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I don't trust my judgement right now. And I need advice, quick. :(

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takenlikeafool · 07/08/2015 20:14

This might end up as being really long, so apologies in advance. I'm doing this as anon just in case there is any backlash.

So, about 3-4 weeks ago, I joined Match.com.. impulse decision after being single for about 2 years, and having not dated anyone for just over 1. I met someone very quickly - lets call him David - within 24 hours on a Sunday morning, and arranged a date for that Thursday. A quick drink in a pub.

On the Tuesday, a colleague set me up with a friend. I arranged the date for Wednesday, thinking it's best to get it out the way cause I didn't really feel any attraction, definitely nothing like David. I told David, just to be totally transparent. And he called the date off, saying it was a bit 'weird' and that he was a 'one man girl'.

Fair enough. I went on the date with the colleagues friend, wasn't great as predicted. In fact it was really awkward. On the Thursday, I took a punt and asked David out for a drink. He said yes. Hoorah!!

We met that night, had a drink, ended up getting some food, and then going to McDonalds to get a Mcflurry! Totally hit it off, and it was literally love at first sight. He literally took my breath away when I first saw him, and I've never experienced anything like it. While we were eating our McFlurry's we spoke about us, and I said I would delete my Match account. I didn't feel like I needed it anymore, and anyway, at least this way I could get a refund, hahaha. He agreed, and said he would do the same, that we should only date each other, that he wouldn't even look at another girl etc etc. We kissed. A lot. It was the perfect, sweetest date.

At this stage, I should mention, I am 24. He is 43. Just an FYI. I generally like older guys, and so it suits me. He's divorced, no kids.

That weekend, we spent together. Saturday, we went to a park, I went back to his place, and I very nearly went all the way with him. I ended up giving him head. He loved it.. as most do. Sunday, I cooked a dinner for him, and we slept together. Way too quick, I know. Shit happens.

I see him on Wednesday. Cook dinner for him. Have sex again. Also end up having anal. Really good night again. I offer, but he doesn't stay. Leaves very late.

He's busy for the rest of the week and the weekend. We see each other again this Tuesday. Go for a meal in the middle of town, which is really lovely. I pay, and he's pretty shocked at that, but doesn't argue when I insist. We go back to mine. Have cuddles, have sex. It was absolutely incredible, and so incredibly passionate and loving.

The next day - Wednesday, we arranged to see each other again. And he asked if I'd like to stay with him, I excitedly accepted - he's been quite nervous about sleeping over at mine, so I thought I might as well do it first and ease his nerves a bit. It was a lovely night, if not a bit awkward, as the first night together normally is. We got a takeaway, watched a couple of films. Had sex. It was pretty good. Post coital, we had a little cuddle, and played on our phones.. he was showing me stuff on his Facebook.. while doing so, a notification from Plenty of Fish popped up: 'XXXXX wants to meet you!!'.

What the fuck. He tries to swipe it away, but I've already seen it. I didn't even know he was on Plenty of Fish, as well as Match. I don't say anything, until later when I see all his apps, and I make a comment about him having a load of dating apps. 'Ahh, yeah, I can't be bothered to delete them'.

ooookay.

At this stage, we go to bed and I don't mention anything about it again. I'm gutted and totally in shock, even though I don't know whether he's active or not.

I mention everything to my housemates when I get back home on Thursday night after work. And we decide to look for his profile. We find it, and find out he has been 'online today'. Okay, it might just be him logging in from the night before... we'll try again later.

At this point, we make an actual (totally fake) profile, and 'show interest' in him. Today, I've found out he has looked at my profile. I've also seen he's been online on POF and Match at the same time as the fake profile.

So now, I'm not sure what to think. I know I've totally gone OOT but I also think if we were meant to be exclusive then he shouldn't be online on the dating apps at all.. I know I wouldn't have stayed over at his, and I definitely wouldn't have had any form of sex with him if I had known he was still crawling through the sites.

Am I right to be angry and hurt? I'm not quite sure what I should do know - do I stay quiet and just carry on? After all we've only been dating for a couple weeks. Or do I mention it?

I think I'd like to mention it, but I'd have to do it over text because I just couldn't bear for him to know that I'm really upset about it.. I don't even know what to say. AIBU?? Any advice or observations would be great. x

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autumnleaves123 · 08/08/2015 10:28

It's probably more lust at first sight. Nothing wrong with that..

Cabrinha · 08/08/2015 10:46

Autumnleaves don't be a dick!

Only time will tell? Time has told.
He has already lied to her.

Why would she wait for him to delete "eventually" instead of, ooooh - when he said he would?!

NickiFury · 08/08/2015 10:59

The very fact that he referred to himself as "a one woman man" and cancelled your date because you had another when he'd only met you once was a red flag the size of a bed sheet. This man is a pig, and manipulative to boot. He's manipulated you into being exclusive to him far too quickly and he himself has just carried on as "normal". From what you write I think he knows exactly what he's doing as well and his age it's likely he's vastly more experienced than you.

If I were you I would just disappear. Block him on your dating apps, block his number on your phone, get him off FB (I bet you've already got him on there haven't you?) and don't even bother with an explanation. I don't think you will do that though, I think you're just at the beginning of a lot of heartache with this man and you're just going to have to experience that for yourself sadly.

takenlikeafool · 08/08/2015 11:12

Nicki How right you are, I have him on FB...

I've just text him telling him I don't want to see him again and why. Cruel to do it via text but I just know I wouldn't be able to get my words out. Here's hoping he doesn't reply.

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ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 08/08/2015 11:13

It's not cruel to dump a guy you have barely been dating a month by text!
You have constructed a fantasy around this guy which does not reflect reality.

Cabrinha · 08/08/2015 11:14

Oh well done you, strong behaviour!

But why do you think it's cruel?! Cruel to dump someone who lied to you? No.

mummytime · 08/08/2015 11:16

"Counselling? Are you serious? I might be stupid, but I'm not insane. I'm 24. Not 12. "

Sounds very immature to me. Counselling can be good for everyone, not just the "insane" as you so lovely expressed it.

takenlikeafool · 08/08/2015 11:16

I don't know, maybe it's just the way I've been brought up, I've always thought things should be done f2f or at least over phone..

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SuperFlyHigh · 08/08/2015 11:17

if you want to end your subscription on a dating site after one date and if he says he's a 'one woman man' those are 2 flags to me - not 100% red but certainly a pinky colour.

takenlikeafool · 08/08/2015 11:20

Insane was used for lack of a better word. My point is, I'm sure counselling is very good in some cases, but just because I find myself having things in common with older guys (who are generally about 7 yrs older then me, and not normally in their 40s) doesn't warrant my needing to seek help or talk through why that is.

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ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 08/08/2015 11:21

Your romanticism of a relationship that didn't really exist and your lack of insight into your own behaviour indicate that you would benefit from counselling. As you say you don't trust your own judgement...

Cabrinha · 08/08/2015 11:23

Tbf OP, you mentioned older men like it was your norm and your examples were someone 43 and a bloke in his 50s! Shock

Cabrinha · 08/08/2015 11:25

And also tbf, you've shown bloody good judgement asking your flat mates about it, asking here, and then dumping the liar.

You may have been brought up to dump F2F, but I expect you were also brought up not to lie. He wasn't worth your F2F time. Nothing wrong with making it easier for you, given this wasn't a neutral situation, but getting shot of a liar.

autumnleaves123 · 08/08/2015 11:26

Expecting someone to delete all their online dating profiles after the first date seems quite unrealistic to me. Believing they will do it, naive in the extreme.

I never did online dating but it does sound like a fuck feast, and anybody who finds real love in them is extremely lucky. Like winning the lottery or something.

NickiFury · 08/08/2015 11:45

Not cruel at all, not one bit. You showed him more care and respect than he showed you! You actually kept him up to speed on your choices. It may feel bad right now but you've totally done the right thing, you really have. You've done what those who have been through a horrible relationships know they should have done at the beginning when the warning signals were right there in front of them.

Cabrinha · 08/08/2015 12:30

autumnleaves it might well be unrealistic. And it might well be naïve to trust a stranger to do it.

But that is NO EXCUSE for someone to not do when they said they would! And when they tell you they are exclusive with you!

Don't excuse his shitty behaviour!

And actually, lots of people DO suspend profiles once sex is involved.

sapphirestars · 08/08/2015 14:16

Where are you at with him now taken? Have you finished it? Sorry if I didn't see x

Isetan · 08/08/2015 14:33

You went far too quickly with this man because you mistakenly believed that dating older men insulates you from dickish behaviour and it doesn't. There's nothing wrong with dating older men but don't confuse dating older men with being mature, it just means you're attracted to older men. There's also no shame in enjoying and having all kinds of sex but your eagerness to please, isn't currency that can be cashed in at a later date.

The obvious pitfall in trying to be the 'cool subservient girlfriend' is that you give bf's the permission to see your wants, needs and opinions as presented, which is secondary.

There is a distinct disconnect between your claims of maturity and your actual behaviour.

newstart15 · 08/08/2015 14:41

I think this guy has given you an important life lesson so dump him and know that in future you will be more cautious. I think we have all be taken in by a boyfriend in the past, I have,mostly in our 20's so chalk it up to experience.

Generally don't believe what some stranger says, look at their actions and it takes time to really get to know someone well. A lot of people (men) will manipulate/say whatever to get what they want, it's salesmanship..Be aware that not everyone is looking for a relationship so if that's important to you learn how to work that out before getting too involved.

Can I ask why you are on dating sites? No issue just at your I would have thought it's naturally easier to meet suitable guys - work, social, activities.

coffeenowalnuts · 08/08/2015 14:51

What did he do that was so terrible OP? You'd been seeing each other for five minutes. If you liked him that much, surely it might have been worth talking to him before dumping him by text?

takenlikeafool · 08/08/2015 15:42

No reply still, but I don't doubt that has hasn't seen it.

I'm a bit of a mess, which I guess I shouldn't be considering how long we dated, but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. Totally regretting my 2 minutes of courage.

sapphire Yeah, I ended it. I know it's the right decision. But I'm at the 'why-the-fuck-did-I-do-that' stage.

newstart It was an impulse decision really. It's a new job. Work wouldn't offer any opportunities to meet people as very corporate and not within the culture etc, and I've just moved to a totally new place, so didn't really know anyone.. thought it might be an easier way to meet people. Plus, I guess it goes back to the confidence thing but people generally don't approach me when out and about.. I don't approach them either.

coffee Yeah, I wish I had now.

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LovelyFriend · 08/08/2015 16:09

take the reason he won't reply is you were very disposable to him - just another sucker in a long line of women he is meeting online.

Don't regret what you did in dumping him - he's not replying because he doesnt see you as worth of a reply. His cover has been blown, he's been uncovered as the lying manipulative tosser he really is - what can he possibly say?

Do you think/hope he is about to come truthful now and say "Oh taken, I'm so sorry I fucked this up, please forgive me and take me back. I've been such a fool" - not going to happen, unless he thinks you are sucker enough to believe his lies and shag him again.

It's a great sign he hasn't contacted you - a sign that you were spot on about him being a dastardly person.

Move on, lesson learned.

LovelyFriend · 08/08/2015 16:11

you may have only been seeing him for 5 minutes but start as you mean to go on and all that! He's a proven liar with double standards and not to be trusted.

InTheBox · 08/08/2015 16:18

I second what newstart15 said. Consider this a lesson learned and move on. Don't confuse lust with love and learn to establish your boundaries.

mummy0bummy · 08/08/2015 16:32

OP, if I understand correctly you hadn't even met David IRL when he cancelled your date, due to you saying that you had a date with someone else set up?

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