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DH has become a selfish lover, and it's really affecting how I feel about him

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Username277 · 13/09/2015 10:27

Can't post in the sex thread because I've created a secondary account to post this, but there is some sexual content below!

When we got together, DH was a virgin and he turned out to be really great in the sack! He always made sure I came first, and usually multiple times and the sex often lasted all day.

Fast forward to now: He gets some form of sexual gratification at least 2-3 times a week (not including the times where he would rather masturbate on his own- because it's quicker, and helps him to relax?!) Out of those times I probably get orgasms from maybe 1 a fortnight? It's not that he doesn't know how to get me off, it's that he's being just too damn lazy and selfish to consider my needs.

Typical scenario 1: He wakes up in the middle of the night with a stonking hard on, rubs it up against me and it ends in a bj. He then yawns and says he's sorry but he has work in the morning and he's really tired. He'll make sure I get some tomorrow (which never comes- no pun intended).

Scenario 2: Same as before but with actual penetration and a 10 second fumble to get me ready. I occasionally have a minuscule orgasm.

Scenario 3: We have set aside the evening to have an early night so that I get some. Throughout the evening I prompt him several times to come to bed, and he makes an excuse and says he needs 10/20 more minutes each time. Eventually I go to bed at around 11pm and read or something. I go to check where he is at 11.30ish and he's asleep on the sofa. I wake him up and he swears he was just 'resting his eyes' and needs a few more minutes. He eventually comes to bed and apologises, saying he's too tired.

Scenario 4: We set aside the night to go to bed early and have some fun. He delays and delays because he 'has to let his stomach settle' or is 'just having a quick brew' or 'just wants to watch the end of this program'. We end up going up around 10.30ish. It feels very scheduled and awkward (even though he's never in the mood when I try to be spontaneous). He spends a few seconds kissing me (even though I repeatedly tell him that kissing is a great way to get me in the mood), then moves down to pinch and pull at my nipples- don't get me wrong, I LOVE a bit of pain with my pleasure, but he doesn't take the time or care to get the balance. Then he heads straight down there and gets to work orally, with very little variation. After I've orgasmed, he gets a great blowjob, penetrates me for < 5 minutes and then we're done and he wants a cuddle.

If you're still with me, last night, scenario 4 began to play out, but I asked him to stop as soon as he got past my nipples, because I could tell he wasn't in the mood and that really didn't get me in the mood. He said he was but he was just tired. I said that I wasn't and explained that it would be nice to have a bit more sensuality and time spent on me. He said we 'didn't have loads of time to do all that stuff'. I explained that I wasn't suggesting with got out the toy box and rope and made a night of it, just that it would be nice to have some teasing and kissing, and maybe some focus on my whole body instead of leaping to the 3 hot spots and expecting me to be ready. We tried kissing, but I ended up moving away from him because he still clearly wasn't into it. I suggested that we leave it there and go to sleep seeing as he was tired and he agreed. He knew I was upset because I had a serious discussion with him not so long ago about me doing a lot of giving and not getting much in return. Note, I don't mind the odd occasion when it's all about him, I actually get a lot out of pleasuring him; I would just like a bit more consideration than I'm currently getting! Anyway, he went straight to sleep and I ended up sat up for another hour, feeling upset and angry with him.

He's just called from work today, and he knows I'm upset but I said I'd rather talk when he gets home. I have no idea what to say without just repeating everything I've already said to him several times and ending up with promises that are never kept!

Has anyone else ever experienced this? How did you work it out?

Sex as a couple is really important for me, and I don't want to just 'sort myself out'. There's a lot more that I want from a sexual encounter than just a quick orgasm!

OP posts:
Annarose2014 · 13/09/2015 11:01

I'm no expert but it seems straightaway that once he's got his BJ, he loses interest. Maybe cool it with those a bit?

ImperialBlether · 13/09/2015 11:13

I can't believe you give him a blow job when he's woken you up in the middle of the night!

BathtimeFunkster · 13/09/2015 11:54

It sounds like he's not really that into you any more, but likes blow jobs.

I certainly wouldn't be giving any more of those.

Nor would I be making any more appointments for sex with someone who is clearly not interested.

category12 · 13/09/2015 11:58

Middle of night blowjobs wouldn't be happening.

NettleTea · 13/09/2015 12:03

I agree - you may be going out in hope that you will get some reciprical deal, but that obviously isnt the case. However if you keep doing all you have always done, you are going to keep on getting zilch.

so, although you get some satisafaction from your giving, I think you are going to need to rein it in until there is a bit more balance in the sexual relationship.

Do you know what you would like - in full detail, not in some abstract 'more sensual' way? is it a full body massage? is it half an hour snogging on the sofa? (why wait for him to come up? does he rebuff you if you try to get things moving downstairs?) Do you only orgasm through oral/manual or are you able to achieve orgasm through penetration - and thats whats missing? in which case you may need to go with the stop and start scenario, literally getting off if you think he is going to finish and go to sleep.

I think you do need to be very specific, and also start to be a bit more selfish. It seems that its about him getting his needs met and then giving up, so you can take control of giving him that if he wont paly fair

chelle792 · 13/09/2015 12:03

You mentioned toy box and rope - are you guys in a DS relationship?

shutupanddance · 13/09/2015 12:08

Sorry, he doesn't fancy you anymoreSad

Username277 · 13/09/2015 12:11

Chelle792, yes we are in a D/s relationship which makes it difficult to see just stopping giving him anything as a solution :/

I haven't given him explicit details of what I want, I don't really know what I want other than a bit more time and attention and not to feel like it's a chore for him. Whenever I try to initiate something there and then, he'll kiss me back for a couple of minutes and then have to do something.

OP posts:
Joysmum · 13/09/2015 12:13

He know you aren't happy and you want to talk later.

There's nothing wrong with repeating what you've already said. This shows it's an issue and not something he could write off to you being in a bad mood last night.

You have every right to feel used. I think the balance you've struck in writing this thread is a good one. It was good, he was great, now it's not and you'd like to get back to how it was.

Whatifitoldyou · 13/09/2015 12:21

Is he watching porn? It's my experience that watching porn has this effect. It sounds like he's having sex on you instead of with you.

It sounds like although you've raised the issue many times you've not backed it up with actions. I think you need to attempt one more conversation then back it up with actions. Make it clear he is not to wake you up ever again. No more oral for him. Put the brakes on things when it's clear he's not making any effort. Don't let him continue to climax. Ultimately it doesn't affect him so he doesn't care.

I've had this problem and it wasn't possible to resolve it. I think it was caused by a combination of watching porn, me having a default yes approach to sex , and being ok with quickies. Quickies soon became the norm. I spoke to him (no affect) then stopped sleeping with him. He would reluctantly attempt to go through the motions of trying to please me but it's not very nice when you know they can't really be bothered. It also wasn't just confined to the bedroom, he had generally little interest in my feelings.

Whatifitoldyou · 13/09/2015 12:35

This is not the terms of a d/s relationship. If he's abusing it to be lazy and ignore your feelings you really need to redefine your relationship.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 13/09/2015 12:54

My DP has a rule, he never comes first as he knows that way laziness lies!

Very occasionally I will give him a BJ with nothing in return, but the rest of the time it's all about me until I'm done, then it's his turn.

This works brilliantly for us, but of course it does take time. It sounds like your DH isn't prioritising sex for some reason. The 'sorting himself out' because it's quicker and easier is also very odd.

I don't know how you get him to see that his priorities are all out, but if he doesn't start to put your pleasure up there with his then I'd be going on BJ strike for sure.

chelle792 · 13/09/2015 13:03

whatifitoldyou it's not the terms, no. But the ds does complicate things somewhat. Is it a CNC relationship op?

Username277 · 13/09/2015 13:16

Chelle792 , it isn't CNC. It does cloud things, because it means withholding affection on my part doesn't really seem like a solution, because I want to give him pleasure :/ However, we never started out our D/s relationship like this; he was always very caring and made sure we were both taken care of at first.

OP posts:
MarkRuffaloCrumble · 13/09/2015 13:22

It should be about both of you giving the other pleasure, just in different ways. Presumably you get pleasure from being sub, not from being left hanging or from him snoozing on the sofa!

If your H is more concerned about his own gratification than yours then it's really not a S/D thing, it's a selfish arsehole thing.

LittleRedRidingHoodie1 · 13/09/2015 13:43

What is CNC?

Username277 · 13/09/2015 13:45

@LittleRedRidingHoodie1

CNC is consensual non-consent

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Eminado · 13/09/2015 13:58

OMG shut your shop up!! He sounds so incredibly selfish. Just stop!

scatterthenuns · 13/09/2015 14:00

Stop doing sexual acts when there is nothing in it for you, for starters!

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 13/09/2015 14:07

How long have you been together OP?

I only ask because it seems - to me - that to go from being a virgin to a D/S relationship in the space of one relationship seems... I dunno. A lot. I could be wrong of course, you could have been together for 20 years and built up to this, but if it's happened very quickly then I think there might be something in that. Like he's gone from 0 to having an awful lot of sexual experiences and now he's - bored? Sated? Or pushing for the next 'big' experience? Or he's watching a lot of porn looking for that next experience?

I could be way off beam of course.

ReallyNotAMorningPerson · 13/09/2015 14:15

Would anyone mind explaining what a d/s relationship is? Confused

Joysmum · 13/09/2015 14:17

Withholding affection, or refusing to be used?

MissFitt68 · 13/09/2015 14:17

Why bother with all this d/s and cnc stuff? Why do it anymore? Just revert to a standard relationship and start again?

ReallyNotAMorningPerson · 13/09/2015 14:20

CNC? Confused

gamerchick · 13/09/2015 14:22

He wakes you up in the night and you give him a blowjob?