kink or just testing the water with this for sinister reasons.

Your gut reaction is telling you something isn't right.
You don't feel right about him.
You shouldn't be feeling like this, he may or may not be a wrong un but he's wrong for you Flowers

SassyPasty · 08/11/2015 10:54

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Joysmum · 08/11/2015 10:57

Make your mind up, love

What the guck is going on with this thread Angry

Why are people blaming and attacking a victim.

Fucking disgusting.

ImperialBlether · 08/11/2015 10:58

Has anyone noticed there are a hell of a lot of incest stories on Amazon? If I search for free books on there, tons of that crap comes up. I don't know how it's legal on there, tbh. There's no way of filtering, either.

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/11/2015 11:05

It seems to me that this man is trying to groom the OP into accepting incest based role play and attempting to minimise it by saying it's "just words". Where does it stop? If the OP has children, she can't be sure he won't then try and include them? This is not normal, incest is horrific. OP, I hope you have the courage to leave, this must be awful for you Flowers

AnyoneButAndre · 08/11/2015 11:12

It really doesn't matter to the OP whether it's OK or not, whether it's dangerous or not, whether he'd be a safe father for your children.

The only thing the OP needs to consider is that his sexuality is dominated by a fetish that she finds repellent. Even if it were something unequivocally harmless like feet or cunnilingus, if she is turned off by it then that is an unsustainable sexual relationship and she needs to get out now because no good can come of it.

expatinscotland · 08/11/2015 11:17

Dump this person.