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DH has left again

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AndHarry · 17/05/2015 08:34

Third time in as many years. He sat me down last night and said he was unhappy and thought we should separate. I asked him what he was unhappy about and what I needed to change. It was difficult to pin him down to anything but then it came out: he wants me to do things for him like sew buttons back onto his shirts and fix his trousers when there's a hole in the pocket or the hem has dropped. That's it. He wants to put me through all this again because of a few buttons. It's so incredibly pathetic I would laugh if I wasn't crying.

What it actually boils down to is that he wants to feel respected as the manly head of the household, even if he hasn't put it like that. As I told him last night, it's difficult to respect him when I feel like his mother: organising everything, picking up after him, reminding him of essential things that need doing for the kids, coming into the kitchen many days to find it full of dirty crockery from the day(s) before (I cook, he washes up), struggle to tidy up because the bins are overflowing (his job) and have to cajole him into coming out with the kids instead of sticking on a DVD and lying on the sofa all weekend. I have tried and tried in as many ways as I could think of to make things easy for him and do things for him but get ground down by the sheer laziness of his response. The more I do, the less he bothers.

I said I would do everything around the house if that would stop the arguments and resentment, just to be stonewalled with 'it won't work'. I asked him to try doing the household chores he had agreed to do, consistently, and got 'it won't work'.

I pointed out that I had supported him in going to the gym every morning before work and going out with his friends several nights a week so that he gets his own time. Apparently 'it's not that'.

I said how hurt I was that he had complained about what I cooked so I only made the things he said he wanted but he still orders pizza for himself. How hurt I am that when I did as he asked and made his lunches he didn't eat them, preferring to get fast food instead. 'Shrug'.

The fact is that he has a pretty cushy life but, as he repeatedly points out, he is the 'breadwinner' while I only work because I want to, so anything wrong around the house is immediately my fault for not being wifely enough.

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration. He didn't come to bed and this morning he wasn't in the house and his car has gone.

Another fall to the tax office to sort out tax credits tomorrow. Another time trying to keep myself together for the kids, dealing with their anxieties over their dad being gone, pretending that he's in meetings or at the gym every evening. Dealing with my parents' disappointment again.

I'm sorry this is an essay. I don't want anything, just needed to get it out.

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tribpot · 14/11/2015 18:34

Blimey - the 25 quid wasn't for both presents, he blew 50 on presents for their friends? I'm assuming that's not normal in your social circle?

Didn't he insist on doing this party for dd because it was his weekend?

Like every other parent, he needs to work out how to budget for the expenses connected to dc's social life. If he's unaware of what those are, he only has himself to blame.

Every month is going to be some fresh excuse to avoid paying maintenance. The moment you concede the amount will permanently go down. Get what you can before he goes bankrupt.

AndHarry · 14/11/2015 18:44

They were just normal parties for classmates. I would spend about £5 if I didn't have something suitable in my 'random present' drawer.

He wanted to do the party. Before he asked to switch the weekends aroubd for his course her birthday would have been on 'my' weekend and I would have done a little party at home with some of her friends, then a family birthday tea on her actual birthday. He chose to do a massive party with a bouncy castle, entertainer and £100 cake. I didn't ask him to do it.

I don't understand what he thinks he's going to get out of annoying me over maintenance like this. I'm in the middle of remortgaging the house to release his share of the equity to the tune of tens of thousands of £. Surely he should concentrate on cooperating with that process and attempting to be in my good books so that he gets that money as quickly as possible?

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tribpot · 14/11/2015 19:04

I assume this equity release is being done after consultation with your solicitor?

He knows you're unlikely to want to hold up the financial settlement, which is only necessary because of the divorce you instigated, so feels he has carte blanche to punish you for stepping out of line in the first place. I guess he also knows he can threaten to withdraw labour (i.e. have the children at all) if you don't do as he says. You on the other hand don't want to make a show of force because you (understandably) don't want to stoop to his level. But really he holds all the cards because you want this over more than he does. The money he is less bothered about because money slips through his fingers like water anyway.

AndHarry · 14/11/2015 19:17

Yes, the financial settlement is being synchronised with the buy-out so there can't be any nightmarish situation where I buy him out and then still owe him part of the value of the house in the financial settlement.

I think he needs the money quite desperately to avoid going bankrupt. I also think he has some dodgy 'friends' who are encouraging him in his self-deception of feeling hard done-by.

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Kr1stina · 14/11/2015 20:06

Well naturally . After all, he's subsidising your children . It's not like they are his children too

Kr1stina · 14/11/2015 20:07

Did he charge you for the calpol BTW?

AndHarry · 14/11/2015 20:20

And I'm on benefits, don't forget, whereas he had to earn his money Hmm

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Kr1stina · 14/11/2015 20:24

Yeah, because obviously all your work bringing up his children is of no value to him . Or to society as a whole .

Remember when father look after their own children it's called " babysitting "

AndHarry · 14/11/2015 21:05

Not to mention the FT work I do, but that doesn't count because it's flexi-time. Some choice quotes from his emails on the subject:

Having to pay all bills etc with benefits or additional income coming in.

But then again, maybe you think you can stand on your own 2 feet without me and you can make it hard for me, this may be true with all the benefits you are entitled to having and by you now working full time with flexible working hours, due to having the children, but it is wrong to make me suffer as all I ever did was try my hardest to support you and the children.

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Kr1stina · 14/11/2015 22:06

Yeah, because it's so easy for a single mother to work full time in a good job. I expect you are living a life of luxury on all these benefits .

Why are you making him suffer by expecting him to support his own children? You really are heartless what a load of self pitying drivel

tribpot · 14/11/2015 22:36

I hope you are ignoring these texts when they come in - engaging with this self-pitying bullshit won't help you at all.

However, I am sure that privately you recall that 'all' he ever did was repeatedly run up debts in the hundreds (thousands?) of pounds, make you walk (almost) barefoot in midwinter whilst spending £1000 on designer coats and shoes for himself, sat on his arse watching DVDs at the weekend, sat on his arse doing nothing after the house was burgled, repeatedly left you and the children - if he thinks that constitutes trying his hardest to support you and the children, his best is laughably short of the mark.

AndHarry · 15/02/2016 18:32

Resurrecting this thread because I need a whinge.

The divorce is slowly grinding through. I got the decree nisi in December but I'm having to hold off on the decree absolute until the financial consent order is finalised. I'm buying H out of the house and that's going through hopefully in the next 2 weeks.

He is being an arse over child maintenance. Hasn't paid regularly or the correct amount since September and speaks to me like crap or ignores my calls/texts when I challenge him on it. As soon as the consent order is through I'm going to the CMS and he can try making his pathetic excuses to them.

He got me a bargain bin workout DVD for Christmas Hmm

The ILs aren't speaking to me and haven't been since before Christmas.

I've had to spend ££££ on legal bills.

I wish he would FOTTFSOF.

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AndHarry · 16/02/2016 20:08

Tonight little DD has topped the lot by throwing a crying, screaming, kicking tantrum because I can't do her hair as well as H's teenage girlfriend.

Give me strength Angry

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Joysmum · 16/02/2016 21:38

...and breath, the end is within spitting distance Flowers

AndHarry · 16/02/2016 22:21

Yup, nearly there. I told him last night exactly what I thought of him so that relieved the pressure somewhat. I can't wait until this legal process is behind me. It will be a weight lifted.

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Kr1stina · 16/02/2016 22:29

His GF is a teenager ? Wow

You are well rid of him

AndHarry · 16/02/2016 22:34

It would seem so. Among other examples of sheer classiness, he hired a Ferrari to take her to her leavers prom and hired her to come to DD's birthday party dressed as Elsa Hmm There's also another one from London and DS likes to copy her accent :o

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Kr1stina · 16/02/2016 22:39

Please tell me you made that up ? Shock

Leavers prom ? < faints > how old is he ?

AndHarry · 16/02/2016 23:36

No, sorry. It was only a couple of weeks or so after he left and he plastered photos all over Facebook. He's 31.

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MrsJorahMormont · 17/02/2016 00:21

Fuck me. Just read through this whole thread and I have to tell you: you are a superstar and your STBExH is a wanker of the highest possible order. He's right up there in the top worst ever MN wanker exes. He's right up there with Chutney Twunt.

Wine OP. Not long now until you are rid of him.

Kr1stina · 17/02/2016 09:01

What ^^ she said !

I'd imagine that all his friends and family are also seeing what a wanker he is . Though I'm sure that no consolation to you and his children .

It's interesting that people are not just content to fuck up their lives and those of their partner / kids. They then have to post it all over bloody Facebook .

AndHarry · 21/02/2016 21:52

Anyone want to read through my response to an email from STBexH telling me he's going to be reducing maintenance payments (his income has gone down)?

Hi STBexH,

That's fine. While we're discussing finances, obviously the current arrangement hasn't been working so I suggest that from March the payment date is moved to the 22nd, in line with your pay day. Please confirm whether you agree or not so that I can change direct debits etc.

Also, from 1st April onwards I will no longer be able to pay for your childcare costs as I have been doing, as the minimum statutory maintenance calculation assumes that you are responsible for all costs related to the children on the days for which you are responsible. Please arrange for [DS wraparound care provider] and [DD nursery] to invoice you separately for the hours for which you are responsible i.e. alternate Monday mornings, Wednesdays and Thursdays. By my calculations, this should be roughly £34 a week for DS and £48 a week for DD but I could be way out. [DS childcare] usually send a bill around the 20th and [DD nursery] bill a half term in advance so you'll need to give them enough time to work this out.

I'm also still getting a lot of post for you. From next week I'm going to start returning everything to sender as I don't want to be responsible for you not receiving important letters on time, so please either set up a redirection or inform the senders of your new address as previously requested.

AndHarry

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Ohfourfoxache · 21/02/2016 22:02

Sounds perfectly reasonable.

What an utter wank stain he is Angry

AndHarry · 21/02/2016 22:11

I was going to add a lot more in about if he messes me around in future I'll be going straight to the CMS (will be doing this anyway once the consent order is done) but decided to keep things de-escalated.

I've sent that now.

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WordGetsAround · 21/02/2016 22:11

You are brilliant. Keep on going.

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