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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Shaping Up For A Super, Sober Summer!

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Mouseface · 12/05/2015 13:40

Hey, I'm Mouse Smile

This is 'Gerald', our trustworthy, non judgemental Bus, full of a variety of posters who have travelled long and far, or even just joined us a few stops ago.

This is a place where you can be who YOU want to be. 24/7, 365. This lovely place is just like your best friend, there's no slagging off, no judging, just us. Smile

Drinking or not, embarrassed, fed up of the way things are, or just lonely of living the way drinking makes you do, come and take a peek and see what you think.....

THIS THE LAST THREAD WE HAD

AND THIS IS WHERE THE BUS WAS BUILT, WHERE IT ALL BEGAN

We can't wait to meet you, we won't bite! Well, unless you ask very nicely. Wink

Take good care until we see you. :) xx

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LobsterQuadrille · 24/06/2015 08:52

Gosh, you are a lovely lot. Thank you all so much. Now that I have stopped crying (in a good way), I will reply. Baby, I read your post in its entirety to DD before she left for school. She said how lovely you are - and asked me if she seems "disapproving". She does, but that's OK - what else could she be? She said that she's terrified of saying the wrong thing to me - and asked if I'm happy in my sober periods - I said that yes, I am - but am I? I'm not sure if "happy" is an emotion I remember, in honesty. The way she was speaking reminded me of a Henry James quote: "that perceptible hush which precedes a crisis" and that's exactly how I remember my childhood, for different reasons, and I always swore that any child of mine would have better. Yes, in beating myself up mode this morning ....

Yesterday afternoon, a friend came to pick me up, took me back to his house and I slept and watched a rubbish film. I have known him for a year and he has asked me to marry him, knowing all that comes with me, including the fact that DD hates men. OK, hates is a strong word; rather, she finds them an inessential part of life and frankly superfluous to our existence. Given her history (her father and mine) it's not that surprising. Anyway, I'm not making any rash decisions and he says he'll wait. I am incredibly wary of loving anyone and, amazing though he is, am very unsure of people in general and of foisting myself and all my baggage on any normal person. Difficult and abusive men have been my comfort (misnomer though that is) level for too long.

Sorry to ramble. I really, truly, deeply appreciate all your supportive comments. This has become something of a lifeline to me. Not to NC all - just to each and every one of you, you have made a difference to me today. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. xxx

p.s. sorry but I don't "do" shoes so cannot add to that debate ..... interesting though. Smile

Khalisi · 24/06/2015 09:26

Good morning, Babes,

Sorry, the first line of my post was meant to give baby credit for a FABULOUS LINE! Grin

baby my darling. Just took a moment and caught up properly and your post to Lobster,... I cannot add anything. You are such an inspiration. I wish I was eloquent and could say something to express the warm and woozy feeling I have in my heart for you...

Lobster Good luck today, babes. No choice but to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and keep going. You cannot change yesterday. And that disappointment in your dd, I know it is gutting. Flowers

beonit darling. You feel like going AF with me today? It will be fun. We'll go for a 10k run up the mountains, have lovely hot showers, do our hair, and then have a delicious dinner of pasta with my famous marinara and sausages. How's that?

spanna love the nail polish! Grin and the dog. Envy

isinde Blush I know it is politically incorrect to say this but man, I would have loved to have tea with Imelda Marcos, in her closet! Grin

venus I promise though I have some hair on my feet (didn't have time to do them last weekend), I do.not. have a hairy arse. Cross my heart, hope to die, poke my fingers in my eye! Haven't posted cause I haven't been home. Will post a pic of my current favourites, promise.
wow. Ok. But if we're going to die chronologically, I expect you to live to be 150. Just so you know. There.

Have to run!

XXX

PS. Hey sweet, hope, obrigada Fox, ma, Popcorn, Ruby, Trooper! And all lurking Babes
Flowers

lookingforhope · 24/06/2015 10:17

Wow, have so much I want to say to you all but on train to a meeting atm (nothing good) so it will have to wait till I can reply to you all tomorrow.

However to add to shoe debate, I have about 50 pairs of ankle boots, trainers and sandals and one lone pair of grown up heels for formal wear that I can't walk in. However for the past 4 years I have mostly worn these. Almost every day. For every and any occasion from work to gardening to nights out. Sorry Khalisi, have I let you down? They are just soooo comfy.... Confused

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dementedma · 24/06/2015 10:28

beonit don't beat yourself up. just keep at it..
love all the support - and shoes - on here.

Lovely Boss in meeting with accountant so we are all sitting in the office pretending to work and not really knowing what to do with ourselves.
DS has sore back so went to school in tears today. I'm not totally heartless and he genuinely does have a back problem which he is having physio for, but he has missed way too much school already and it seems to ease off when he has a day off playing on his x-box!
Then Dd phoned with chest pains again - she is at work so have told her to not hesitate to call paramedic if the heartbeat starts going wonky.
don't know what to worry about first...

Khalisi · 24/06/2015 11:23

Oh Hope sweetheart, you can never disappoint me!
Crosses fingers behind the back and shamefully covers the blushing face by pretending to have something in the eye! Wink
I am now really intimidated to post tonight! Grin

x-posted earlier, Lobster, Mhmmm. Do you call him 'a friend' because you are old fashioned or are you too shy to call him a FWB?
You know, babes... You have a lot on your plate. If you would ever get married (again?), you want DD 100% ok with it. Our children love us (regardless of how much we disappoint them and want us to be happy and would sometimes go along with things they are against just because they don't want to hurt us.
But maybe he can just be there for your for the time being until at least you are in therapy. When you have a clear diagnosis/prognosis and know what you are dealing with, you can accommodate other things.
As far as feeling happy, all I know when I am I know. It sounds stupid but right in the middle of something mundane I'd have a ha ha moment when I think, yes, this is exactly how I want the rest of my life to be. This is for me always on the basis of being sober, solvent and healthy. The presence or absence of romantic love plays no role.
Although it is lovely to have someone, of course.
Whatever you do, you have my support, babes.
Big hug,
K.

guggenheim · 24/06/2015 13:06

Hey lovely mad babes

What a lot of wonderful posts- much strength to be gained from all of them. I want my superpower to be the ability to switch off that horrid little voice,which tells amazing,intelligent women that they 'can't do things' or they' don't look right' or "i'm not good enough' - bollocks to that!

I think that everyone here has fallen on their bums a few times bloody loads in my case and it really is a case of getting up and carrying on,with the help of the bus of course. Sometimes you have to stop counting days and look at overall patterns:maybe you were sober for 4 nights this week,whereas this time last year you were blotto every night.

lobster That was a massively unhelpful thing which the team told you.Sometimes professionals are not very good at their jobs,irrespective of their titles and qualifications- I wonder if you could look elsewhere? The professionals I've come into contact with (ds and sn) have been a mixed bunch so I don't take anything as being a fact.

That was nice news about your proposal- good luck and take it slowly,lovely.

beonit · 24/06/2015 13:36

Thanks for the encouragement. I really do feel something has to give. I can't carry on like this, so yes, Khalisi your plan for today sounds wonderful (though I'd rather walk the 10k in the mountains if that's OK with you).

Lobster - I'm glad you have a good friend supporting you and I'm sure you're right not to make any rash decisions at the moment.

aliasjoey · 24/06/2015 15:47

looking what sandals are those and why are they comfy? Are they special? They look nice!

On Monday I decided to go AF until my birthday (about a month)

having realised I can't do short-term goals (only drink at the weekend? So that's Friday? Or Sunday? Or Friday and Sunday?)

Or long term goals (drink never again - are you kidding?!) but I can do medium ones eg. In October I aimed for Christmas and succeeded. So plan to have another go, but only 2 days in and already wavering...

beachestoexplore · 24/06/2015 17:46

Keep going joey, those first 3 days are always the hardest (at least they are for me). I know what you mean about medium term goals too, I am day 10 with a view to the end of July at least. Forever definitely makes me waiver but a set time is ok for now.

Although I am a bit late to the foot fetish party, will include today's footwear - they are one very comfortable flip flop from a total collection of about 12, (including slippers and wellies) so no Imelda Marcos here.

Love to all you wonderful babes xxx

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babyjane1 · 24/06/2015 19:23

Hi babes,

Firstly thank you all for your amazing feedback to my slightly over emotive post. I guess I revealed so much of my own feelings and mistakes was to hopefully connect with you, our lovely lobster before you fell down the hole of despair I've found myself in too many times, God I'd do anything to protect someone I care about from that.

lobster I was so glad to see your post this morning, I had an uneasy night hoping you wouldn't do what I do and go on a frustrated binge. Turns out I was right, you are brave and strong cos you stood up to your demons and won, that makes me so proud of you.

I used to think I was a freak with all my feelings and emotions but finding this wonderful bus has shown me that people like us are, well a bit special. We feel things deeper than "normal" folk, we're sensitive and kind and when it's not reciprocated we hurt terribly and bleed emotionally. That's why we drink, that's why we all found each other because we were all a bit lost on this lonely planet.

So freak or unique, we're amazing, and we're a team and the last few days have shown that no matter what we stick together and keep on keeping on!!!

Love to all xxx

dementedma · 24/06/2015 20:58

Ended up taking DD to A and E for ECG. She's OK, thankfully

babyjane1 · 24/06/2015 21:13

Oh ma what a worry for you. Have they got to the bottom of the cause of these episodes?? So glad she's ok and I hope your ok too, you've so much on your plate, wish we could help.... Big hugs xxxx

dementedma · 24/06/2015 22:05

She will be monitored soon with a portable monitor for a few days to try and find out the trigger. Dh is going over tomorrow to see her and take her food shopping so she can stock up. She doesn't get paid until end of July so we are having to fund her until then. Stress!

lookingforhope · 24/06/2015 22:59

Evening. Need an early night tonight cos got to get up at 5.30 to get dd ready for a school trip, but am too cross and tense to sleep just now, so quick rant... I am only 2 hours back from trip to London in which time I've researched holidays, packed for dd, made her a lunch for tomorrow, indulged her by doing facepacks and nails and sorted out both kids with clean ironed clothes and cash for tomorrow (ds is on a college trip). Arrived home to sink full of washing up and overflowing bins. WB rocked up at 9.00pm. Ten minutes ago I went to make a brew and said not to bother saying goodnight to dd as she is asleep now (though she was awake at 9 when he came in) and got a self pitying rant about how he was 'working' till 9.00pm. (I always maintain, if you don't get paid for it, it ain't work Angry ) God, I hate him. I have spent stressful day taking on new work project to keep me busy while waiting for redundancy, met with line manager to talk about the end of my career, am stressing all the time about whether I can leave in time to take a lucrative freelance contract I've been offered and all that arse can do is ... well, f* all as far as I can see.

Anyway, rant over.

Ma hope dd is OK and that the doctors get to the bottom of things. Hope ds's back is better too. How stressful for you on top of all that is going on at work. Big hugs Flowers How did the accountant meeting go? Any joy?

Baby I love your posts. I just want to wrap you up in a big, big hug for being so wonderful Flowers. I also admire your glam shoes, although I would not be able to cross a room in those heels let alone venture outside. You are a heroine!

Lobster how are you this evening lovely lady? Your experience of the health professionals sounds so frustrating. I don't believe your needs are so complex they can't deal with you. It just sounds like typical public sector nonsense, nobody wants to take responsibility for anything, there are always referrals. Hope you get some joy soon.

A proposal is very intriguing?? How lovely (even if it's not what you want at the moment, it is nice that your friend cares about you so much.) It's also nice that you can discuss things so openly with your daughter.
You seem like you have a lovely relationship with dd, she sounds a mature and understanding young woman. It is good to see your kids grow up into decent people isn't it? I do worry with my ds that he is mature and understanding because he has to be, I sometimes think if I had a happy marriage and had provided a more functional family for him to grow up in he might be more of a typical teenage monster and perhaps he has grown up too soon because of the discord at home. But then I remind myself that I do try hard, or I did once, and it's not my fault WB is such a selfish, entitled twunt. Perhaps my lovely kids are my gift to make up for my awful husband Grin. And maybe ds would just have been lovely anyway, some people are. (he is still lazy and cheeky though. and untidy Grin )

Joey my shoes are FitFlops. They are the comfiest thing ever, like walking on squishy cushions. I have 6 pairs of FitFlop sandals alone (I bought a pink pair online only this week for my holiday – they are called Superjellys for the beach) and also 3 pairs of their Ugg style boots. But I do mostly just wear the plain silver ones. I know, I know Khalisi sorry again. I need more feet then I can wear more pairs at once Grin

Khalisi I loved your line about happiness being based on being sober, solvent and healthy. I’ll go for that. With the absence of romantic love being irrelevant. I keep thinking that I will end up alone, but you know, I’m alone now. I don’t have a marriage. We are just two individuals who don’t like each other sharing a house and two kids. I don’t envision meeting anyone else at my age, but maybe I need to learn to be alone. It’s just working out how to get to that point without hurting the dcs….

Beonit how are you tonight? I’m glad to see you back on the thread. I do understand the anxiety, I have it too, but drinking just makes it worse, it’s a vicious circle. You do have it in you to stop the wine witch. We all try and fail and try and fail and then one day, a breakthrough. We have so many success stories on this bus to inspire us. Don’t beat yourself up about drinking, guilt doesn’t help. Just try each day and note how you feel and post on here if it helps… (and if you want a distraction photograph your feet and add to the shoe comparison site Grin )

Popcorn, Spanna, Beaches, Isinde, Guggs, Smallfox and anyone else who is around at the moment – wishing you all a wonderful night’s sleep, love to all

I had a major panic about a work issue yesterday (it’s now a medium panic, but still there) and combined with WB’s utter indifference combined with general uselessness and bad temper, I succumbed to a glass of wine on the train home as a ‘treat’ (I know 200 empty calories in an overpriced mini bottle from M&S is not really a ‘treat’, but bought it in a childish defiant way). So my AF run stalled at Day 23, but I’m not too despondent as back on it tomorrow. That app I use just registered a yellow square to ruin my month of virtuous green. But May was full of red squares in the last week so it’s better than it was. Onward and upwards and all that...

Right, must make another Brew and then sleep now if I’m to be up in time to take dd tomorrow. Posting on here has made me feel tons better, just getting it off my chest really – this bus is better than a bottle of wine, no contest! Love ya Brave Babes x

AmIveryunreasonable · 25/06/2015 11:05

Day 2 I made it to day 2

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beachestoexplore · 25/06/2015 13:16

Hello babes Smile

ami welcome to day 2! Waking up is a joy when the brain scrambles around and registers no groggy, remorseful hangover. It s my favourite part of not drinking. Smile

isinde hope you are getting lots of work done and not just singing away in your attic office! Grin

Spanna hello pumpkin, how are you doing? Are you managing to take you lovely hound down to the beach for early walks? I was wondering how the wedding arrangements were coming along, hopefully your friend has relaxed about your not drinking, I am sure the day will run far more smoothly if you aren't worrying about the WW. Hope you are having a good day flower x

Ma you are dealing with such a lot of stresses, I really hope your dd is feeling better today. Sending Cake and Flowers for you x

hope as always, love you long posts. Your children sound fab, credit to you (and of no credit at all to your selfish WB). Hope your medium panic work issue gets further downgraded to low/no panic today. X

baby you are such a sweet soul and have many, many inspirational words. (Not to mention knock out footwear!)

faire Flowers thinking of you x

Waves to guggs, sweet, mouse, Khalis, lobster, small, Beonit, Joey, venus and all the brave babes who I have temporarily mislaid Confused

I have a dentist appointment for a filling today, why would it need to be an hour long? It's FINE, I'm not worried...

Khalisi · 25/06/2015 13:35

Hello best of fellow passengers!

So, I know this is a bit late, but went through quite a bit of trouble (can't access email on phone) to get this to prove I'm not a hairy arsed truck driver!
These are currently my favourites!

Hope darling, you need to start looking WB straight in the face and tell him that you have no more fucks to give. He had a tough day, tough luck. Seriously babes, this man is an emotional vampire and he is sucking you dry!
Flowers

Come one, beaches! Admit you got a pedi just to show off! Grin

baby happy to hear you're better, babes.

Lobster I owe you an apology. Sorry, babes. I should have said congratulations, first of all. Many people will never get a proposal, for various reasons. You are such a great woman that even now, with all the difficulties you're facing, someone wants to spend the rest of his life with you.
Hope I'm forgiven.
Flowers

Sorry not to NC many of you. Have to get back to work. Countdown!

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beachestoexplore · 25/06/2015 13:56

Grin Khailis absolutely! And it wasn't easy to find someone willing to book in a hairy arsed trucker at short notice for a wax and polish!

Impressive heels by the way, very pretty Smile

HandsThatDoDishes · 25/06/2015 15:23

Hi ladies. Day 25 here. It's MIL's 80th birthday party at the weekend and my plan is to have a couple of glasses of sparkling and that's it. Then I'll go AF again until our holiday at the end of July (hopefully).

We've got visitors coming to stay next week so I've been manically cleaning. I'm not known for being a domestic goddess and my kids have joked that I'm turning into Monica from Friends! Whilst clearing out the kitchen cupboards I found several empty boxes of wine (the foil bags had been squeezed dry obviously), an empty bottle of gin and an empty bottle of vodka. I can't even remember putting them there, I felt so ashamed.

Have a fab Thursday babes xx

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beonit · 25/06/2015 17:07

Things not going according to plan. However I do at least feel I know you well enough to share my shoes with you. I have basically lived in these for at least two years (can you tell?)

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beonit · 25/06/2015 17:10

PS isinde I love recycling day! (Except for the time when a well-meaning fellow parent on the walk to school asked me if we had enjoyed the party. Blank look from me, followed by sinking realisation that she had clocked our recycling bags waiting for collection...)

venusandmars · 25/06/2015 18:12

hands I have been spring cleaning my office (well relocating it to another room) and I found behind an empty bottle and 3 empty G&T cans - you know, those little top up ones Blush

For your mil's party.... my best strategy is to make sure that your first drink is non-alcoholic - even if people are pressing champagne into your hand. Say that you've got a slight headache, or that you are really thirsty, or you have dry throat - anything... If it is unavoidable (a group toast to the birthday lady) take ONE sip for the toast. One sip only. And revert to your big glass of non alcoholic drink. During that day always, always, always have a large topped up glass of something non-alcoholic.

Then for your second drink, also ask for something non-alcoholic. Say "oh that was so refreshing, I think I'll have another" or "I'm still feeling a bit headachy, I'll join you in the wine in a moment.."

What I have found (from many, many years of experience) is that if I start with a glass of wine / fizz / cocktail then my resolve vanishes instantly. There was a famous lady alcoholic who said "I know where to draw the line, it is just that after my first drink, the line seems to disappear." [ I know that I have probably badly paraphrased and misquoted, (and split an infinitive) and some other babe will remember the person and the quote, but you get the drift.. ] By contrast I have found that if I have a non alcoholic drink first it sort of reinforces in my psyche that I'm NOT drinking. And then by the time you have had 2 big glasses of lime and soda or orange juice or 2 big mugs of tea you will be fully hydrated and so not at all inclined to guzzle your champagne / wine and more able to take occasional sips.

You might also find that by that stage several people around you will have had 2 or 3 or 4 glasses of wine. They might have gone beyond the bright giddy phase and have become a bit annoying - maybe argumentative, maybe repetitive, maybe laughing hilariously at their own jokes. You might look at them and think "Thank god that isn't me today."

Vintage advice - better than vintage wine Grin

dementedma · 25/06/2015 18:34

hope I posted to you on here this morning but it seems to have disappeared! Bugger.
FB in 2020.
Hang in there......