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Partner says he will abandon his daughter if we separate

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gingerfinn · 02/11/2015 21:09

My partner of ten years and I often talk about separating. Our DD just turned two. The main reason I haven't left him is because he says that if we separate, he will move overseas to pursue his career and not see his daughter again.

My father was largely absent. I don't want my DD to go through the same grief and low self esteem. It would break my heart to deny her a relationship with her father. I realise it's his choice whether or not he has a relationship with his child, but he's managed to put the weight of that decision onto my shoulders. DD adores him.

We have very little in common, no shared interests, and he hasn't put any effort into our relationship for a very, very long time. When he's not overseas working, all we do together is look after our DD, go out to lunch, and sit on the sofa in the evenings. His career is everything to him, he has no interests outside of his work.

He is also quite controlling and lately we are constantly arguing because he thinks our DD is spoilt because she has the odd tantrum. She's a toddler! I wonder how he will cope with her naturally assertive personality as she gets older and refuses to tow his line.

When we argue he says we are only together for her and we're living separate lives. It's always him that raises the idea of separating but he thinks it's up to me to decide. Also, we've decided to move to a different city next year to be closer to family, but he refuses to put any of his savings into buying our new family home. He can't explain why but denies it has anything to do with a lack of commitment to our family.

I'm posting this hoping to find out if anyone has been in a similar situation, or if someone can offer a fresh perspective. I keep going over things in my head and getting nowhere. I feel trapped.

OP posts:
Fissues · 03/11/2015 22:07

He's not all over the place. He's trying any tactic he can to maintain the status quo. He'll take any foothold he can and keep eroding your request for space Eg he asked for two weeks and when you agreed he immediately angrily asked for more.

Don't let him bully you Flowers

mix56 · 04/11/2015 07:43

I too sadly foresee he will not be gone in 2 weeks, he will linger on.
please do heed all the advise from acrossthepond above. If he starts being angry & wants to punish you he may empty the bank account for his new flat.
open a new account in your name today.
I'm sorry he has put all his failures in such a way that you want to hold him in your arms. But I really think it's water under the bridge. Too late to repair.
whether he stays or goes abroad, is not your problem, please tell him that is his decision & he doesn't need to use it as leverage any more

Anniegetyourgun · 04/11/2015 08:44

He's not a confused little boy inside. He was going for the sympathy vote and almost got it, but it sounds as though you're beyond that point already. It's a phase in which he presses all the buttons that used to work on you to try and get you back into the box. There are a few more phases to come and anger is guaranteed to be one of them. As others have said, there's no guarantee what form the anger will take so it is best to be prepared for a hasty flit just in case. There will also be pleading and probably a lot of promises, none of which will of course be fulfilled. And endless emotional blackmail. The sooner he gets off his arse and finds new accommodation the better, for your sanity if nothing else. Make no mistake, he may seem confused but he manages to hold down a good job and appears capable of buggering off to live overseas when it suits him. Finding himself a flat is really not a big deal for your average solvent adult.

mix56 · 04/11/2015 12:48

yes, its part of his immature, "oops, She's called my bluff" behaviour.
There will be sobbing & requests for another chance, for therapy, & recriminations & anger, & probably threats along the way.
....But just how long has he been menacing you with abandoning your DD ???
He may be depressed, but it's not your problem, it's his now

OutToGetYou · 04/11/2015 13:17

As you are not married, and he is threatening moving abroad, I think you need to move quickly to protect yourself financially. Move money from joint accounts (worry about the niceties later) before he does, for example.

If he moves abroad and cuts contact you'll have no hope of any maintenance. I know two women who get nothing because the ex has no income in this country, but is living the life of Riley.

So, you need to get what you can upfront. Get copies of as many bank statements as you can, payslips etc.

Good luck with it all!

CharlotteCollins · 04/11/2015 22:13

Do not listen to him. He will scroll through many disjoint ideas to find the one which you will respond to. Do not listen to him.

catbasilio · 04/11/2015 23:06

End it asap. I am with a similar tosser only that my kids are older. I struggle to fond the strength to end it but by now I am 100% convinced that this is the only way.

TheTigerIsOut · 05/11/2015 00:00

I don't want to scare you, but considering he is a bit unstable and has repeatedly said he would move abroad, it may be a good idea to have a look at Reunite website to find steps to prevent him taking DD out of the country without your consent (yeah, I know he says he would go and leave her behind but people can do some terrible things out of spite)

changename54 · 05/11/2015 09:56

Hope you are OK, OP, and safe.

Please make sure you have a fully-charged mobile, your car keys and some cash on your person at all times (not in your bag, actually in your pocket) in case you have to run for it. Yes, I know that sounds melodramatic, but better safe than sorry. People can do all kinds of unpredictable things when they are under stress, so don't assume your OH will act reasonably.

Go and put your DD's passport and birth certificate somewhere safe (e.g. at your parents') - ideally today, together with copies of any important paperwork.

Whose name is the house in? Is it a rental or owned? You might need legal advice on how to proceed if he refuses to leave.

The good thing is it sounds like you have been honest with your family in the past, so you will have their support.

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