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Partner says he will abandon his daughter if we separate

84 replies

gingerfinn · 02/11/2015 21:09

My partner of ten years and I often talk about separating. Our DD just turned two. The main reason I haven't left him is because he says that if we separate, he will move overseas to pursue his career and not see his daughter again.

My father was largely absent. I don't want my DD to go through the same grief and low self esteem. It would break my heart to deny her a relationship with her father. I realise it's his choice whether or not he has a relationship with his child, but he's managed to put the weight of that decision onto my shoulders. DD adores him.

We have very little in common, no shared interests, and he hasn't put any effort into our relationship for a very, very long time. When he's not overseas working, all we do together is look after our DD, go out to lunch, and sit on the sofa in the evenings. His career is everything to him, he has no interests outside of his work.

He is also quite controlling and lately we are constantly arguing because he thinks our DD is spoilt because she has the odd tantrum. She's a toddler! I wonder how he will cope with her naturally assertive personality as she gets older and refuses to tow his line.

When we argue he says we are only together for her and we're living separate lives. It's always him that raises the idea of separating but he thinks it's up to me to decide. Also, we've decided to move to a different city next year to be closer to family, but he refuses to put any of his savings into buying our new family home. He can't explain why but denies it has anything to do with a lack of commitment to our family.

I'm posting this hoping to find out if anyone has been in a similar situation, or if someone can offer a fresh perspective. I keep going over things in my head and getting nowhere. I feel trapped.

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timelytess · 02/11/2015 21:55

Honestly, let the bastard go.
Further, do it now.
He's never going to bring her happiness, because his attitude is selfish and uncaring.
Please let him go.

whatwherewhen · 02/11/2015 21:55

My so called 'father' did this and 20+ years later came grovelling back for a relationship, I didn't want one with him then and I don't want one now.

Don't be held to ransom by such a manipulative arsewipe, think of your life and your daughters, as he's only thinking of himself.

If he holds true to his word and severes his ties with her, she will in the future make up her own mind about the situation and see him for what he is.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 02/11/2015 21:58

She doesnt need a father who uses her as a tool for emotional blackmail. Tell him to fuck off and see who the loser is out of it. It wont be you or her.

queenofthepirates · 02/11/2015 21:58

You could stay together but sooner or later she'll find out that your DP is a ratbag. Now that really is damaging to the self esteem. I think you perhaps need to seek some help to leave this scrap of a man before he does more damage. None of this is normal or loving. You deserve better.

PS, My DD doesn't have her Dad around and if I say so myself, she is just fine. And rather marvellous.

lorelei9 · 02/11/2015 22:00

Ugh
He's not interested in being a parent
He should just go
It's not your fault, you aren't depriving her of a dad, that's his choice
Really sorry this is happening to you.

Pipestheghost · 02/11/2015 22:00

What a horrible piece of shit. Your dd needs people who love her unconditionally in her life.

TendonQueen · 02/11/2015 22:01

Anyone who coldly threatens to walk away from their own child like that doesn't deserve the child. She'll be better off without such an unloving father.

LikeASoulWithoutAMind · 02/11/2015 22:05

It's either an empty threat, which means he will stay in touch with dd, or a real one, in which case he'll be no great loss.

My thoughts exactly.

My friend's ex used to threaten her with all sorts if she left him, it meant she hung on for years longer than she should have. Eventually she did pluck up the courage to leave and guess what? He didn't follow a single one through.

CardinalPoint · 02/11/2015 22:07

Get him to put it into writing. Just in case he abandons her and your DD wants information about what happened when she is older.

BreakfastLunchPasta · 02/11/2015 22:09

I too reckon you'd both be better off without him.
He sounds very unsympathetic to your dd and her needs, so for her the sooner you break up the better; I also believe younger children adjust more easily and quickly to change (although I'm open to correction). My dd1's father and I broke up when she was 6 months old, and she didn't suffer in any way; but when we moved house when she was almost 5 she had night terrors.

Arfarfanarf · 02/11/2015 22:10

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skorpion · 02/11/2015 22:10

If he's making you jump up to keep the relationship going who's to say it will not be your DD's job to do the same if she wants a relationship with him? What child needs to know that she has her father's love only on his terms?

Being a parent overrides everything else, surely?

skorpion · 02/11/2015 22:12

Sorry you are going through this.

Spero · 02/11/2015 22:14

I am so sorry. I don't think it will get better. I think it will only get worse. The longer you wait to end it, the harder it will be for your daughter.

OhBigHairyBollocks · 02/11/2015 22:16

Get rid. So sorry that you are going through this. Xx

Atenco · 02/11/2015 22:23

My father went abroad to live when I was four and it honestly wasn't so bad, then when I learnt more about how my parents' marriage had been I consider myself very lucky

CharlotteCollins · 02/11/2015 22:26

Sounds like he will cause her grief and low self-esteem by his presence.

Do your DD a favour. You will be so much happier away from him, and importantly, so will she (whether he does what he's threatening or not).

Poppyred85 · 02/11/2015 22:26

So sorry you're going through this. As others have said this is blatant emotional blackmail and a cowardly way to behave. Your daughter's self esteem will come through love and stability from those around her (obviously from you) but by all other positive adults in her life too- grandparents/aunts/uncles/family friends etc. My only advice is to say get some legal advice- if it's likely he will clear off abroad that doesn't negate his financial responsibilities but it may be harder to get him to live up to them. Take care of yourself and your little girl.

AcrossthePond55 · 02/11/2015 22:29

Better lose him now than lose him later. He's obviously not committed to his child if he can be so cavalier about deserting her. Do you really want her to learn that this is the way a man treats a woman, or worse, to grow up in fear of upsetting Daddy because he emotionally withdraws from her or threatens to leave?

It sounds to me as if you are each just a 'habit' with the other. And I'll bet that the real reason he doesn't want you to leave is that you do the lion's share of the housework, cooking, etc. In other words, you make his life easy and comfortable and he doesn't want to lose that.

Since you call him your partner, just thank your lucky stars that you aren't married to him! I hope your finances are separate and that you are in a position to leave.

MissApple · 02/11/2015 22:42

He knows how much it will get to you. He's hopefully bluffing for your daughters sake

AnyFucker · 02/11/2015 22:46

I hope he isn't bluffing and he fucks off to the far side of fuck

That would be the best outcome, tbh

isamonster · 02/11/2015 23:43

He doesn't deserve any more of your time. There's nothing to think about if he's prepared to threaten you like that. Don't worry about what he is saying - tbh he is a total cunt to manipulate you like this.

My story is I recently left France to return to UK with my dd, leaving her daddy who had decided to tell me he found family life boring and wasn't sure he loved me any more out of the blue while my dad was dying of cancer...

He made a massive fuss about going to court for access and was awarded half of all the holidays along with both half terms. In practice he didn't take her for half-term so it'll be nearly five months since he's seen her when she goes at Christmas.

However Dd is 4 and she is loving her school, her new friends, living in our little house. She isn't letting it get to her- she's a happy, outgoing little person and I'm calmer and stronger without him. We're doing OK.

gingerfinn · 03/11/2015 09:15

Ladies you are amazing. Talk about waking up in the morning to a consensus of opinion!

You are all absolutely right of course. It's inevitable and - as one of you said - he's put the writing on the wall. How can I stay with someone who has declared his lack of commitment in such a way? It's only a matter of time as I'm starting to feel quite desperate to be free of what is a stagnant relationship.

His relationship with his daughter is HIS responsibility. I need to remember that. It is my new mantra.

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mix56 · 03/11/2015 09:29

Yes, it is, & your daughter will learn all the wrong things from him if you stay, indifference, & dull duty bound relationship with no genuine commitment.
& what about you? you just forfeit your chance of happiness in the mean time?
Please just find yourself a new home near your family, & he takes responsibility for his continuing relationship with DC. Please start actively moving towards separation today, tomorrow is another day wasted.

wheelsonabus · 03/11/2015 09:46

You will feel as light as a feather when this man gets off your back, as will your dd. Think about how that might feel - not to worry about all this shite. One day you'll be sat in the park watching your dd play, he'll be on the far side of the world and you'll feel like the weight of the world has been lifted off your shoulders. Her childhood won't last forever - this time is for love and happiness.