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DH has left again

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AndHarry · 17/05/2015 08:34

Third time in as many years. He sat me down last night and said he was unhappy and thought we should separate. I asked him what he was unhappy about and what I needed to change. It was difficult to pin him down to anything but then it came out: he wants me to do things for him like sew buttons back onto his shirts and fix his trousers when there's a hole in the pocket or the hem has dropped. That's it. He wants to put me through all this again because of a few buttons. It's so incredibly pathetic I would laugh if I wasn't crying.

What it actually boils down to is that he wants to feel respected as the manly head of the household, even if he hasn't put it like that. As I told him last night, it's difficult to respect him when I feel like his mother: organising everything, picking up after him, reminding him of essential things that need doing for the kids, coming into the kitchen many days to find it full of dirty crockery from the day(s) before (I cook, he washes up), struggle to tidy up because the bins are overflowing (his job) and have to cajole him into coming out with the kids instead of sticking on a DVD and lying on the sofa all weekend. I have tried and tried in as many ways as I could think of to make things easy for him and do things for him but get ground down by the sheer laziness of his response. The more I do, the less he bothers.

I said I would do everything around the house if that would stop the arguments and resentment, just to be stonewalled with 'it won't work'. I asked him to try doing the household chores he had agreed to do, consistently, and got 'it won't work'.

I pointed out that I had supported him in going to the gym every morning before work and going out with his friends several nights a week so that he gets his own time. Apparently 'it's not that'.

I said how hurt I was that he had complained about what I cooked so I only made the things he said he wanted but he still orders pizza for himself. How hurt I am that when I did as he asked and made his lunches he didn't eat them, preferring to get fast food instead. 'Shrug'.

The fact is that he has a pretty cushy life but, as he repeatedly points out, he is the 'breadwinner' while I only work because I want to, so anything wrong around the house is immediately my fault for not being wifely enough.

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration. He didn't come to bed and this morning he wasn't in the house and his car has gone.

Another fall to the tax office to sort out tax credits tomorrow. Another time trying to keep myself together for the kids, dealing with their anxieties over their dad being gone, pretending that he's in meetings or at the gym every evening. Dealing with my parents' disappointment again.

I'm sorry this is an essay. I don't want anything, just needed to get it out.

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AndHarry · 01/06/2015 20:02

Those are all good points, I'll add them to the list.

I've had ongoing access to my credit report since the last lot of debts came out so I can see nothing has negatively affected my rating. The company's isn't brilliant but that's because the 1st year accounts haven't been filed yet. All the employees are being paid properly.

I'm just considering how best to sell my engagement ring. I don't have the certificate for it as I wasn't expecting to sell it but I expect it would pay for the divorce :(

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Penfold007 · 01/06/2015 20:18

What an busy and productive day you've had Flowers

AndHarry · 01/06/2015 20:38

:) It was my first post-holiday day at work today so that was a good way of keeping my mind off things. I'm now trying to muster the energy to do a workout DVD. Maybe one of the shorter ones :o

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Colabottle10 · 01/06/2015 22:13

Just a thought, if you are Company Secretary you are liable for the filing of accounts and and VAT returns if you're VAT registered. You will be fined if there are any irregularities do make sure you speak to the accountant for the business and get yourself disentangled from it.

AndHarry · 02/06/2015 22:42

Yes, I'm worried about that and am pushing on disentangling myself as quickly as possible.

I've now completed the paperwork for the solicitor and have everything ready to send it off tomorrow. Time for bed and hopefully I'll feel more cheerful in the morning.

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thegreysheep · 02/06/2015 23:25

Hmmm pretty clear cut case and eight pages if spot-on posts for LTBL - let the bastard leave.
Continue getting your ducks in a row and enjoy the holiday with your children to regroup.
I'd say either OW, or he thought with the holiday coming up you'd be anxious not to rock the boat and be so relieved if he decided to actually come at the last minute it would distract from his most recent transgressions.
When you come back, life will b tough for a while, but you'll have oneless 'child' to mind, at least you won't have to worry about your other two children getting you into debt again or going on dating websites!
Chin up, it will be easier long term.

Mom2K · 03/06/2015 04:19

I only read the first page, so apologies if I'm repeating anything or have missed further information - but I think it's time to let this man go and realize that you are worth so much more.

You should not have to sacrifice so much and make so many accomodations to try and get him to stay - a relationship is a two way street where both people compromise, and love/respect one another. You don't have a partner - you have a selfish, man-child who walks all over you and takes advantage.

If he comes crawling back again to use you some more (because he does in fact realize just how much you do...and he has returned on 3 occasions because he has realized that he actually has to grow up and do things for himself but doesn't want to when he can come back to you who does everything for him) - I really think you should turn him down. Or at the very least - stand up for yourself. You are not his maid. You are not his mother. There are rules that he must follow. I don't think that he is capable of being anything other than selfish so keeping him out of your life would be the best scenario...but whatever you do, don't throw yourself at his feet and tell him you will give him whatever he wants. You are not a doormat - you are equals, and if he refuses to pull his share, show love, and put effort into the relationship then you will be forever unhappy, always wondering when he'll next do this again. Flowers

AndHarry · 03/06/2015 12:44

I've re-read the thread from the beginning and I'm starting to see that I should be proud of myself. While filling out the legal paperwork last night it dawned on me that STBexH will go nuts when he sees what I've put down as examples of his unreasonable behaviour and I don't care. When I confronted him over the dating profile, my upset and hurt and the discomfort and embarrassment of the STI check he was outraged that I would think he had ever cheated and I tried to soften it for him by explaining that I had to act as though the worst had happened to protect my own health. Why?! Why was I trying to make his own infidelity easier for him? Confused

I've also discovered more debts. Thankfully they're private arrangements and nothing to do with me but I feel a surge of anger every time so find something new and then remember the way he spoke to me when he left and on the occasions since then. He should be too ashamed to look me in the face.

Off to the post office now to post those forms.

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mix56 · 03/06/2015 13:15

anger is good.

AndHarry · 03/06/2015 13:17

Posted.

It's helping me to not feel so sorry for myself but I also feel sorry for him. He's screwed up well and truly and has to fix it for himself.

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mix56 · 03/06/2015 13:21

what I meant was anger is better than suffering. There will inevitably be regrets & sadness. KOKO

thegreysheep · 03/06/2015 13:25

Well done on all of that, and yes, you should be so proud of yourself - despite all the sadness and shocks you are playing a blinder.

Becauseicannes · 03/06/2015 13:38

You're doing great

AndHarry · 03/06/2015 13:45

Thanks.

I just got the STI results back: all negative, thank goodness.

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hellsbellsmelons · 03/06/2015 14:01

One less thing to worry about now - glad it was all clear.
I've only just come across this thread and you sound like you are doing well.
It might not feel like it but keep going.

Atenco · 03/06/2015 15:33

Just read this thread OP and you seem to have gone from 1950s housewife to 2015 powerhouse of a woman overnight, I am so full of admiration for you!

BIWI · 03/06/2015 21:17

Good news about the STI checks. And sounds like you're making great progress Flowers

AndHarry · 04/06/2015 11:50

I don't know that I've ever been the 50's housewife. I've certainly battled every attempt made to put me in that box, sometimes not in very positive ways.

The STI results were a relief; I braced myself when the HIV and Hepatitis results were given. That would have been just awful.

The other relief is that I've worked through my budget and can pay for everything. It's going to be a bit tight but not too bad. STBexH offered to pay the mortgage while the DC are still at home but I'm going to turn him down on that one. His first offer was to pay the money into my account and I'd have to show him a statement to prove that I'd paid it. The next time we spoke he'd changed it to he would pay and I would know if he wasn't keeping up the payments as I'd get letters from the bank Hmm Thanks but no thanks!

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Lweji · 04/06/2015 12:08

Will he be contributing anything?

mix56 · 04/06/2015 12:24

hmmm, I think he must pay a fixed maintenance instead, what happens when the kids finish education ? you sell the house? I think if you are paying the mortgage he should sign over the house, he can keep his pension fund :o)

AndHarry · 04/06/2015 12:45

The child maintenance payments are £72 a week. My solicitor will no doubt advise me to get something from him but I don't want to be put in a position where I'm relying on him giving me money and be left without a paddle if/when he gets into serious financial difficulty. The DC are only very little (5 and 2) so it's a long time until they leave home and quite a lot could happen in that period in terms of moving house, one or other of us re-marrying etc.

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tipsytrifle · 04/06/2015 19:13

AndHarry - i'm not so good on the practicalities, which is what you need right now. So some impractical Flowers for support and how you are handling this. Awesome.

Jen1610 · 04/06/2015 19:19

I'm really sorry to hear how upset you are, but get him to ! He has done you a favour. Once you heal and get over the heartache you will be sooo much better off without him. He's a lazy so and so..relationships are suppose to be fifty fifty, he's clearly not contributing as much as he's taking. What DOES he DO for YOU??

MistressDeeCee · 04/06/2015 19:28

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration

No wonder. He is a complete and utter pain the the ass

You may feel drained, upset, sad, emotional, all those things if he leaves. But you WILL get over it and then realise you are far better off without him

The silly man will probably be back when he realises you are a saint and rare is the woman who will put up with that nonsense for very long. I hope you don't take him back or screaming with sheer frustration will be a very regular occurence for you soon enough. Bloody pest.

Jen1610 · 04/06/2015 19:55

Just caught up on the full thread since I posted the first message. You are actually amazing. What a strong, proactive woman. You can do this. You will be much happier soon! Well done you for not taking anymore of his nonsense and seeing thus isn't a good life for you or the children with his debts, lies and constant coming and going.