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leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 00:24

Tonight dh and I had a row. I had moved some 18 rated video games which belong to dh out of the way of ds so he could not play them ..just before school started this term. I have previously moved them a couple of times and had initially today forgotten what I had last done with them as I have been away all week and it just wasn't in my head.
Dh asked me where they were and I said where I had last seen them ..true but didn't say I had moved them again as he would probably be quite angry that I had moved them at all. I was going to bring them in and just ' find them' nearby and ask him to keep them out of the way. I explained a couple of times they had been squashed behind the cabinet and underneath the cabinet and I wasn't sure if he had done that or maybe ds had seen or hidden them.
When ds came down, DJ started going on about how ' she has moved the games ' and she said it was you, ds' I said no, I just didn't know why they were in all different places and could they stay upstairs. Ds , initially joking, then started getting quite worked up and kept saying to me' swear you haven't moved them etc etc' with DH there going on as well, and I felt very intimidated by DH and if I now confessed to knowing where they were he would go ballistic and be angry toward me in front of ds so I just said I last saw them in the corner and wouldn't say more. DH meanwhile was getting more angry and just kept saying she's lying and ds was saying you are lying . Ds went off upset because I had ' lied ' and knew where they were or maybe was upset because DH was angry and this appeared to be my fault. Dh had gone out for five minutes and ds declared he wasn't speaking to me as I had lied and seemed upset which is very unusual , and I had to explain that they were unsuitable games for him and I hadn't really wanted a big discussion about it but had moved them for his benefit but would obviously return them to Dh. Dh came back in, still fuming and I asked him to just tone it down as ds was upset and for him not to have arguments in front of ds for no reason as it was unfair, and not to be so aggressive in his arguing towards me. I actually said to him, don't say another word about it or I will call the police. No idea why I even said that it just came out. I have never called 999 or even threatened to call the police in my life.
Ds wouldn't speak to me, he and Dh started watching TV quite normally and amicably and I then went into another room. I started wTching X factor but just started to feel overwhelmed and wanted to get outside so pretended I was popping to the shop. I got in my car and just seemed to be overwhelmed with sort of agitation and anxiety and started to cry out loud..not like normal tears but sort of panic loud tears . I was saying'I don't know' repeatedly and 'Oh dear' and drove off for a few minutes to calm down then realised I had nowhere to go and had to come back.
It was all really odd and the only time I have felt similar is when I was told my dad had died suddenly and I was so shocked. The feeling I had was I was just so scared of Dh..he didn't do anything but he has this unpredictable air and gets so angry especially when someone does something ' on purpose' And mainly towards me I just felt terrified. I know I hate conflict and don't tolerate it well and he didn't hit me or anything so I don't know how much was fear and how much was just overwhelming confusion that I hadn't done anything wrong and upset at feeling scared in my own home.Later Dh said I had 'behaved really badly ' by taking his possessions.
I can't fully process it all yet but if you can just give some thoughts I will be grateful. I reassured ds that the games were sorted and I moved them to prevent him playing with them one day when I was at work and have returned the games to Dh with instruction not to leave them lying around again. As usual, Dh has spent the rest of the evening joking with ds and I have been gutted. Please help me to make sense of all this.
As another small example, I accidentally made a hole in a laundry bag last week ironing on a name tag ..Dh had got it from e bay brand new for ds. I completely panicked, have not told Dh, bought another one and am still dreading when he finds out I have ruined it. What to do?

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leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 15:06

He is now in same room. I am a bit anxious and just thoroughly pissed off that I have days off over the weekend and it's been spoilt. I am questioning the future, Christmas etc just don't know what to think. I have no family.

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NameChange30 · 20/09/2015 15:17

Could you go out for a few hours without him? Treat yourself to a film, a massage, a browse around the shops, a coffee and cake - anything?!

When he's out at work you'll have time to call women's aid and start getting your head around things.

Do you have a good friend you could meet up with in the next few days?

leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 15:18

I will be away from tomorrow until Friday. Can pm anyone who wants to know.

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leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 16:03

Know why I mean

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LumpySpacedPrincess · 20/09/2015 16:15

This is no way to live op. You sound deeply unhappy and uncomfortable in your own home. Are you financially able to support yourself if the relationship ended?

Ineedtimeoff · 20/09/2015 16:22

Have you left OP? Is that why you are gone until Friday?
I don't think you said how old your DS is. However, I would worry that he is in the middle of this and is joining in with your DH.

I think the domestic abuse power and control wheel is really insightful and can help you to understand what is going on.

I wish you the best OP.

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leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 16:43

No I am in work. Ds is nearly 14 .
When the actual bad argument is over, dust seems to settle, Dh is more helpful and polite and I withdraw for a while feeling hurt and upset and disrespected then I eventually thaw and it's all swept under the carpet again. It happens every couple of weeks. I get especially hurt because he is so rude to me specifically and so hurtful and disrespectful while trying to get his own way/ make his point etc. he seems to pull everyone else in against me by fair means or foul and I just can't handle it. I've tried sticking up for myself..the children say' stop arguing mum' I've tried saying nothing.. He just asks me questions and demands answers'why are we late / why do you always make us late ?? Etc' I've tried discussing with a friend who is supportive but lives quite far away and so doesn't see much first hand.

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amarmai · 20/09/2015 17:10

He is a bully and your children are scared too - that's why they are siding with the bully- in case he turns on them. Are you in control of the money you earn - or is he? How many children and what ages? Since you are away from home with work , you can explore support and legal options and plan how to get away from this bully. Arrange with your employer to have your salary paid into a different bank in your name alone . Keep your plans to yourself until everything is in place.

leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 17:11

Have looked at the wheel online . No violence but big recognition about being put down, name calling, not recognising accomplishments, devaluing my family, my work, things I say, subtlely changing the things I say, involving children. yes!, being the one who has the right to be in charge , being in control..I can't make plans with ds etc without his say so. He gets to choose who picks ds up..me or him. He drives and won't be a passenger. Intimidating yes aggressive manner and relentless insistence about things yes. derogatory about me in company. Not recognising if I have cleaned/ cooked/ worked/ done lifts and will blatantly say the opposite of what has happened... Such as say at a dinner party he might say something like oh leave doesn't do any cleaning, never has. Suggests day out then changes his mind and says not going any more if you ask why he'll say oh leave changed her mind.

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LookAtMeGo · 20/09/2015 17:26

I haven't RTFT and am posting in a bit of a hurry. I'm sure you've received some good advice so far. It isn't healthy how scared of your DH's reactions you seem to be.

Something that jumped out at me was him and your DS accusing you of 'lying'. That is very disrespectful. Also, the fact that your DS is allowed to say that he is not speaking to you seems to me to be very strange and unhealthy.

leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 17:36

Ds has literally never said that ever before. I was very shocked . I don't know if he was worried he would get the blame for the missing games from Dh which had not dawned on me at all before that, or worried by Dh being angry ( he was there only for some if it ) or just felt I let him down and caused the argument by moving the games in the first place. I did know where they were but hadn't said immediately for reasons above but it backfired and made matters worse. I think my feeling is, ds was upset by Dh anger and the blame for that was somehow mine.

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amarmai · 20/09/2015 19:43

the amount thta you have ticked from the wheel is scarey. Does this man have a job? You are dealing with psychological and emotional abuse and a there is a feeling thta it could be backed up with physical abuse. Is it your car he insists on driving? Is he controlling your money? He is alienating your children . You need to be out of there and getting counselling.

BCBG · 20/09/2015 20:16

I have been a mumsnetter from the very beginning (name changed twice) and usually HmmConfusedSad at the prompt LTB comments on threads like this but honestly OP, I think you need to speak to someone in RL, get a plan together and LTB. LTB. There. I said it.

leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 20:37

It's his car. He has a job and is well thought of and placid there . It's odd. Sometimes I think I am being over sensitive or imagining it. It's worth pointing out that at other times than described, he is ok, quite helpful and most of the time can divide jobs up etc. but as I say when he thinks someone has done something on purpose he gets really angry. He is also very negative towards me. If I agree, he is ok most of the time. If I disagree then that's when the problem starts.

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leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 20:43

Can I ask, can I , by discussing this with him and drawing his attention to these problems could he change ? Because as I say, he is ok with people at work etc.

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ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 20/09/2015 20:50

There is nothing that you could do to make him change. If he engaged in a programme for perpetrators of domestic abuse he has a chance of changing but it's certainly not something you can achieve by pointing it out to him.

AndDeepBreath · 20/09/2015 20:54

You are scared of him. Your posts are terrifying to read because of your tone and the way you are scared of him. This is not ok and no you won't change him. Only he can change himself, and he doesn't sound like the type to take constructive criticism well or tackle anger management. Call Women's Aid and talk this through. Think about the pattern you are setting for your kids here. You deserve better.

YouBastardSockBalls · 20/09/2015 20:56

Some fucking shocking replies early on in this thread. gamerchick and catmilkman you should be ashamed of yourselves.

OP your dh sounds horrendous. He is definitely abusive. What's scary is that he's now teaching your son the same.

He makes you scared and uncomfortable in your own home. That is not right. It is not normal. And it is not your fault.

You need to leave him. For your sake and your children's. Perhaps he will seek counselling, change his ways, repent for his actions and you will get back together. Perhaps not.
But the situation as it is is not healthy.

You poor thing. Hope you're feeling ok today Flowers

AndDeepBreath · 20/09/2015 20:59

YY to the shitty posts from gamerchick and catmilkman, unbelievable.

leavemealone2015 · 20/09/2015 22:05

For the sake of balance I should say all my life I have had a tendency to get really upset over conflict or being publicly told off ...I remember burst into tears at school at least once and feeling quite tearful at work once too. It's just the way I am .

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AndDeepBreath · 20/09/2015 22:14

Yes me too, I'm fairly oversensitive. I've never been scared of my DH though or unhappy in my own home. You're normalising this and that's not ok!

gamerchick · 20/09/2015 22:17

I'm not ashamed of fuck all me, sorry like. I stand by what I said.

However, you've outlined the horror you're feeling OP the question is what are you going to do now? There is a happy out there for all of us and if you feel happy and relaxed with him not there then you need a plan to remove him from your life.

Go to the gp and get help for your anxiety (propranolol is good) and work on freeing yourself from the fucker/

YouBastardSockBalls · 20/09/2015 23:05

OP please ignore suggestions that you need to go get meds for anxiety. I'm sure that removing the cause will help far more.
Your 'anxiety' isn't causing these problems, if you are feeling anxious it is because there is a man terrifying and abusing you in your own home.

I'm not ashamed of fuck all me, sorry like

Oh, lovely.

gamerchick · 20/09/2015 23:15

Anxiety meds help you cope with life. Why not?

NameChange30 · 20/09/2015 23:17

gamerchick your "advice" on this thread has been consistently shit, why not just piss off